from personal experience i know that absolute realism is possible in a lucid. from the sounds of others a high level of control is possible in lucids as well.

my question is, are the two attainable together?

for instance, it seems i either have one or the other. in stable lucids everything is mind-blowingly realistic, but i can't fly or exert control.

whereas low-medium level lucids i can fly or push my finger through my hand or things of that nature, but rarely with anything approaching full realism.

it seems that it would be VERY difficult to have an incredibly realistic lucid, AND exert control.

any experiences or advice to relate? i think i'm mainly looking for a few people to assure me it is possible, and encourage my attempts.presently i suspect that even those who lucid dream frequently and have tons of control just leave this dynamic aspect of lucid dreaming unspoken...

please, someone tell me i'm wrong...and dont say "well, anything is possible...." without having experienced it yourself. i'm looking for firsthand accounts of realistic, stable dreams where specific control was used.

as in looking around your room right now, knocking on the wall, turning the light off and on, jumping through your window, and flying ten feet above the ground without the dream getting hazy and losing full realism.