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      Quote Originally Posted by Point View Post
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      Irie; let's do this.
      OK!

      First you'll need to find someone who can do shared dreaming with you (since I can't do shared dreaming). If you ask for volunteers on the Beyond Dreaming forum that shouldn't be a problem. If you get many volunteers then we can do the experiment with several pairs of dreamers simultaneously.

      And here is the proposed experiment, an adapted version of Mr. Raymond Edward Powell's test for ESP:

      Preparation:
      -The two dreamers should agree on a specific time at night at which to meet in dreams (So they both induce a WILD at the same time. (Also be sure to take timezones into account.) )
      -Before the actual experiment the two dreamers should meet in their dreams at least once to insure that they can do so. If for any reason the pair can not seem to meet, they could still try with different partners. We need at least one pair of people capable of meeting each other in their dreams in this manner to proceed with the experiment.
      -We need a list of words to communicate. I would suggest:{apple,banana,book,dice,doll,stick,stone,s poon,flower,watch} If you feel it needs to be changed for any reason (if perhaps one of the items is hard to summon, if two items are too similar, or if you feel the list is too short), we can change it (We can do a custom list for every pair taking part in the experiment). I also suggest that one dreamer "gives" the item from the list to the other, though if they find it easier the pair can agree to communicate the word verbally instead.

      Once we have a pair ready to go I will start a new thread in the Research forum.

      Procedure:
      -The first dreamer, called "the transmitter", will choose a random word from the list (random by virtue of dice rolls or a random number generator). He will write that word down and PM it to me.
      -That night both dreamers will perform WILD at the agreed time and attempt to meet in a shared dream. The transmitter will attempt to communicate the word in the agreed manner to the second dreamer, the "receiver".
      -After the dream the second dreamer will write down the word communicated to him. He will PM me the word. If the two dreamers failed to meet that night, or if the receiver is too unsure of the received word, he can PM me simply saying "no luck" instead of the word.
      -The attempt is considered a SUCCESS if the two words match. The attempt is considered a FAILURE if the two words don't match. If the receiver reports "no luck" then that attempt doesn't count at all (which is not a failure) since there hasn't been a proper shared dream.
      -I will update the experiment thread with the day's results: the pairs of words received from all pairs of dreamers and what the results mean statistically.
      -Attempts will continue by the same pattern until we decide that we have sufficient data. I suggest five attempts should suffice.

      Note that scientists would approve of the results of such an experiment with only minor modifications to the protocol which would prevent cheating:
      1.) They would make sure that the word order hasn't been agreed on in advance: They would bring their own dice.
      2.) They would make sure that the word isn't communicated to the receiver through any means other that dreams: You would have no access to the Internet or a cellphone during the attempts.
      3.) The entire experiment would be video recorded.

      I think that's all.
      Now we should move all further discussion on this into a recruitment topic in Beyond Dreaming, or otherwise conduct it via PM.
      I'll be the first to volunteer; I'll start off by immediatly PMing Point and see if we also have the non-partisan middle-man. With Only one more volunteer we will be ready to start!
      Last edited by neville; 12-03-2009 at 04:18 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Point View Post
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      See; you will not buy spiritual compliance, so regardless of what you offer, the skeptics, ready by nature to disregard all evidences. Listen; they supply the conditions, how is that truth?
      Well, if you make a specific claim which can be tested, then a proper test will reveal the truth. If you turned out to be right then the test would give us objective evidence of the existence of the paranormal, prove current science wrong and let us advance our knowledge of the nature of the universe.
      I don't actually believe shared dreaming to be possible, but I do believe in objective experiments. I have no qualms playing middle-man for the test.

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      :O I made a thread like this yesterday and din't even know about this one. Would you like to merge??
      Last edited by Jesus of Suburbia; 12-06-2009 at 10:03 PM.

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      Ehm... which thread? I can't seem to find it under your posts...

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      You have to ask an admin for accessd to Deep Dreaming to get to it. I posted it there to attract believers insted of skeptics.

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      Then I can't see why not (merge). This here thread can't take off with only one volunteer anyway. Could I have a look at your version of the experiment, though?

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