What Was This?

[LP11725]

OK, was in a lucid dream, at some party, knowing I was lucid, without any RC's so I was telling ppl this was a dream to make me more lucid...ended up flying, but couldnt get where I wanted to form in front of me...I ended up waking up....but in SP.....this is where it got weird...I knew I was in SP before opening my eyes, so when I did, MR shadowman was all around me as usual....then I told me self to calm down, its fine, enjoy it...so I said let me ttry to have an OBE...so slowly sat up and got out of bed....felt a tingle in my hands and stuff.....I could walk thru the walls....BUT...I couldnt not see myself...I was not there....and things were different, the dog cage was in my room, and so were the dogs...it was raining outside and mom was sleeping....I then said ok, wake up and I did...now...I woke up....on my stumic how i went to sleep...but when i was sitting up in SP i was on my back???? I woke up, it was NOT raining, the dog and dog cage was downstaird and mom was not sleeping.....what was this? A dream that I had SP and thought I had an OBE? or was this a semi OBE? Again, I did not see myself but I was in SP at one point and could of sworn I was being held down and got up while in SP...when I thought I was out of my body..shadowman was gone a few seconds after....i went thru the walll, and felt the rain....but I didnt see myself...so someone please explain...was that even SP? or a dream I was having SP? or was this a start?

[NewVamp]

Definitely sounds like you had a false awakening, and in the false awakening you were in SP and had an OBE. I'm not expert in OBEs, but I had definitely expirienced my fair share of SP, and I think that after the OBE, you would have woken up in the same position you were in during your SP. So I think that it was all a dream, because if it had been real, your body would have been paralysed and not able to turn itself over.

[LP11725]

Definitely sounds like you had a false awakening, and in the false awakening you were in SP and had an OBE. I'm not expert in OBEs, but I had definitely expirienced my fair share of SP, and I think that after the OBE, you would have woken up in the same position you were in during your SP. So I think that it was all a dream, because if it had been real, your body would have been paralysed and not able to turn itself over. I know man, it was very weird...duno about false awakening though because I was in SP for a fact, I had to be...i felt the terror of the shadow man...when sitting up trying to induce a OBE...i felt retrained, but still moving like I was coming out of my body...but I was like too heavy to be in OBE...because when I got up..i was walking..not floating....and I didnt see myself...and things were out of place, and it was raining, and when I woke up for real....it wasnt raining and everyting was back in the right place...I really dont know what happened and I really wana know..its buggin me...lol

[spaceexplorer]

It sounds, like you had a lucid dream, the visuals faded, you continued to dream of waking up in sleep paralysis(false awakening), then the visuals kicked back in and the dream continued only this time with the theme of OBE as you'd intended. Im not sure why you are "certain it was sleep paralysis", because surely being a lucid dreamer, you should by now realise that the mind can recreate pretty much an experience you can imagine. SP included. There's no way to know for sure, unless you had made a video of you sleeping and seen if you'd changed positions. But the fact you awoke finally in the same position you'd fallen asleep in, pretty strongly suggests you never really woke up when you thought you were having a SP experience. So, the explanation of what happened to you seems to be: So you dreamt, continued to dream, dreamt some more, then woke up. Or: Party dream scene. SP dream scene. OBE dream scene. Woke up.

[LP11725]

It sounds, like you had a lucid dream, the visuals faded, you continued to dream of waking up in sleep paralysis(false awakening), then the visuals kicked back in and the dream continued only this time with the theme of OBE as you'd intended. Im not sure why you are "certain it was sleep paralysis", because surely being a lucid dreamer, you should by now realise that the mind can recreate pretty much an experience you can imagine. SP included. There's no way to know for sure, unless you had made a video of you sleeping and seen if you'd changed positions. But the fact you awoke finally in the same position you'd fallen asleep in, pretty strongly suggests you never really woke up when you thought you were having a SP experience. So, the explanation of what happened to you seems to be: So you dreamt, continued to dream, dreamt some more, then woke up. Or: Party dream scene. SP dream scene. OBE dream scene. Woke up. Damn, lol, I really wanted an OBE...i suck at regular projection because I cant be still for meditation, I always move..so SP is my only chance of an OBE...I dont even know if I was doing it right even if it was a dream, I just said its only shadowman, said in my head " hey buddy whats up " and just tried to get up...felt like I was coming out though...I felt like I was seperating somewhat...i duno ...after not seeing myself I knew it wasnt so i got sad, still explored though since I was dreaming I was awake..I guess better luck next time. ALSO...this is weird when ever I dream, and want to walk thru doors or walls, I just dont go through, I like have to push thru, and i can feel myself going thru it.....when I had the false awakening, and went thru the door, It wasnt the same...I was more like air...right thru with no effort...weird

[Xetrov]

ALSO...this is weird when ever I dream, and want to walk thru doors or walls, I just dont go through, I like have to push thru, and i can feel myself going thru it.....when I had the false awakening, and went thru the door, It wasnt the same...I was more like air...right thru with no effort...weird It's not weird, I do this all the time in my ludics. It's a matter of believing and knowing you can do it. It's just a dream after all, anything is possible . I agree btw with Space's explanation of your experience.

[Kordan]

It's not weird, I do this all the time in my ludics. It's a matter of believing and knowing you can do it. It's just a dream after all, anything is possible . I agree btw with Space's explanation of your experience. Dido, I think that you probably just had a cool dream where you could walk through walls and stuff (something I'm working on), and since you beleived you were having an OBE, you thought that you'd be able to go through walls differently. It's all in your head! The mind can recreate virtually any experience that it wants, including the sensations, emotions and setting involved...it's pretty amazing really.

[LP11725]

Dido, I think that you probably just had a cool dream where you could walk through walls and stuff (something I'm working on), and since you beleived you were having an OBE, you thought that you'd be able to go through walls differently. It's all in your head! The mind can recreate virtually any experience that it wants, including the sensations, emotions and setting involved...it's pretty amazing really. Hey Kordan, If you are interested in on learning on to walk thru walls and stuff, heres a tip...well not really a good tip but I mean I walk thru stuff all the time, it helps get away real quick, or save time getting in to a building, or like going into a locked room or something, and just overall fun. I dont know how I learned how to do, if theres anything to learn, I mean flying is like a learned thing, Ive read the first time u fly, u can barly hover, and u have to learn, whuch happend for me way back in the day when I first tried flying, all I could do is hover, now I can sore depending on my lucdity level, anyway when I feel like going thru a door or a wall, sometimes, or most of the time theres someone there when i do it for the first time in that specific dream, and I know its a brick wall or a hard wood door, so I touch it to confirm its hard and actually there, and its weird, when I tell myself I am going to go thru this , and push it on, its like my body part im pushing thru it going thru but its not like going thru like air, its feels like a thick liquid or something, you know like on Mario 64 when you jumped thru the painting and it had that jello effect, something like that. I mean its not really a tip but thats what usally do, I know its hard, and I tell myself im going thru, and I get thru very easily, and other people cant unless im touching and passing the ability to them for a few seconds or something. Give it a shot..its fun

[Kordan]

Hey thanks LP! I'll try this next time I'm lucid!

[Baron Samedi]

For some reason, it's much easier for me to walk through walls in AP than a LD, but I did it last night. Well, actually it was more of teleporting.