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      Heh, hope you don't have a headache in the morning

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      No I hadn't headache even though it was first time I had hard to be on balance etc. But also I had no recall after it (as I'd all other previous times with alcohol). Wasn't me who wanted drink, it was my dad and his girl who gave me and I was just 'why not'.
      Well, the past few days have been better, as it been 2 recalls atleast.

      Been reading around on forums and it motivates me more. Somehow I can't understand myself why I don't motivate myself fully to this.
      In the juice thread today I read about it may be working cus of BELIEVING it will. And what I read in threads of new people learning lucid dreaming got their LD's after just days/weeks, makes me think that if I do really believe I will be lucid tonight and if I do believe that I will recall my dreams (instead of think that I wont cus previous time been failing). Then I guess I will do succeed.

      Now time is 01:35am and got first alarm at 07:40 and second at 08:00 when I do have to get up.
      Then I'll be sleeping alone 2 nights so will perform WBTB.

      Now when I go bed, I will do MILD and have goals ready when I become lucid.

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      It is indeed, VERY important, that you believe. Not just believe, you have to KNOW. Like it's a done deal. And being excited about it is also great. Good luck

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      Okay
      Well well well, my recall been abit better since a month back or so. Seems like the recall just got worse when I was writing down my dreams, or maybe it was just bad time.
      Tonight I'd 3 dream recalls.. well, 2 recalls in middle of the night, I HAD A THOUGHT to write them down on my phone, but I was just "whateva, I will remember at morning". Which I ofc did not.
      So at morning I atleast had another dream that I recalled. Total 8h sleep.

      This ADA/SAT technique, goes kind good. I remember today, not yesterday though. But I did remember it a few days anyway.
      Ah now I remember, gonna put on an application on my phone that will remind me every like, 2 hour maybe? where I'll stop everything and notice and be aware of everything around and make reality check. And then try make the value smaller each day, until I will be aware all the time.

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      Sounds like a plan. I suspect that more you practice, more you will get used to doing it and stop forgetting. Happy dreams

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      HA! I haven't been writing here for over a month.
      Dream recall has become better during the time. Haven't kept really much dream journal lately, sometimes scribbed down on paper when I'm sleeping at home.
      The ADA/SAT I success to remember for like 4-5 days straight, then I forgot it for maybe 1-3 days until remember it in a 2-3 days in row again.

      Now I remember it again, and will continue do for as long as possible. I will write it down on a paper as a goal (read/heard that it improves the motivation or whatever when writing down physically).

      Serious bussiness now.
      Here's a list I think would make my dreaming life more fun

      1. Learn to use ADA/SAT everyday (when I bike or other transports, I use to do remember/do them, maybe if I keep up with that now).
      2. Learn to make reality check when waking up from bed (to prevent FA, I'd one last time for about 1-2 week ago, if I'd learned me this earlier that could made me lucid).
      3. Maybe keep up for a dream journal after all. (and in another positive way, I may can use the dream journal, to write a book in the future, well, maybe just copy + paste all the dreams together. could be fun, and great for finding signs as well).

      In 1 month from today (20th August here, means until 20th September), I WILL
      - Learn/remember to make reality check when I wake up
      - Learn/remember to writing down my dreams daily in an dream journal book/paper next to my bed (and even though no dream, I'll write "I did not recall any dream", or something similar).
      - Learn/remember to stop everything I'm up to and just examine the reality around me and make reality check. and during transportation (like biking), I will notice all my senses, the wind through my face, my feelings all around body as I move etc).


      Hmm, I thought of reward myself if I complete (or maybe punish myself if I fail) these goals.
      But I got no idea about that yet, the reward itself should be more lucid dreams anyways. But had idea it could be even more motivated if I'd something else.

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      And maybe if I report here every day (if possible), I may remember it more too.

      This morning I'd been sleeping for about 6,5 hours and I forgot to write something down, and I also forgot about the reality check.
      Well, I remember about it when I'd been awake for around 1 hour, when I was on my way home from the shortest school day ever (biked 20km for some info, blah).

      Tomorrow no lessons so I'll be home (will only need to go monday, wednesday and friday I think). So this upcoming night I will be sleeping longer, maybe 8-10 hours sleep. That may make it easier to recall dream + to remember writing down in journal and do reality check.

      IF I learn remember to write down instantly into deam journal, I might could make it easier to remember making a reality check if I write on the dream journal to make a reality check as well.

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      Hi,

      yes, I have problem with remembering all that stuff also. But it helps, if you write yourself a reminder. Place it on the wall or nightstand, or any other place you look at first thing in the mornig. And some reminder on a bathroom mirror, school bag, pen holder, or other things. And keep your DJ with you. You should have a nice notebook as a DJ - put some LD related pictures on the cover, write your LD goals on it.

      Rewarding yourself is a good thing, but don't punish yourself. You may start hating LDing or RCs, because you know punishment is comming if you forget. Keep at it

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      OK
      I slept about 10-11 hours total today. Got 2 dream recalls, where oe of them was about my gerbils again (one of my gerbil died like 2-3 week ago and the past 3 nights I've dreamed about gerbils, no idea why). Will make RC today when I visit my gerbil I got left, and before I go sleep I will tell myself (MILD) that I have to check if I'm awake if any gerbil appear.

      I also remember to make reality check on the very mornng. Alarm went of about 5 hours of sleep, made a reality check instantly + wrote down a dream fast on the computer (the gerbil one).
      Then went to bed again, slept for about 5 hours and then up again with a new dream recall, wrote it down and made reality check (this one though I almost forgot the reality check).

      Then an hour later I was going to store and during the walk I remember the ADA so I tried focus more. And well now I'll do it too as I remember.

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      Hey, that's very good progress on the remembering front. Good job.

      And sorry to hear about your gerbil. You can definitelly use it as RC, since it's fresh in your mind.

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      Today no recall. Slept from about 01:30 - 06:30
      Remembered to make reality check at morning. Told me to do that + to wake up and not continue sleep (as it happened before sometime), before I went to bed.
      Did not remember to write down anything in dream journal (I have to choose some notebook and pen and put it next to bed or somewhere, haven't done that yet really). But wondering it might be better to write on the computer, as I did the previous days I wrote down dreams. Takes me alot faster to write it down, only downside is that it take my computer about 1 min to start up, and during that time I might lost some. But if I start it and during the time I start write down some short key words in the physical dream journal.

      Did not remember to do any ADA/SAT things. Remember it only now when I write here. So I will keep it in mind and do when I'm on my way back home from school.

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      Ah snap, I forgot yesterday to make that SAT on my way home. But I remember to do it about 2 times yesterday total.

      Today morning, I forgot recall and dream journal, just totally forgot about it all. No dream recall this morning too.

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      Hrm, can you write yourself some reminders to do things? At least untill it becomes a habit.

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      Yea maybe. I haven't been remembering something the past week >< it's because I kinda moved in to my GF and somehow I haven't remind myself to complete this.
      Had nice dreams the past days though.

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      Well, try to remind yourself somehow, it's gonna be hard DILDing without practice. Good luck

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      So, I lost it again..

      But, about a week ago I decided to pick it up again and make it a new year resolution, once again.
      Had a lucid dream (DILD), 30th December 2012 (for 2 days ago).
      Start to count dreams from today, had one dream. And might had a false awaking but I'm not really sure to 100%.
      Will also write down the dreams, but might not write down the dream I'd today (idk why, but previous days I been having dreams where I cheat on my GF o_o and one of the LD dream was that too).

      [edit]
      btw, this thread is like 8 months old, and in topic is not right anymore (I'm 21 now, etc).
      Is it possible to get this deleted if I create a new workbook thread?
      Last edited by LonelyCloud; 01-01-2013 at 01:04 PM.

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      Congrats on your latest lucid and on your resolution to write your dreams down. That will really help you with everything.

      I have a spread sheet with date, type of lucid, what time it happened, time of going to bed and getting up, what RCs I used, any special happened? This helps me keep track of what works and what doesn't - like I use a new RC during day - when will it show in a lucid. It's exciting to look at it and see my progress.

      And we normally don't delete threads. Look, you had 640 views - people do read these threads and learn from them. You are welcome to post an update if you like. Happy dreams

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      Okey.

      Now I got my B6 vitamins from eBay.
      200mg L-theanine and 100mg B6 I might try tonight, may that be great?

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      Quote Originally Posted by LonelyCloud View Post
      Now I got my B6 vitamins from eBay.
      200mg L-theanine and 100mg B6 I might try tonight, may that be great?
      I have not tried L-theanine, but I do take 50 or 100 mgs B6. First time I took it, it gave me 3 incredibly long and detailed dreams, but not since then. But my dreams did increase in details from awareness, dream journaling and LDing. Give it a try

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      Oh okey.
      Well, I just took 100mg B6 and then 100mg L-theanine. I think I stay for that, for this time. Maybe it gets better recall.
      Hope I don't die, who knows what can be in these pills from eBay lol, not that I would care much as I think heaven is better than earth.
      Anyway, gonna go sleep very soon and try to tell myself to remember the dreams etc. Need wake up in like 7 hours and 45 min from now, so I better hurry now.

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      One dream, at last.
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      So, I haven't put up any dream goals. Thought about it today at the work when I had nothing to do all day. So I read about ADA once again and practised it during the day.

      GOALS by prior
      1. Get dream control (this is a must in order to do stage 2, I guess)
      2. Fly or teleport (or both)
      3. Meet dreamguide
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      Copying and pasting my signature status on the count I've (in order to look back and see how it grown from this day and forward).

      Counting from 1st January 2013 - Fragments: 23 - Dreams: 19 - False Awakings: 2 - Lucid Dreams: 0 - (last updated: 25th February)


      Once again I kind of got off the lucid road. However, I have sticked to the journal since I begun with it before the new year. Just a few days I didn't have the journal book near my bed, which mostly was because I forgot it in the bag (when I go back and forth to my gf and dad's house). In the journal I write an "H" for home and "M" for Malin (my gf) in the right corner, in order to look over where I slept that day. Also I write up the date on the right corner. And then I write up an "S:" for sleep, and the time I go bed. Then when I wake up in night I try always remember to look at time and write it down, then going back to sleep or try some lucid method if I feel like it (but I hasn't tried any techniques that much, yet).

      I think one step at the time is working if not being VERY into this, as I notice I might not be after all (because it takes just a couple of weeks and then I forgot most of the lucid dreaming practise).
      But, now I gone one step, done on the dream journal. I got dreams written up in it, though been lazy writing the dreams into dreamviews, might do it another day.

      Next step, may be to interp (or whatever called) a dream before bed. Telling myself I will notice that I am dreaming etc. Doing mantra, this, everytime I go bed. As I really total forgot to do it recently. I did it for some days ago when I remembered that I should try do it more often (or well, doing it always).
      So, I think that will be my next stage. Not only may it remember me of lucid dreaming more often, but it also may give more motivation too. Especially if I would success with a Lucid Dream.

      Previous years I had about 4 lucid dreams in total, that's 1 each 3rd month. Soon 2 months on this year passed and I have yet not had any lucid dreams.

      Very soon I will go bed and start on this next stage.

      [edit]
      Also this counter on my signature. I use to remember it when I have my journal near my bed, that I should log my dreams in order to not mess it up (as I do want as much dreams, fragments etc as possible during the year). This made me just think that I should make a counter for the ATTEMPTS. Like WILD, DILD, etc. This might help me trying.

      It might sounds like I don't want to lucid dream really, but I do, it's just that I seem to give up so simple and not put enough effort. And I think doing this might push me more into actually doing it.
      Might not only me it's like this. But I can refer to other things I says I will do, but in fact not doing it (use to be on my association or any graphical work I've thoughts of, but that I seem to be lazy to even do in the end).

      But, as for the physic training, I really not giving it up. What's pushing me is the motivation people giving me there. Lots of dudes with big muscle mass and they are very motivating. Also to see results, just 5 months and I can see better results. So that keeps me doing that.
      This results one, is like this counter, it shows me results and makes me motivated. But, I do not know anybody doing lucid dreaming or so, so the motivation from that ain't there. (though I might just be more active on forums like this).


      Well, it's fun to write out my thoughts, makes them more to sink in and so I don't forget it.
      G'nights
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      That's a good solid plan. maybe you should print it out and tape it into your DJ. Or make some bullet points in your DJ, with some colored pencils so they stand out.

      Maybe you could refresh your memory with re-reading Collection of techniques for DILD. And definitelly read Dreamviews. It's the best motivational tool there is.

      Make sure you use emotions when RCing - yo have to believe you are dreaming. Good luck

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      Ooh great thread! Thankss!
      I will start log attempts from 1st Mars and see if the motivation in trying will keep up.
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