Thread: Ld Experiences Without Dream Control?

you can do anything in an ld. you have to believe that. if thats not enough then you can always try somthing i made up. i dont have a name for it but anyway you count down to 1 and after 1 it happens! like example: the night will change to day in 3,2,1 then it changes. dont give up on dream control yet! thats the best part of an ld.

Maybe instead of trying to control the dream, focus on just doing things within your dream, like flying.

I find it's incredibly easier to have DC's do everything for you instead of yourself controlling EVERY aspect of the dream. DC's always listen to me and I think that's true for most people across the board. So just ask them to help you.

Thanks for advices. (Although my question is still unanswered, so I'll need to help myself again.)

Try using a magic wand - since it's an extension of yourself, you'll be more confident that it will work.

run onto a highway... pick a car up.... and thow it into on coming traffic... pile ups look sick

To answer your question. . . do anything that occurs to you. Maybe if you try doing things you would never do in waking life it will help to convince your mind that you are dreaming and therefor in complete control of your surroundings whether you realize it or not. Jump off your roof. Get in a fist fight. Run down the street naked.

I think you haven't gotten many responses answering your question because no one thinks you should give up trying to gain control. Learning to have lucid dreams without working at your dream control . . . is like . . . learning to doggy paddle but not how to do the breast stroke. Sure. . . you're swimming. . . but you're stuck in the shallow end with the noobs for eternity. The REAL fun is all going on in the deep end. I totally get why you're frustrated cause my control sucks. My LDs are for the most part short and boring, but I know I can gain control if I keep trying cause lots of people are able to do it. If they can, so can I, and so can you. You just have to put in the hard work. Try designing lesson plans for yourself to test your proficiency level. What CAN you do? What CAN'T you do? Decide what your short and long term goals are. Try some very simple things. Try every technique you can find. Most importantly, keep a possitive attitude. If you're convinced you can't do it. . . then you can't. That's the whole nature of lucid dreaming. You have to have confidence in yourself and your mind.

Originally Posted by Jimmie

To answer your question. . . do anything that occurs to you. Maybe if you try doing things you would never do in waking life it will help to convince your mind that you are dreaming and therefor in complete control of your surroundings whether you realize it or not. Jump off your roof. Get in a fist fight. Run down the street naked.

I think you haven't gotten many responses answering your question because no one thinks you should give up trying to gain control. Learning to have lucid dreams without working at your dream control . . . is like . . . learning to doggy paddle but not how to do the breast stroke. Sure. . . you're swimming. . . but you're stuck in the shallow end with the noobs for eternity. The REAL fun is all going on in the deep end. I totally get why you're frustrated cause my control sucks. My LDs are for the most part short and boring, but I know I can gain control if I keep trying cause lots of people are able to do it. If they can, so can I, and so can you. You just have to put in the hard work. Try designing lesson plans for yourself to test your proficiency level. What CAN you do? What CAN'T you do? Decide what your short and long term goals are. Try some very simple things. Try every technique you can find. Most importantly, keep a possitive attitude. If you're convinced you can't do it. . . then you can't. That's the whole nature of lucid dreaming. You have to have confidence in yourself and your mind.
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Good point of view!

Originally Posted by Burns

Try using a magic wand - since it's an extension of yourself, you'll be more confident that it will work.

Hey Burns, thanks for this tip! It worked great for me last night. I was trying yet again to change night to day in an LD and finally remembered to pull a wand out of my back pocket. I gave it a swish, commanded night to day, and it worked!

Originally Posted by EagleEye

Hey Burns, thanks for this tip! It worked great for me last night. I was trying yet again to change night to day in an LD and finally remembered to pull a wand out of my back pocket. I gave it a swish, commanded night to day, and it worked!

That's great, EagleEye! I'm glad it worked for you! I bet you can't wait to use it again next time.

Say the following command in your dream: "I am God, and this is my World".


I use it because it builds a very strong bridge of confidence. This might work for you too, but you have to believe you're the boss and as the boss you can do what ever you want

you might want to consider giving this a sniff