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    the end of my dream journal.

    by , 07-26-2010 at 05:10 AM (1219 Views)
    i'm wondering why no one comments on my dreams and then i see that this one has a rating of one star. harsh? it's my dream, i wrote it clearly and it's kind of funny. but people basically hate it??? i didn't make it up, it wasn't even lucid so i didn't control it at all. so people don't like the dream that i had. there's really nothing i could do to have made them like it, it just happened. so i'm thinking this sucks and then i realize: what the heck am i trying to get out of this anyway? keeping a dream journal on here is a waste of time. i'm still going to comment on other people's and continue to make posts about questions i have in the forum as well as comment on other people's threads but this dream journal stuff seems pointless. unless someone can tell me something i don't know about it? but i don't think so. i think that if you want to feel that other people enjoy what you dream then good luck trying to have dreams that make comprehensible and exciting stories. i'd be willing to bet that some of the more fantastical dreams on here are at least partly made up for entertainment and not dreamed at all. how else do you explain that the majority of people's dreams on here are fragmented stories that don't flow like a short story and then a small percentage are epic, well written novellas? i really don't think we should be rating them at all, it is a dream "journal" it's not like you're making up a story to impress people. you're writing down what happened in your brain last night. it would make sense to rate them if they were all short stories or something because then there would be a depth of quality of writing and story creation. and please don't say i'm being touchy. i don't have my feelings hurt. i really just noticed that i'm wasting my time on here. even if i became number one dream journal guy, is that going to help me with anything??? no it's not. maybe if my social life outside of here was really bleak, but it's not so... the rating system just kind of made me open my eyes to what i'm really doing here: i've been posting my dreams and hoping people would like them!
    after feeling slightly sad that people didn't like today's entry made me realize how ridiculous it is to care about this at all. my dream journal is a blank book next to my bed that i sometimes transfer to this site. the one next to my bed is a tool to develop my lucid dreaming skills and i now realize this one was just hoping someone would think they were cool.

    however almost all the forum posts i've made about dreaming topics or induction techniques have been very helpful in building knowledge about the subject so i love this site and will continue to make and post on threads in the forum!

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    1. PercyLucid's Avatar
      OK. Here comes your first comment:

      Dude, this is not the way you do stuff. There are tons and tons of dream out here. It's hard to even get loyal readers. I am sure I have some and for sure you have as well. I posted 238 dreams and I got around 7-8 comments. Do I feel pissed? Nope. I have many many many dream fragments, boring dreams about jobs, do I care? Well, I do not care posting them, I only care because I could have had a better dream, that is all. However, when I have an epic dream, lucid or epic lucid I am very excited about sharing it here. By the way, this is something very important for MILD...

      Read my entire journal, I am sure you will only love 10-15 dreams out of the +200 I have in there. You will get bored as hell with most of them. Do I care? Well, I know I have some readers and I hate the fact I can bore them, but well, they are dreams, they are what my mind did and it's worth enough to post them.
      You need to be more positive dude and I will point that in the classes. Instead of focusing on low rating or crappy dreams, focus on having a lucid (whatever you like) and focus on how you will feel after sharing here. You will get more reads than you imagine. A lot of people reads only lucids, for their own improvement, so they will read yours. I have an average of 1-3 readers per dream, my lucids go up to 9-10, and my epics (3) some got over 25 reads... they come from nowhere and that its a reality for all journalists.

      Well, again, I feel sorry about this and it's only you who has the final decision, but this is not the right way!!!

      Just my two cents.
    2. sleepyzac's Avatar
      oh i know, don't worry, like i said it's not a me being sad thing. i just think there shouldn't be a star system. i'm fine with no comments. that was nothing really, i just wrote that i was thinking "aw no comments." and then realized this was silly. it seems to be not very nice to rate people's dreams. like if someone posts a dream fragment that's really boring and short it will get one star which is the same as saying "your dream sucks!" but they can't help it. it was a dream and there's nothing they can do about it. like i said, if this was a place where people shared short stories it would make sense to be like "i like your story, well put together, etc." or "your story was boring." this is because the person who wrote it had control over every aspect and criticism will let them know what to do better next time or, if people hate their stories forever that maybe they should look into some other skill to practice. but telling someone that you don't like something that was involuntary is like saying "i don't like the way you breathe!" or "the way you blink is low quality!" it can't be helped or changed. even lucid dreams only have so much control. in the end i really just realized that dreaming (lucid or not) is an internal activity and so there's really no reason to do anything but record them and use them to look for dream signs and other exercises. sharing i think can be fun but not if it welcomes a system to insult or praise what you share. i didn't feel this way before the star system. with it people will passively insult each others dreams. before it, i don't think many people were leaving comments like "this dream is low on the scale of coolness.". as far as i noticed, if people left comments it was generally to say what they liked about the dream. if you were telling someone a dream in person they wouldn't be likely to be like "oooh, one star man, no good!" they will either say they like it or just vaguely feign interest because they wouldn't want to hurt your feelings. even on here, like i said, people won't post negative things about a dream, they only rate it negatively because they know it's anonymous. it's turned it into a competition type thing "who has the coolest journal? who has the most five star dreams?". when a journal really is a personal thing that's not supposed to be a creation to be cherished or condemned by others. at any rate i truly did decide that my paper journal is the most important anyway. not to mention i've only written down a few dreams on here while i filled up two paper journals so it was never that important to me anyway. i was just sharing my distaste for the star system. thanx for the concern though i agree with what you're saying, if people don't comment that's fine. i just don't want to hear that people specifically didn't like my dreams. if you don't have anything nice to say...
    3. Baron Samedi's Avatar
      I do agree with your idea of not having a rating system for dream journals.

      However this should be posted in the Meta-Forum instead.
    4. sleepyzac's Avatar
      yeah nomad at first this was just me saying my journal was over that way if anybody wondered why i don't post any more they would know. it wouldn't make much sense to post my farewell and reason for it in the meta forum. do you think i should re-word it into a little discussion piece on whether or not stars are a good thing and post it in the meta?
    5. Baron Samedi's Avatar
      yeah nomad at first this was just me saying my journal was over that way if anybody wondered why i don't post any more they would know. it wouldn't make much sense to post my farewell and reason for it in the meta forum. do you think i should re-word it into a little discussion piece on whether or not stars are a good thing and post it in the meta?

      Absolutely. Regular thread rating is good, but not for DJ's, because it doesn't make sense to tell someone anonymously their dreams suck. It's actually pretty ridiculous.
    6. sleepyzac's Avatar
      cool i'll do that then.