Thread: Weird creatures

yes what do you mean by 'energy residues' ?

well, we all have energy that surrounds us. When you're mad, you're projecting a negative energy. When you're happy, you're projecting an positive energy and so on...
During the day, depending of your emotions, feeling and moods you project/evacuate that energy. My theory is that once that energy is evacuated it can't just "go away" like that. It takes time to dissovle... so it makes it "energy residues". Now, I'm talking about these "weird craetures", particullary. Because the spirits/ghost are an other story.
Anyway, I think this have happened to all of you at least once in your life... You get in your home and your parents just had a dispute. You haven't seen it but you just "feel" it somehow. That's the "energy residues" that are left (the negative energy). And the reason why I think we see it when half asleep or tired is because when a person is in a semi-conscious state, he/she is a lot more "sensitive" to that energies.

Originally Posted by GrizzlyClaws

well, we all have energy that surrounds us. When you're mad, you're projecting a negative energy. When you're happy, you're projecting an positive energy and so on...
During the day, depending of your emotions, feeling and moods you project/evacuate that energy. My theory is that once that energy is evacuated it can't just "go away" like that. It takes time to dissovle... so it makes it "energy residues". Now, I'm talking about these "weird craetures", particullary. Because the spirits/ghost are an other story.
Anyway, I think this have happened to all of you at least once in your life... You get in your home and your parents just had a dispute. You haven't seen it but you just "feel" it somehow. That's the "energy residues" that are left (the negative energy). And the reason why I think we see it when half asleep or tired is because when a person is in a semi-conscious state, he/she is a lot more "sensitive" to that energies.

Ok i see what do you mean. Yet i do not agree in this case. These things are somethings else.

Today i came across a thread about Waking Hypnagogia which just reminded me an aspect of my experience discussed here. I remembered that lately when i see these creatures there is something else happening. Through the door of my room I was looking at the wall in the other room which is usually a but lit by light from the common balcony. Anyways i was looking at the wall but it was a bit different. It was sort of colored. I mean it was the normal color but with many tiny purple spots creating the feeling the wall was actually purple. But also it felt like its presence in the 'real' was unstable. I dunno what to think about. I suppose next time i have to explore my flat just to check if im still dreaming or no. On the other hand when i wake up and see that things i usually check the electronic clock of my tv box which is working.
Will update on the next encounter

Btw just to share. Lately i have experiences which i didnt have from childhood i think. I started to give some object different shapes or even life. I mean that when im looking at smth it seems to be alive and if i try to reassure myself and go closer or try to touch it if its in my hands reach it becomes the object itself. Another not so weird thing is the glitches in 'the matrix' i dunno how to explain this. is like when im lookin at some things there are pixels which are not as they should be i mean the colors. smth like the color disassembles to it basic parts. for example i know my keyboard is black but still sometimes it is not fully. sorry i cant explain better.

Anyways the thread is for the creatures I have that feeling that im getting close to smth with these creatures or better to say with the underlying process allowing me to see them.

Wow wild experiences. From what I have seen in my OOBEs these may be past pets that lived there or with you here or perhaps some place else. They are smallish, seem to be slightly attracted to you, tend to hang around in bedrooms on the floor or on your bed, and don't respond to telepathic words. Also for some reason I only have seen them during the morning hours. If this all seems to fit the experience I'd bet they are pets. They may not always be in the shape of a recognizable animal but then neither are you without your body.

I'd try a more universal form of telepathy next time, don't use words but instead send pictures and feelings. This takes a bit of practice but picture what you want them to know and feel it. The first thing I'd send to them is love, let them know you love them and are a loving person and picture some loving moments with your pets.

Let us know how it goes, this is very interesting.

@Caden:
thanks for the post. that more plausible than the 'energy residues' theory. but still why pets? anyways i will try the telepathy tips you gave Lately i didnt have any experience as im quite tired from work and parties with lots of alcohol. But on the next time i will try and see what happens.

An idea just came to me. From my last experience where one of them was in my had and probably triggered a nice trip. May be they are drug plants? Its a funny idea but not impossible. I mean the plants have their own presence/spirit and some are with nice effects on the mind. So it possible they visited me. But its just a strange theory.

Anyway will continue trying to make contact. Will keep updated.

Cheers

Hey kenietz they are living intelligent creatures for sure, they try to talk to me all the time, they teach me meditation techniques etc, things I couldn't possibly figure out on myself. I have never seen one, but on multiple occasions they have taken over my body and for example learned me how to play a song on guitar, or how to do certain yoga poses, or many other techniques.

I did once saw 3 floating orbs when I was into seeing energy. They tried to talk to me by projecting images into my imagination, which was overlayed on reality. It was like a hologram projected in front of my eyes.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Hey kenietz they are living intelligent creatures for sure, they try to talk to me all the time, they teach me meditation techniques etc, things I couldn't possibly figure out on myself. I have never seen one, but on multiple occasions they have taken over my body and for example learned me how to play a song on guitar, or how to do certain yoga poses, or many other techniques.

I did once saw 3 floating orbs when I was into seeing energy. They tried to talk to me by projecting images into my imagination, which was overlayed on reality. It was like a hologram projected in front of my eyes.

Hi, i dunno what to make out of your post man You never seen one but they took over your body. I think you had different experience than mine. If you have read the thread you would know that i see them but the communication is not present. For now Even though i tried several times to communicate to them in different ways. Btw i never saw orbs only some weird looking creatures. Anyway, will update on the situation next time i see them.

Well I have never seen them, but like I said, they are able to project their imagination overlayed on reality, so how do you know what you see is their real form or not?

Btw you say you try to communicate with them, but in my experience the way they communicate is by making you think you are them. So when you are thinking and reasoning and believe it is your own thoughts, it is actually these creatures doing something similar as real time inception. In other words, most likely, you are already communicating with them. They pretty much play with us like puppets. I never had any direct communication, it's always in a round a bout way.

For example, one day I was thinking and making up a story with some kind of theory convinced it was of my own making, a few days later I would read that exact same story in a book. This is how they communicate, in an indirect way. You could be in a certain flow of thinking and be convinced it is your own thinking, while it is actually them trying to communicate. I know this sounds weird and hard to understand, but if you think about it logically for yourself, why would they not have tried to communicate before? Synchronicities are also a way of them communicating.


Rudolf Steiner wrote a book about this. Maybe you should check it out:

Based on knowledge attained through his highly-trained clairvoyance, Rudolf Steiner attests that folk traditions regarding nature spirits are based on spiritual reality. He describes how people possessed a natural spiritual vision in ancient times, enabling them to commune with nature spirits. These entities - which are also referred to as elemental beings - became immortalised as fairies and gnomes in myth, legend and children's stories. Today, says Steiner, the instinctive understanding that humanity once had for these elemental beings should be transformed into clear spiritual knowledge. He even asserts that humanity will not be able to reconnect with the spiritual world if it cannot develop a new relationship to the elementals. The nature spirits themselves want to be of great assistance to us, acting as `emissaries of higher divine spiritual beings'.

http://www.cygnus-books.co.uk/nature...f-steiner.html

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Well I have never seen them, but like I said, they are able to project their imagination overlayed on reality, so how do you know what you see is their real form or not?

Btw you say you try to communicate with them, but in my experience the way they communicate is by making you think you are them. So when you are thinking and reasoning and believe it is your own thoughts, it is actually these creatures doing something similar as real time inception. In other words, most likely, you are already communicating with them. They pretty much play with us like puppets. I never had any direct communication, it's always in a round a bout way.

For example, one day I was thinking and making up a story with some kind of theory convinced it was of my own making, a few days later I would read that exact same story in a book. This is how they communicate, in an indirect way. You could be in a certain flow of thinking and be convinced it is your own thinking, while it is actually them trying to communicate. I know this sounds weird and hard to understand, but if you think about it logically for yourself, why would they not have tried to communicate before? Synchronicities are also a way of them communicating.


Rudolf Steiner wrote a book about this. Maybe you should check it out:



http://www.cygnus-books.co.uk/nature...f-steiner.html

I see. This makes more sense in a way. Still how can you say something for them when you dont know them, i mean you never saw them. So you can only guess that i what i see is them But anyway. I do not have that experiences which you describe, i mean they making me think i am them. I just see them for some reason. The only thing i got from one of them was one beautiful mushroom-like trip which lasted quite some time and which i enjoyed. But i think/feel that that happened when it entered into me. May be i was too excited by the trip itself and was not able to concentrate on it so i could probably understand if it wanted to convey something to me. I hope next time to be not so excited and see what they want me to see.

As for the elementals. I have no experience or i do not know if i had. I only once had a dream described here http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/being-...ight=made+fire with a being of fire. Thats all i know by experience. Btw if you can comment smth about that dream i would appreciate it

As for ideas which you have but are not yours. This is another topic. We are connected to each other and we need not other beings to helps us in that. there is also the idea of spontaneous popping out of an idea in many places at the same time just because of the flow of information and because of our connectedness.quantity leads to quality. sorry i cant provide links for this cos i dont even remember where or even when i read about that

Rudolf Steiner claims that they are always working together with us, whether you like it or not, they are for example the intelligence behind the healing of the body. In his book he says that when we go to sleep, these creatures take over our body to heal the body. So my guess is that is what you might be seeing, but you're right, it's only a guess. But if you logically think about it, if the creatures are not nature spirits, what else could they be? There is only nature... so by the process of elimination you should also arrive at this conclusion. But apparently, you are convinced they have nothing to do with nature? What are they then? Aliens? That's the only other option.

About beings made out of smokeless fire, no idea.

Also you say you do not have the experience I describe, but I told you that they play with you like a puppet. Take the concept of muses for example, people will write a song convinced that is it their own making. People are convinced their imagination, is their own. But it isn't, it's inspired by spirits. Inspiration.. spirits.. see the link here? For example the Leyden Jar was independantly discovered by two different scientists, at the same time. Same goes for calculus, Leibniz and Newton discovered it independently from eachother, which is an indication for being inspired by spirits.

Anyway, Rudolf Steiner explains it much better in his book and describes a whole hierarchy of spirits guiding our evolution.

Btw if you are into sacred geometry, as your avatar seems to imply check out the work of Drunvalo Melchizedek, he also talks about being inspired by spirits. He practically based all his knowledge of sacred geometry on what he got from spirits. Where did you get your avatar from anyway?

My avatar i got from me I was in a special state of mind with the help of natural herb. I was sitting with my legs crossed and this is how i saw myself. Only that it was bright yellow lines on black background. The only similar thing to my avatar is unicursal hexagram which was invented by A. Crowley but that i found much much later. Its possible that his spirit was visiting me and i saw myself as he wanted me to see(that in the context of Steiner) You know people invent lot of things just to explain the unexplainable. Not that i dont believe in spirits. I do. But about the ideas specifically i think is not the spirits. Its just our connectedness and access to information.

About what are they? i dunno. btw it seems you like that guys book it touched you deep obviously. it may be good i never heard of it so i wont comment. and i never said theres nothing to do with nature. but even if there are aliens this is still nature. right? even i said in my previous posts that it could be some spirits. i just said they do not play with me the way you described it according to Steiner. we have other relationship if i may say so. whatever they are my relationship with them is evolving. my small fear at first fades away now and i some of them in color now. and i had some weird interaction as well resulted in my trip. so i will see where it will lead.

Everything interesting touches me deeply Anyway looking forward to reading more about your experiences, always very intersting to read ^^

the only time i saw stuff like that was when i was a kid.. i used to live out in the countryside. where it would get really really dark at night. i would hallucinate a lot before bed. but it was always scary stuff.. decapitated floating heads. umm.... scorpions crawling on the bed. weird things in the closet. it wasn't until my parents and everyone else firmly planted the idea in my head that "those things aren't real" that they eventually went away. although sometimes they still pop up. usually really really scary ones. "demons" watching me sleep at night, dead bodies hanging in the closet. that was when i went to sleep in mom and dad's bed!
oh yeah. my furniture used to roam around the room too. i was probably just tripping balls as a kid seeing stuff in the dark... or..... you never know...

@opalwolf: It seems to me that when you were a kid you had very opened mind and you were seeing a lot of things from our and other worlds. But you were too young. Your parents 'helped' you and helped you. I mean they blocked your mind/sensitivity but gave you some safety. But i think that now you should open again as you are grown up and could control yourself better.

yup. you are exactly right. the only thing that stuck with me that REALLY bothered me about the stuff i saw and dreamed about as a kid (i know this is off topic of the thread) is that i used to have this repeating dream as a child:
i would be riding with my dad in his old green ford pickup truck. the road would suddenly go into water... whether a bridge was out, or it just led into water. the road in the water was always paved with dead bodies. it was always terrifying. always. i still remember it now.

but yeah. totally used to "see things" as a kid. most of them were pretty darn scary! but now i'm really more open again and ready to experience it again. lucid dreaming has helped a lot.. as meditation has as well. i've achieved a lot recently and will keep pushing forward. as for the guys you see.. they seem fairly not threatening. and could possibly be hypnogogic hallucinations. i've seen little green men in spaceships after i "woke up" before. but then they flew through the wall and disappeared. but saying its a hallucination would just be rationalizing away at what could really be... something else!

im pretty sure they are hypnagogic hallucinations or something similar. this has happened to me before, i was 100% sure i was awake, not a dream, OBE, or anything like that, just woke up in the night. ive seen twin cats with red eyes (looked like mr. bigglesworth), spiderwebs and tangled peices of string flying through the air in front of my face, a blurry grim reaper, and bright blue flames engulfing my hand completely. in all cases i woke up in the middle of the night, or after losing conciousness but not in a dream yet, and i have touched most of them before but there is no feeling at all. from waking up after just falling asleep, im pretty sure its the hallucinations that happen in your head every time you fall asleep, and we are only aware of in WILD, and the abrupt awakening still leaves the imprint of the image in your mind, like if you were looking at a light then looking away. since we were not dreaming yet we dont remember seeing them at all since there was no dream. i dont want to tell you what to believe, if you think they are some astral beings they very may well be, but if you ask me, you cant feel them, you cant communicate with them, (ive never heard them but you may be able to, auditory hallucinations are common too), and they may not be real. they scarred me at first, but i never considered anything supernatural about them, if i experience it again ill make sure to pay attention to see if i think there may be more to them, but for now im unsure.

and ChaybaChayba, there are tons of things it could be besides nature spirits. by saying what else can it be? you shut out alot of possibilitys and thats the opposite of openmindedness. in fact, he described something completely different than you are, and you are trying to fit his description to match yours when it really dosent. he came asking what it was, and should get as many views as he can to make his own decision on it, but you really shouldnt tell him that yours is the only one.

@Siuol: Thanks for the post but as i already said earlier in the thread i dont see them when i wake up right after i fall asleep but much later after i wake up from a dream which has nothing to do with these things. So no hypnogogic hallucinations(HH). Usually i have the HH in the beginning of the night but then most often i cant fall asleep. I see and sometimes hear things during that period which last for about 30-60 min and my energy is quite excited. So this period is more like a meditation for me. I dont see the creatures after that period. Usually i fall asleep after that period when my energy calms down.

yea my hallucinations dont correspond to the previous dream, but they never go beyond 5 mins, so this is probably something different after all. sorry i missed the part where you said how long they went on i read alot of the thread but didnt have time for everything so more of skipped through.

went back and read all your posts on this, didnt find the one where it said the encounters lasted 30-60mins. also hypnagogic hallucinations can occur throughout the night, since we constantly move through rem and nrem during our sleep. and we also wake up after every dream, so we fall asleep after every one too so hh can happen at any point in the night, not just in the beginning, regardless of your awareness of it. hallucinations can be tactile, so the thing in your hand could have been a hallucination, i have no experience with feeling the things i see but its just as plausible as a spirit you can physically feel. aslo the high you experienced, could it have been you going back into the hypnagogic state like in a WILD and the HH made that sensation? im not you so i cant tell what it felt like but thats my best guess.

@Siuol: No problem at all. Lately i dont have any of these guys appearing. But probably cos lately im quite tired or maybe cos im prepared for them and wait for them to show up They are afraid now hahaha but possible nevertheless. Will update on the next encounter.
Btw i had a friend who was seeing things/ghosts in the night some time ago but then i didnt see so even if asked her what she was seeing i wouldnt be able to understand. Its possible she was seeing similar things.

Encounter:
Tonight i had another encounter. Unfortunately i started the night a bit drunk so it was not as useful as i wanted to be. I went to bed around 1am and woke up 4.30am from one hilarious dream, a bit weird but still hilarious. So i wake up and started to move to the kitchen in order to get some water, was very thirsty, when with my peripheral sight i caught something on my mobile telephone. It was something like a spider but not exactly it was more weird and somehow i got a bit scared(i think cos of the alcohol in my blood). The moment i saw it, it started to move and came directly above my head and stayed there for a while. I tried no communication of whatsoever just tried to get rid of the initial fear which i did. Then i started to have again sort of strange visions in my minds eye for some time.

Reflection:
The day before the encounter i was reading Castaneda's 'Tales of power'. So after the encounter it came to me what could be happening and why i was having the fears for nothing. Is it possible that my perception is changed during the dream and when i wake up im still with my changed perception at least for a while. During that period im able to perceive the world in different way. In Castaneda's theory i was able to see the nagual, the unknown. Thats why and the fear which appears from nowhere. If this is the case its nice cos im opening but i must be careful.

New encounter:
Tonight i had a new encounter. Same story. I go to bed around 1am. Have my time to relax and trying to concentrate on my pineal. After a while i fall asleep. Wake up around 3.30am. Looking around my head i see these weird mesh like moving thingy. At first got afraid but then relaxed as i realized what i see. So i extend my hand and directly touch it. It stays on my finger and i put it on the spot in between my eyes. I see another one and do the same thing with it. Then i just close my eyes and i see this something i cant describe. Similar to shroomie visions but a bit different. No patterns of the fractal or kaleidoscopic type. Just super fine and alive network of colors, fibers and micro balls. I dunno is difficult to describe. Not a dream for sure though. So i just enjoyed all that and was wandering what the heck that might be. When the effect faded away i just got up and went to drink some water. Then normal sleep with some dreams which i cant recall now, so there were not so important for me obviously. Woke up around 7am, feeling good.

Note: i remember that when i touched it and it stayed on my finger it turned into some sort of a colorful ball. it looked magical dunno what they are at all but i start to feel that im getting more connected to them some how.dunno how to describe the feeling. it felt smth like having fun with a friend.

thats all for now.

Awesome man, Imma gonna steal your pineal gland

I've encountered some sort of blue furry creature ( in a dream though) I got some telepathic message from it, it was asking for help I teleported there and I tried to fight something he protected me while fighting. Then I walked around with him and noticed that I was in some strange sort of post apocalyptic world all buildings on the floor, then I woke up, later in that afternoon I could still remember the energy signature of the creature I tried to comunicate with and I could feel it wanted to comunicate back , by recieving feelings that I'm not acustomized to imagining, you just know they're not yours that's how I figure out it's someone else that's trying to contact me.

i had a new enounter/hallucination. i woke up and looked at my wall (it has nothing on it and is white). on it was a glow in the dark calender with strange symbols. so it wasnt a spirit or anything so i know i am just having reg hallucinations. also those mesh things sound cool i wish i could see them