Thread: Anyone else able to wake themselves up at any given time...

If you know you are dreaming try to see if you can do something to change the mood of the dream. I have heard that nightmares are very good dream signs, so if you find yourself in one, try to preserve the lucidity and remember nothing can harm you. You will be able to take on anything...

Well yeah your right.

Are you ready for the nightmare [/b]

I like your avatar...it makes me feel paranoid...

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Yep anyone basically who can Lucid dream can wake themselves whenever they want. Thats the fist indication of LD. *

I am the living proof that, that is not true(probally a few others in this forum like seri aswell). Then, I am not a control addict, actually...I dont practise control at all..silly control freaks This way you never gain any real acces to anything, you have to start realising you are rather powerless out there, and that you think you have ultimate control because you are a prisoner of your own mind, but nobody seems to realize that..gues you need personal proof and see what is really out there, next to your own little bubble

General mistakes people make:
- Practise ultimate control or too much control anyway, thats about all control but personal abilities
- Disrespect the astral plane and its inhabitants
- Get in with the incorrect intent
- Dont believe in an actual astral plane

These are the primairy things that keep people within their mind prison, and they dont even see its a prison, and I know its a pretty cool prison I suppose with all the control and stuff..but there is so much more out there that goes way beyond puny control.

It isnt all that pretyt out there, its not an escape from reality, its another reality full of bad stuff too. I have alot of lucid nightmares..I cant escape them, I dont want too, and facing them is alot harder then you think if you practise no control(which is impossible anyway for me) really, darkness is no fun, thats why I laugh at people who think they are evil and dark for example..ah hell Im just ranting a bit here...everybody just do whatever you want, and believe whatever you want, just know you miss out on a great deal, I suppose many are not ready yet. As long as you are a good person over here its ok with me ^_^

You don't use any control to face your nightmares? If so, why not?

I forget that i can control.

I dont use control with my nightmares because I cannot, I dont know if you were talking to me though, and besides its not just a "nightmare" that is but a mere production of your mind sometimes, at least, when you are in the actual astral plane.

I was talking to you....

Since you said you were lucid, I thought that you should be able to control stuff, except you didn't want to. Have you tried spinning or something else that might help you.

The important thing to remember, if its a lucid nightmare, is that nothing can physically hurt you. I don't really know much about the astral plane, but I would like to know more about it, and what happens to you when you try to confront your adversary....

Spinning doesnt work for me..lol, eventually will get me dizzy, and its not supposed to lol

About the nightmares not able to pshysically hurt you..well, somethings are worse then pshysical pain, and they can mentally and/or emotionally hurt you, and you feel the pshysical pain anyway, maybe not your pshysical body, but your astral body does feel the pain for example, just as much as your pshysical body would

In the astral plane, when you have to get rid of somekind of hostile force you can basicly just *fight* it with whatever techniques or "magic" or chi abilities you might hae available, sounds cliche but if you believe in it, such things do work, just, its not like in a control dream were trowing around magic and chi and the like is so easy, this stuff actually drains you and you do need the skill,wisdom and the right intentions, and if you wish to use something like a sword you will actually have to learn to do so. It might all sound like fun, but really it aint.

A more indirect way is an internal strugle, by simply oerwhelming the whafevers energy with your own, or with the mind or with plain emotional power ripping straight trough..but this requires even more *power* a strong mind, a pure heart(in the case of darkness) , strong energy or being very emotional at the moment, or drawing youe emotional strength from somewhere.

An other option is to flee the battle of course : P

Alot of the times they dont even really wanna fight you the regular way, so the chi and magic and the like wont be as effective, and you will have to be using the other way. Next to the reasons I gave some people are simply not strong enough to enter the astral plane to their soul keeps them out for their own safety, after all, like said, there are far worse things then pshysical pain.

I'm 90% sure I had my first astral projection trip 2 days ago.
It was uneasy. Having absolutely no control/summoning techniques is scary.

I recall there was something really strange/painful about my face/head. I was bold and my head looked like it was dragged through sand... Even thinking about it makes my head hurt and gives me a *real* headache...

Lucius, the concept of an astral plane and astral inhabitants is a bit tricky one. In the past people have thrown it out to mystify the entire topic of lucid dreaming and put a shroud a fear over it.

Based on my experience with countless lucid dreams, obe's (astral projection), and extensive reading on those topics, I've found directly that the first stage of lucid dreaming or obe's people encounter are completely mentally created. Consequently, like Truthbearer said, you can completely control the nightmares, stop those situations or take yourself out of those situations. The only remedy a lucid dreamer has is to eliminate fear as much as possible from his/her own mind. When you enter the dream world, then you can free your mind of the fear-created clutter that is associated with nightmares.

I used to have downright horrific nightmares up until I was about 20-21. After I focused more on meditation and clearing my mind and doing lucid dreaming, the nightmares totally stopped. I still have battles and what-not in dreams, but i'm never the victim.

there are "astral" inhabitants and beings from other worlds in our dreams, but to recognize them, follow them or visit others worlds is an entirely different journey you take after doing regular lucid dreams... getting out of your head in dreaming and shifting your perceptual system to a point outside of our immediate space is an incredible journey to me.

The point is I never had much control whatsoever (Ive been doing it since I was a kid)

The nightmares I have..well it should not be called nightmares, sometimes they are just downright "Assaults" or however you wish to call it, and no, most certainly not every battle is won..I experience alot of shit down there..but Ive found such wonderful things and beings..aye, I would not trade it for any kind of control.., my willpower and energy grows each day, but I have no need to be powerful, I just want to be in peace and at harmony with everything..and I..thats something personal *cough*, if there was any need for power anyway..it would be to protect the ones I love.

Can you fly away from your nightmare? If so, you could maintain lucidity and use it for other purposes, such as those you describe....

No use in running away from everything, you will have to face it ultimately anyway, but I manage, its not like Im terrorized every single night..and if I am I can handle it.

You are right, we must all come to face our evil, sooner or later...

Hope that, when the time comes, you can rid yourself of them for good

Good luck man!

Waking up is quite easy.. in a ld. I like doing it in a normal dream its allot harder, I also have to ask how come you can't control your body in a dream? is it just me or are most people able to that?

Me? I do control my body, with control I mean control on the environment, dream characters,events etc, everything that does not have to do with myself. I can control my own actions of course.

yeah, I used to wake myself up as soon as I figured out I was dreaming when I was younger. I'm not exactly sure why it makes no sense now. I would wake myself up by opening my eyes. It was really hard. They were so heavy. It was like lifting a gigantic weight. That's why I wonder if opening my dream eyes will really keep me from waking up when everthing goes black. One time when I was about 9 I had a dream I was reading. I don't think I was actually reading but looking at the book and ideas of the story were coming into my head. I woke up and saw my finger on the pillow tracking the words like I really was reading. It was weird. Now I have trouble staying in my dreams when I get to happy.

i have a bit of a setback....sometimes when im in a really intense dream..like a fight or somethin...i get out of my bed(still sleeping )and i will run around and randomly punch things throughout my house.(i can see it now...im over my friends house and he wakes up and see me punching his cat.."i told him not to smoke the whole bag" )......weird

What do you mean by being able to wake up from a lucid dream and control your body?
Explain in more detail if ya could I am curious


2ndly I can wake myself up as well but I dont necessarily think it is a good thing. When you wake up from a dream by losing control of it ...that blows. Everyone knows that. If it is a nightmare yes it is a good Talent to have cause I have some pretty crazy ones..I am sure everyone does. Now heres where necessarily comes into play...I am not sure that waking from a nightmare is the thing to do as a lucid dreamer. I feel we should explore and much as possible. People say that nightmares and people in them...the guy chasing you with the axe...or the mutated dogs with 3 eyes... or the woman that can just look at people and freeze them dead.. all have something to tell us about ourselves and our current situations. If you face a killer or enemy basically...anyone in a dream you fear or run from (or just if they freek you out) they will turn into somebody or something that you love. I've had from dead family members....I've had friends...or even a dog turn up. Now it is hard to wake yourself up from a non lucid dream but its really weird when its a lucid nightmare. I think it would be easy to change that scary person and say show yourself or something and they will change. Its tough but try to train yourself to just turn and face whatever it may be (the sitauations can get very close and very nervewracking)((if thats how you spell it)) Good luck..I know this is rambling I will be able to type better in the morning...potatoes have gotten to me...= P

Ive also got a weird ability like that. Im new to all this Lucid Dreaming stuff, i found this site off another site talking about dream control. I dont have an alarm anymore as i dont need it! Whenever i go to bed and i want to wake up at around 7, i just wake up at that time, or some time near it. Its weird, ive never had a lucid dream or anything like that before, and im one of those ones as i read on the site that 'doesnt dream'. I swear i dont, whenever i wake up i dont remember a thing, therefor i just assume i didnt have one. But yeah, ive never been late to work becuase of oversleeping, so its cool .

Originally posted by Corkdog
Is anyone else able to wake themselves up at any given time during a lucid dream???

I have full ability to do this.

I am actually able to get full control of my actual body during a lucid dream. *I just concentrate real hard and get control. *Then i open my eyes. * I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE CAN DO THIS!!

Alex
12 Years old

Exactly. I can do this too, but only did it twice. At first there were a few false awakenings, as if the dream wanted to trick me into thinking that I'm awake, so I'd stop trying to really wake up. But I've kept trying, until I finally opened my real eyes. Both times it was followed by several seconds of sleep paralysis, or at least something that felt like extremely deep fatigue.

If I want to wake up, I can feel my real eyes and my dream eyes when I'm lucid. It feels like my eyes are giant, and hundreds of miles in the sky, floating there. I can still feel them as part of my body, but unconnected. If I ever wanted to, I could open them.

Rapscallion, is your name form huck finn by any chance? and oh yea. i can wake myslef up in a lucid dream. i do it all the time.