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      What are Dream Catchers? Some weird spider web thingy that hangs above you head at night...somebody know what they are supposed to do? How?

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      According to many Native American traditions, the intertwined "spider web" of the dream catcher with its attached beads, feathers, and such offerings is supposed to "catch" bad dreams and bad influences at night, thus protecting whomever sleeps beneath it.
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      It's a lovely Native American creation. Many native nations believed that dreams were very important for many reasons. Recalling and sharing dreams with othes was an everyday occurance that effected the lives of everyone in a community. They respected and relied on dreams regularly until that tradition was stripped from them from settlers who thought it was some kind of evil practice or some such Bs. Anyway, enough of the history lesson.

      From what I was always told a dream catcher is supposed to be hung in your bedroom window. The 'spider web' part catches and captures bad dreams so they don't get to you. It allows the good dreams to pass through and enter your room through the circular opening in the middle of the web and they trickle down the feathers to find the dreamer.

      I think there are many interpretations of how a dream catcher works. I mostly hear the version that I gave.
      I kept one in my bedroom window for a while when I was having really horrible dreams a few years ago. It 'worked' but probably because I believed it would, thus my dreams changed to accomadate my belief. Or maybe it really does work? Who knows.



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      I've heard the same type of stuff about dream catchers - they snag the bad dreams but let the good ones through.

      I've had this dream catcher hung in my bedroom (though not in a window as Vex said) since I was a kid. I've obviously had some nightmares or scary dreams in the 15 years I've had the thing, but I just think it's cute.

      It's just a little one - I wonder if size matters??


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      I've had a little on for 8 years. It's not over my bed, it's about 3 meters to the right of my bed on my bookshelf. I got it when I was little, when almost every night I would have nightmares. Of course, even with the placebo effect, the dream catcher didn't work
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      Check out --[ To catch a Dream ] in the research team.
      A good topic in regards to them!

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      Thanks for the info guys .

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      What are Dream Catchers? Some weird spider web thingy that hangs above you head at night...somebody know what they are supposed to do? How?
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      Its a misnomer. They should have said "Dream Filters".

      You see the screen blocks all of the larger grosser bad dreams and nightmares, while allowing the higher and more etheric spiritual dreams to get through. A filter.

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      Thanks for the link, Howie - I'd like to see a pic of the one you made if you still have it.

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      They don't actually work of course, dreams happen WITHIN you
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      Yeah, that always seemed wrong, I mean dreams don't come flying through the window!

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      My mums got one in her car for some reason
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      I think that they make a good car decoration, as opposed to fluffy dice

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      Quote Originally Posted by NeAvO View Post
      My mums got one in her car for some reason
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      Yeah, that&#39;s the only place I see them anymore. Hanging from vehicle mirrors. Just like anything else they&#39;ve become mass produced and sold as pretty decorations.




      And of course dreams don&#39;t come flying in through the window. A dream catcher is simply a cute trinket to trick the mind into having nice dreams. Similar to the tactic of putting a bible under your pillow to stop nightmares. Which I also tried before.. and it didn&#39;t work.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Peregrinus View Post
      According to many Native American traditions, the intertwined "spider web" of the dream catcher with its attached beads, feathers, and such offerings is supposed to "catch" bad dreams and bad influences at night, thus protecting whomever sleeps beneath it.
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      I doubt they actually work other than placebo effect, but that&#39;s still a really cute idea .

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      dream catchers are a native american superstition that supposedly "catches" all the bad dreams out of the air in its inter-twined strings, a lot like a spider web. i think the native americans believe that dreams floated all around us and entered our brain.

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      How a dream catcher could tell the difference between a good dream and a bad one? What for Native Americans was regarded as a good sign in a dream, i.e. a horrible skull of a enemy on a pole, for us now would be considered as a nightmare.
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      It&#39;s fun folklore - not to be taken too seriously.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Burns View Post
      It&#39;s fun folklore - not to be taken too seriously.
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      Nice cats. We got 7 like these. They hunt around the house, in the garden.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rav1 View Post
      It&#39;s fun folklore - not to be taken too seriously.
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      Nice cats. We got 7 like these. They hunt around the house, in the garden.
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      I&#39;ve had a dreamcatcher since I was younger, and it did work. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I&#39;m part Native.


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      this reminds me of when i lived in B.C. i had a few native american friends and a girlfirend. we used to make dreamcatchers and sell them at Save on Foods for 5 bucks. (save on foods is the No Frills of the west in canada).

      i used to have one in my window. neverreally worked lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tiddlywink101 View Post
      They don&#39;t actually work of course, dreams happen WITHIN you
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      Belief is "within you." So if you believe they work then they can. granted I think it is a placebo effect but to many cultures it is a belief.

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      Thanks for the link, Howie - I&#39;d like to see a pic of the one you made if you still have it.[/b]

      I thought I posted it around here somewhere. I can&#39;t find it.
      Oh well. It is kind of cheesy anyway.


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      Quote Originally Posted by CoLd View Post
      I&#39;ve had a dreamcatcher since I was younger, and it did work. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I&#39;m part Native.
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      Maybe that&#39;s why it worked for me too... I be one of thee.



      But seriously, there is waaaay more to it than just dreams &#39;floating&#39; around to be &#39;caught&#39;. That&#39;s just the very tip of the iceberg, the simplest way to explain how they are supposed to &#39;work&#39;.

      From what&#39; I&#39;ve learned natives believed the dream world was as &#39;real&#39; as &#39;reality&#39;. I&#39;m not going to even attempt to explain, I&#39;m no expert. If you really want to know you&#39;d have to research it. And most people don&#39;t care to know the deeper, real meaning behind symbols. I, myself, am lazy by nature and don&#39;t care enough to really delve into it. But I have learned, from studying a few books on native beliefs and dreams, a wee bit more about this particular little trinket and the way it allegedly came about.

      Do they work? Like everyone else said, probably depends on your belief in them.



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      Quote Originally Posted by PenguinLord13 View Post
      I doubt they actually work other than placebo effect, but that&#39;s still a really cute idea .
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      As a psychology and philosophy student, I must express that I believe it is simply a placebo effect. From an animistic perspective, I might believe that you place protective energy within it but... that seems implausible.

      The power of belief and the mind is awesome - the placebo effect is the human spirit that has been graced with only a blink of our existance.

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