advanced lucid vision programming techniques...

**doktorj** · 07-19-2009 07:28 AM

hello.

i recently posted in the newbie section asking if anyone consciously controls their hallucination/visions (while awake), and to my surprise a few people responded yes...

so with that said, i thought i'd share my latest disovery in advanced techniques utilizing structured/logical programming loops/conditions, which control the objects (with a high degree of flexibitliy/control) within my lucid art worlds.

so imagine for a sec that i have this massive castle in my mind that is so majestic and vivdly complex, that any english description won't even come close...but it's true, i have been building on this castle art piece from vision to vision (which remains in tact) for upwards of 7 years now, and, during this last year or so.

to get to my programming point/technique, i'll have to give a brief intro to what some of the rooms/objects are like, so bare with me here:

this castle in my mind has many custom rooms, with most of the walls built out of custom and some even interactive materials. one room for example has translucent gel like walls with spectral colored sparkles floating inside of them, illuminated from the inside, and also beat synched/pulsating with whatever music you happened to be listening to at the time...some walls/floors are made out of huge shards of illuminated quartz crystal, or very reflective gold/silvers...

some of the rooms have people i place inside whom i visit from time to time, one of these rooms i made specifically for visitng my dead grandparents, where they kindof hang out and live.

their room has a glass bottomed/heart shaped hot tub, where you can see galaxies floating by underneath you when your in it ... i have some of my 2d artwork on animated and glowing on the walls...as well as various forms of enterainment for them.

since they liked to take me bowling alot when i was a kid, i made them this fully decked out bowling lane for them...with transparent/illuminated bowling balls/pins...and a scoreboard that lights up, and shows them pictures/videos of memories i had of them as a kid when they get a high bowling score.

another thing i'd do, was while i was visiting the room with them, i would invoke other family members (we have a huge family) to come in the room and visit them also...they always seem amused and pleased by this, so then i decided to attempt to whole 'family reunion' thing happen on a weekly basis...like a weekly loop lets say (every sunday). once i did that successfully, i realized that if i could apply a programatic loop within this vision, then what's stopping me from adding other forms of programming??? i'm a computer programmer by day, so this made alot of sense to me...

so the next thing i added for them was an interface on the wall which they could easily interact with, and which allows them to control which day/time that the family reunion would happen (instead of just on sundays)...

so that worked out, so i started trying to think of other ways i could allow them to control the family reunion loop...and the next thing was allowing them to modifiy the actual age of each person in the family reunion...so for example they could be visiting me when it was 10 and my brother when he was 5, and my dad when he was 1 ...and they could mix and match any way they wanted.

the most recent logic i've added to their 'family reunion control panel' was allowing them to visit with the family with mixed/matched ages, and based on their experience visiting them at certain ages, they could notice/observe/inquire about that family members life at the time of that age...and if they were having any kindof trouble/problems in their life at the time, my grandparents would then have the option of later approaching the control panel, and travelling back in time, and optionally entering into that family member's dreams, in order to send them messages via dreams about how to help them solve those specific problems...

i'm still dreaming up new ways to add complexity/practicallity to this...especially with the programming aspect... it's pretty much like a mini little matrix in my head, powered by conscious logic and advanced visionary art.

has any else taken it to this degree? or applied any level of logical programming to either a lucid dream or consciously controlled vision?

i'd love to hear if so, and also encourage everyone to try it...it's very funtastikal and amusing/beautiful

bow,
doktor J
http://www.doktorj.ca

**trev** · 07-23-2009 04:54 AM

damn dude, this is pretty amazing. i'm relatively new to lucid dreaming so i've never encountered a concept like this. i find it particularly impressive that you've been able to develop this castle over the years and that it remains intact and complete in your dreams.

i'm also a programmer by day. is the dream programming you're suggesting automatically work after you've decided on it? what i mean is -- are your programming directives evaluated subconsciously or ("automatically", like memory recall) or do you process all of it consciously? (family member's ages, bowling score videos, etc)

now that i think of it -- a really cool (but probably impossible/impractical) idea would be to extend this sort of programming into the basis of your lucid dreaming reality.. so that certain characteristics, or perhaps the entire reality would be dependent on the outcome of memorized routines/programming, using dates, times, recent events, emotions, etc as the independent variables. this might make the dream world more stable and reliable, yet not quite predictable. maybe even a language could be developed -- "DERL" (instead of PERL)! but i'm getting ahead of myself. just reading your post inspired me on this topic though.

hope this post wasn't too irrelevant. haha

**doktorj** · 07-23-2009 03:08 PM

trev: i'm fully stoked to have someone respond who kindof understands what i'm actually talking about...since the general response i get from most people on this subject is just a simple 'interesting' or 'wow you're weird' type of thing... i really believe that i've tapped into a very large dimension of possibilities here... kindof like neo waking up within the matrix, and then learning real and practical skills to navigate the dream realm with far more programatic/lucid control.

it is indescribably awesome.

**オースチン** · 07-27-2009 06:28 AM

I didn't realize this sort of thing was out of the ordinary. I just sort of considered it thinking and using my imagination all these years. It's possible that I'm misunderstanding what you wrote, but I guess this sort of thing comes naturally to me or something. Whatever it is, it's been enjoyable for me as well.

However, you guys make your brains sound much more electronic and computer-like than I would describe mine...

**Mariano** · 07-27-2009 09:12 PM

before I say something I must understand something.
I don't understand the part of the family.
you are talking about dreams? or your real family? how can real people access to your mind? there are things I don't understand...

**doktorj** · 07-29-2009 05:09 AM

オースチン: i'm a computer programmer by day, and have a background in electronics, so this type of logical structure/descriptive comes naturally to me...not to mention i'm a huge fan of the whole 'matrix' ideologies...

**doktorj** · 07-29-2009 05:10 AM

Mariano: i'm talking about accessing the minds/souls of real (but dead) people within my dreams, which is quite possible...try it x)

**seriouscentaur** · 07-29-2009 08:21 AM

So you experience the castle while you're awake... like actually, consciously seeing it right there in front of you? Or do you just think up more rooms that you can visit when you're asleep?

Visualization is very interesting to me.

**doktorj** · 07-29-2009 08:36 AM

seriouscentaur: yes, the castle scenerio has all been constructed consciously behind closed eyelids...

visualization is next level language for sure...now if i could just learn gain some solid telepathy skills to share it with people, i could get alot of places alot faster x)

**seriouscentaur** · 07-29-2009 10:09 AM

How did you start out visualizing? I've tried a few times, but I find it's hard to keep focused on my mind's eye. I can only get a glimpse every now and then. But then you're off writing code for crazy glowing rooms like it's easier than looking at the back of your hand haha.

**Syruplord** · 07-30-2009 04:27 AM

could you explain the "programming" aspect of this? I really don't understand the link between programming loops and visualizations in your mind's eye.

**Starmonger** · 07-31-2009 07:11 PM

cool thread!

Reminds me of 'Garry's Mod' for Half life

**Arutad** · 08-03-2009 03:55 PM

What is this thread doing in Dream Control? The topic has no relation to lucid dreaming at all, despite the misleading usage of the word "lucid" in its title.

**doktorj** · 08-04-2009 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Arutad

What is this thread doing in Dream Control? The topic has no relation to lucid dreaming at all, despite the misleading usage of the word "lucid" in its title.

Google Definitions of lucid on the Web:

* limpid: (of language) transparently clear; easily understandable; "writes in a limpid style"; "lucid directions"; "a luculent oration"- Robert ...
* having a clear mind; "a lucid moment in his madness"
* coherent: capable of thinking and expressing yourself in a clear and consistent manner; "a lucid thinker"; "she was more coherent than she had been just after the accident"
* crystalline: transmitting light; able to be seen through with clarity; "the cold crystalline water of melted snow"; "crystal clear skies"; "could see the sand on the bottom of the limpid pool"; "lucid air"; "a pellucid brook"; "transparent crystal"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3A+lucid&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US

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**Arutad** · 08-04-2009 01:23 PM

No need to excuse yourself, the definition of "misleading" hardly implies an effort that is necessarily conscious. Otherwise I'd have said that you used the word "lucid" on purpose to insert the topic where it did not belong. And I'm not saying that. However it doesn't change the fact that your topic has nothing to do with dreams and dream control.

**doktorj** · 08-04-2009 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Arutad

No need to excuse yourself, the definition of "misleading" hardly implies an effort that is necessarily conscious. Otherwise I'd have said that you used the word "lucid" on purpose to insert the topic where it did not belong. And I'm not saying that. However it doesn't change the fact that your topic has nothing to do with dreams and dream control.

well, considering the fact that i believe that this 3rd dimensional illusion is a dream within in itself, i don't believe the topic is where it doesn't belong...and i doubt i'm the only one here with this lucid belief.

**Arutad** · 08-04-2009 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by doktorj

well, considering the fact that i believe that this 3rd dimensional illusion is a dream within in itself, i don't believe the topic is where it doesn't belong...and i doubt i'm the only one here with this lucid belief.

You are AWAKE while doing it => it's not related to dreams or dream control.

What you philosophically believe it to be is another topic suited more for Beyond Dreaming or Philosophy forums.

**doktorj** · 08-04-2009 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Arutad

You are AWAKE while doing it => it's not related to dreams or dream control.

What you philosophically believe it to be is another topic suited more for Beyond Dreaming or Philosophy forums.

Le sigh...
I have no doubts that one day soon, YOU will be AWAKE too and also become lucid within this 3rd dimensional dream...

**Starmonger** · 08-04-2009 03:18 PM

he's Neo

we're in the Matrix!!!

**doktorj** · 08-04-2009 03:26 PM

more accurately: we're all neo, progressivly becoming more and more lucid...

**Syruplord** · 08-04-2009 08:54 PM

That is true. All of us are made up of the same energy of life, it is only a matter of time before we transcend our physical forms

**XsupremeX** · 08-04-2009 09:38 PM

I think you should lay off the ganja for a while...

**Starmonger** · 08-08-2009 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by XsupremeX

I think you should lay off the ganja for a while...

hahaha, that gave me a good laugh

**Koalaman** · 08-09-2009 10:18 PM

I thought this was about being in a dream and re-entering your (designed) castle that remains consistent (with added complexity each time). I agree with Arutad that it doesn't belong here in dream control, because it's not necessarily aimed at dream control.

Even though the concept really rocks.

**Dream scientist** · 08-10-2009 01:18 AM

Wow, dude, you are the best grandson in the WORLD!

Okay, develop this into a DREAM castle, then get back to us.

...and while you're at it, try programming entire scenarios to happen, all starting with a simple event, like the domino effect.

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