Thread: Best thing to do when lucid? Nothing.

It gets boring, though. I've tried it. It's woderful to just sit there and soak everything up, but it really gets boring. Kind of like waking life. If you live a groundhog day, everyday, it's boring. When I'm lucid, I want to do stuff, not just sit there and soak things in, you know? I do that every day. I want to live, even if it's just in a lucid dream.

one time i really just sat there in my bedroom and took a real good look
around. It was my bedroom all right, but when i stopped to look i noticed
things were a little off. For instance...no curtains on the windows...or
little trinkets were absent or the color was wrong....weird stuff like that,
that you wouldnt notice right away if you took off immediately. Once i look
around tho, then ill do something more interesting, Ill not waste an LD
sitting around for long when i can be flying!

I'd imagine an important part of this would be learning to appreciate the simpler things, a deeper connection with personal reality and experience and understanding. Certainly, for the average person, sitting and staring at the world around them can get them antsy in a hurry.

Why sit when you can explore? Some people don't get a second chance to lucid dream. It would be a waste to just sit it out.

Originally Posted by EEclips3

Why sit when you can explore? Some people don't get a second chance to lucid dream. It would be a waste to just sit it out.

Well, obviously you wouldn't do this on your first few lucids. Once you're more experienced, doing nothing in a lucid is a form of exploration, really.

Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

Well, obviously you wouldn't do this on your first few lucids. Once you're more experienced, doing nothing in a lucid is a form of exploration, really.

haha Pensive Patrick....I love that name!!

Anyway youre 100% correct!! You can see some crazy shit
in your LDs if you just stop and take the time to look around.
Dont try and summon stuff either, just take a look-see whats
already there. And no matter how crazy or weird it is, it is
something your mind has created! And sure its cool to feel
the warmth of the sand on your feet or to feel the dream
sand flow out of your hands and also see every grain of the
sand as well as in reality....or a piece of wood or something.
But the weird, crazy shit is even more interesting! Hell you
might even see two grasshoppers talking to one another!
I saw a rabbit walk by me under the water the other night
in a LD while i was immobile under the water.
I didnt think that up as far as i know, but i guess i must
have unconsciously done!

Originally Posted by supreme

haha Pensive Patrick....I love that name!!

Well thanks, but I don't

I thought it up when I was still an idiot.

I think it would be good to do nothing maybe on the odd occasion.

Sounds like a good way to have a crazy long lucid dream too.

By "nothing," it should mean to not control the dream in anyway possible. Just walk around or sit at a bench or something.

I think LD's might be a way of finding the meaning of life? Think about it. Why is it so real. Why does it leave some people with a deeper meaningof their lives? I havn't yet been able to LD so please tell me about your experience of finding the meaning of life.

Sound interesting to say the least. But then again, I could just sit in a real-life field, and observe the birds fluttering around the polluted landscape, the crisp packets scintillating the raging sun, and the chavs and chavettes causing havoc to the unsuspecting public.

Then again, the dream world is without such. I'll give it a try.

There are other possibilities however which I failed to mention such as the possibility that preexisting biases in perception either sway or dominate the individual conception of reality creating the perception that things are appearing at a higher resolution when really it is only that more attention is being payed to some classes of ephemera over others. what I mean is that it could be the case that some things are being increased in resolution at the cost of others, this would constitute a change in contrast but not a change in resolution, not the same thing as a pure increase in resolution.

Honestly however I have payed very close attention and I don't believe the ladder to be the case...but then how would I ever know? there isn't any way to tell. All I can do is try to keep everything in balance, concentrate remain centered and impartial and try to understand what is going on so I can help it happen with more quality.

That seems like a great idea! I think I'll try it in my next LD.

Also, though, there were a few things that I thought of while reading a couple of posts here:
First of all, I read DNK's post, "I like to know when I'm dreaming and when I'm not." I've always thought (at least subconsciously, without putting a name on the idea) that this is the true 'sixth sense,' the sense of knowing when one is awake. If you think about it for a while, you'll realize that you instinctively know when your awake, there's no question about it. Unfortunately, it doesn't work to let you know when you're not awake, in fact that's what makes lucid dreaming so difficult.

The second idea is a bit more on topic. I always find it interesting when someone says, for example when slayer wrote, "Look at what your brain is making infront of you." I'm not saying that anything stupid was said, but instead that it seems strange is that you can look at what your brain/mind is creating in front of you when, theoretically, you are the mind, and therefore you are looking at what you are doing without actually doing or seeing it. Sort of like the saying, "Let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing." In fact, it adds another layer to this idea, where you are only one part of your being, and can only be that one part. In that assumption, would it not be to far a stretch to assume that there are other parts of your being watching at the same time, and other parts of your being, that watch when you create? I think I might make another thread devoted solely to this topic...

Sorry if I'm interrupting a conversation, but I wanted to post my thoughts about this. For a while, I've had a lucid dream maybe every one or two months. One of the coolest things I've done is had a super power. You get this happy feeling no matter what your power is. I usually don't even remember my powers and sometimes never even get the chance to know what they are, but I still get that feeling.

I might try this idea sometime after my next LD, (i haven't flied in a while). It sounds kinda scary though.

Doing nothing seems like it could be a truly rewarding experience. I will try it after I perfect my flying (that's a bit more important to me, no offence).

Originally Posted by Graech

That seems like a great idea! I think I'll try it in my next LD.

Also, though, there were a few things that I thought of while reading a couple of posts here:
First of all, I read DNK's post, "I like to know when I'm dreaming and when I'm not." I've always thought (at least subconsciously, without putting a name on the idea) that this is the true 'sixth sense,' the sense of knowing when one is awake. If you think about it for a while, you'll realize that you instinctively know when your awake, there's no question about it. Unfortunately, it doesn't work to let you know when you're not awake, in fact that's what makes lucid dreaming so difficult.

The second idea is a bit more on topic. I always find it interesting when someone says, for example when slayer wrote, "Look at what your brain is making infront of you." I'm not saying that anything stupid was said, but instead that it seems strange is that you can look at what your brain/mind is creating in front of you when, theoretically, you are the mind, and therefore you are looking at what you are doing without actually doing or seeing it. Sort of like the saying, "Let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing." In fact, it adds another layer to this idea, where you are only one part of your being, and can only be that one part. In that assumption, would it not be to far a stretch to assume that there are other parts of your being watching at the same time, and other parts of your being, that watch when you create? I think I might make another thread devoted solely to this topic...

I think that is rather an interesting thought. I know what DNK means about watching what your brain creates in front of you. It's it feels like you are only part of your brain and you just exerience what the brain shows you. Because I am still in the early stages of getting to grip with LD, it's like I'm still not in control. I think in order to gain some kind of control, I need to just let things happen and watch them. Like letting my deeper part of my mind show me stuff, and get to know it better. Like some sort of deeper level of communication. Maybe thats whats makes all these people have a feeling of a more complete-ness in waking life? I don't really know, I am just rambling now. But this could be an interesting topic for all of us to talk about. I'm up for the new thread. xx

Actually, I don't think that "gaining control" and "just letting things happen" mean the same thing.

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Control is the absence of randomness, the absence of things "just happening."

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

Control is the absence of randomness, the absence of things "just happening."

Well, not always. If you're in control of your lucidity, and your consciousness, you can still just sit and watch things happen around you. You would technically be in control of your lucidity - just not the surroundings.

Originally Posted by carolann1975

I think that is rather an interesting thought. I know what DNK means about watching what your brain creates in front of you. It's it feels like you are only part of your brain and you just exerience what the brain shows you. Because I am still in the early stages of getting to grip with LD, it's like I'm still not in control. I think in order to gain some kind of control, I need to just let things happen and watch them. Like letting my deeper part of my mind show me stuff, and get to know it better. Like some sort of deeper level of communication. Maybe thats whats makes all these people have a feeling of a more complete-ness in waking life? I don't really know, I am just rambling now. But this could be an interesting topic for all of us to talk about. I'm up for the new thread. xx

There's a sad thing about control.

The more control you have, the blander the dream becomes.

Originally Posted by thomulf

There's a sad thing about control.

The more control you have, the blander the dream becomes.

amen to that, and this sounds like a wonderful idea. I'm going to try this next. (after i fly high, and resolve some unfinished business with people / person)

And that's an awesome Hydralisk Avatar

I just realised I do that a lot in reality I just sit down somewhere - I don't really care where, and day dream about stuff - I get great Ideas from that I'll try that in my next lucid. Or maybe before I sleep, looking at what things my mind shows me when I close my eyes... though I think I do that a lot when I try to fall asleep already XD

Originally Posted by DNK

How real is real here?

Excessive lucidity almost scares me. I like to know when I'm dreaming and when I'm not.

When I successfully pull off the Do Nothing technique, the dream becomes so clear and real that I truly can't tell that I'm dreaming anymore. I suppose it's what you're calling excessive lucidity. Yes, it can be scary.

Originally Posted by OnTheHorizon

I think LD's might be a way of finding the meaning of life? Think about it. Why is it so real. Why does it leave some people with a deeper meaningof their lives? I havn't yet been able to LD so please tell me about your experience of finding the meaning of life.

Do Nothing dreams have taught me a lot about the "meaning of life". It's hard to describe this without sounding cliche. I think the experience speaks for itself. You're in a dream and you Do Nothing until it stabilizes into a world indistinguishable from waking reality. What does this say about waking reality? Neither is more "real" than the other. We simply experience two general kinds of existence in this universe, which we name 'waking' and 'dreaming'. Both are opportunities to learn: how to create fulfilling experiences, how to develop will power, how to understand our relationship to others.

So on the subject of discovering the "meaning of life", I'll add to my original suggestion about Do Nothing... Once you're sitting still and quiet in your lucid dream, ponder on your waking life and see what insights occur to you.

I tried doing nothing a while back, I almost forgot I tried and I should have done it for longer. But it was rewarding to stop and feel a table and find that it felt exactly as it does in normnal life.

I tried doing that in a dream but It didn't work out here's the link where I posted it: http://dreamviews.com/community/show...0&postcount=12