Two nights in a row...

[sugarlump]

Ok so I'm new to this forum and wish to get some answers. From ever since I was a child I've had lucid dreams. The past two nights I've had two in a row and can't help but think they mean something. The first dream is a bit vague so I apologise, but I was on my own, walking in my home town. It was daylight, the sun was shining it was a nice day and I was heavily pregnant. I turned off the main street into a field where 3 men approached me, one of them was holding two blades. Not knives, blades. The one holding the blades put one against my neck and the other against my pregnant belly. Now I do not recognise these men in real life, the one holding the blade had protruding crooked teeth, the other two I can't remember. I took my handbag off my shoulder and threw it on the floor and told them to help themselves to whatever money I had, the man with the blades bent down to root through my bag and I ran. I ran through the town screaming for someone to help me but everyone just ignored me. The men were chasing me and they were getting closer and closer each time I looked round. I woke up at this stage, obviously a little distressed. The second dream is the one I had last night. I dreamt I was in a house, it was an old house parts of it was falling apart. I was there with this woman- who I do not know in real life and I cannot remember her face. She was asking me to help her as the house had three ghosts in it- one particularly evil ghost was called 'Charlotte'. I went from room to room evaluating the house and in my dream I could feel I wasn't welcome and I was being watched. I told the woman I would help her get the ghosts to the 'other side' and went downstairs and stood in a small hall, almost like a church hall but it was like nowhere I have ever been. So there I stood I called each ghost one by one, the only name I remember is Charlotte and I said something like "I command you to leave this world, and cross over.... something something something." Each ghost floated in front of me, twisted and contorted until they screamed away to the other side. Bear in mind I don't really believe in this lol. The first ghost was all white, female and didn't resist, the second was female with a flowing blue dress on and also didn't resist. Charlotte come to me and she was wearing a scarlet dress and she fought to go over. I shouted and screamed at her and she roared and tried to get to me but something held her back. When she eventually disappeared I threw myself on the floor and actually felt exhausted. This is pretty much all I remember. I would be grateful if someone can tell me if either of these mean anything.

[EdwardG]

Ok so I'm new to this forum and wish to get some answers. From ever since I was a child I've had lucid dreams. The past two nights I've had two in a row and can't help but think they mean something. Yes, having read through them, I definitely think they mean something. However, I don’t think these dreams are lucid. At least, you haven’t described any element of control in them. And actually, that’s a good thing, because lucid dreams don’t have the same reliable symbolism as standard dreams do, because the dreamer is consciously controlling what’s happening in the dream. Standard dreams, like these seem to be, are much better for interpreting than lucid dreams are. The first dream is a bit vague so I apologise, but I was on my own, walking in my home town. It was daylight, the sun was shining it was a nice day and I was heavily pregnant. The pregnancy means that if you don’t discover the message of this dream, and apply it, you will have to reincarnate again. Therefore, the pregnancy is a warning that this dream is quite important. I turned off the main street into a field where 3 men approached me, one of them was holding two blades. Not knives, blades. The one holding the blades put one against my neck and the other against my pregnant belly. These men are spirit guides. They’re not demons and they’re not malevolent, they are in your dream to guide you. The blades represent two critical errors you made on your lucid spiritual plane before this incarnation, and they represent the reason your time there was “cut” short. The one blade ends your time on your LSP, the other blade is to open your belly to allow for the reincarnation. Now I do not recognise these men in real life, the one holding the blade had protruding crooked teeth, the other two I can't remember. I took my handbag off my shoulder and threw it on the floor and told them to help themselves to whatever money I had, the man with the blades bent down to root through my bag and I ran. Your purse represents the wisdom you have collected in this incarnation to date. The guide roots through it to see if what you need is there. But you run off. I ran through the town screaming for someone to help me but everyone just ignored me. This is telling you that everyone has their own life path to walk, and you must walk yours on your own. The men were chasing me and they were getting closer and closer each time I looked round. I woke up at this stage, obviously a little distressed. The men are chasing you to show you something, but you have avoided them. You woke up distressed, because this dream is critically important for you to understand and that’s how the Divine Source sears it into your memory. The entire purpose of this dream is to inform you that there are critical lessons for you to learn in this incarnation to prevent failure on your LSP and thus to prevent your future reincarnations. But the actual lessons are not in the dream. They might be obtainable through an examination of your natal astrological chart along with the transiting planets for the time of this dream. You can submit this dream through my website if you want me to check that out for you: The Veridican - Dream Interpretation But perhaps this second dream can shed some light. You recorded both dreams together, so I believe they are connected. The second dream is the one I had last night. I dreamt I was in a house, it was an old house parts of it was falling apart. This represents your soul. You are an old soul with many reincarnations under your belt, but there is an aspect of your spiritual development that requires maintenance. I was there with this woman- who I do not know in real life and I cannot remember her face. She was asking me to help her as the house had three ghosts in it- one particularly evil ghost was called 'Charlotte'. The woman is a spirit guide. You have a lot of spirit guides in your dreams. You must be important in the realm of lucid spiritual planes. She’s getting you to do this task as a way of guiding you—maybe giving you a kind of experiential lesson. I went from room to room evaluating the house and in my dream I could feel I wasn't welcome and I was being watched. This is telling you to take stock of your spiritual situation. Not feeling welcome is the resistance you have to change. We all have a certain amount of resistance to change. I told the woman I would help her get the ghosts to the 'other side' and went downstairs and stood in a small hall, almost like a church hall but it was like nowhere I have ever been. So there I stood I called each ghost one by one, the only name I remember is Charlotte and I said something like "I command you to leave this world, and cross over.... something something something." The ghost of Charlotte. I believe this refers to Charlotte Bronte. She wrote a book called, Jane Eyre. I believe your are to study the themes and symbols of that novel, and also possibly to study the life of Charlotte Bronte as well. You sending her to the “other side,” I believe means that there is something about her life and work that will give you the wisdom you need on your lucid spiritual plane. Each ghost floated in front of me, twisted and contorted until they screamed away to the other side. Bear in mind I don't really believe in this lol. The first ghost was all white, female and didn't resist, the second was female with a flowing blue dress on and also didn't resist. Charlotte come to me and she was wearing a scarlet dress and she fought to go over. I shouted and screamed at her and she roared and tried to get to me but something held her back. When she eventually disappeared I threw myself on the floor and actually felt exhausted. This is pretty much all I remember. I would be grateful if someone can tell me if either of these mean anything. I don’t know what the other two ghosts are—perhaps previous attempts at finding the right wisdom. I don’t know. I think the scarlet dress signifies the importance of this Charlotte over the other ghosts. But I’m not clear on the meaning there either. Good luck, Sugar Lump. I hope you find the lessons you are to learn. jane_eyre.jpg Sincerely, Edward

[JoannaB]

Sugarlump, First a clarification: were you aware during these dreams that you were dreaming (that's the definition of lucid dream)? Or do you mean that these dreams were vivid dreams? That distinction matters because in a lucid dream one's conscious self is in control, and thus while I still think some elements of such dreams could be interpretted, but it would make a difference then to know when in the dream you became aware that this is a dream. May I assume that you are not actually pregnant? If not, then pregnancy can symbolize a new beginning of a new project or of a new part if your life. In this dream that new development in your life is endangered, threatened, in a confrontation with others. Your throwing your purse to the ground to have the robbers help themselves is a common sense approach to such a situation. Your running is probably a wise choice, a smart solution, given the circumstances, but this smart solution no matter how good of an idea it is, may not be good enough because the trouble may still catch up with you, you fear. Note: I do not believe that this dream is prophetic, so it does not actually tell you whether your new project will fail or succeed, but rather it says that you fear failure despite your best efforts, I think. In the second dream you are working very hard at achieving something, and again there is a confrontation but this time not with robbers but with Charlotte the ghost. Just like in the first dream where you at first three the purse in a common sense solution and made the smart choice to run away, here you at first also seem to have the situation well under control even though you do need to spend a lot if effort to send those ghosts on their way, but at first the effort appears fruitful. However, just like in the first dream, this dream also ends on a note of doubt in your own success - you do not know whether you are sufficiently up to the task - of running from the robbers or of fighting off Charlotte or of whatever the big task is that is confronting you currently in your life. So I suspect that both these dreams are about your competence in handling issues that confront you in a major new or future project/issue/development in your life, and about your doubt as to whether or not you are up to the task, even though you know you have the ability / know-how / common sense / effort to start this task, but you are not sure whether you have what it will take to ultimately succeed in it at the end. If this does not sound right, please discard, and if you would be willing to share a bit about what is currently going on in your life, I think dream interpretation can be much more accurate if we have some context. I hope this helps.

[sugarlump]

You can submit this dream through my website if you want me to check that out for you: Thanks Edward, I have done that, what you interpreted was very interesting. The Charlotte Bronte thing is a bit weird however, I've read Jane Eyre years and years ago and I also studied all the Bronte sisters in English Literature. Did you know that Charlotte Bronte died while she was heavily pregnant? Does this somehow tie into my first dream or is it a coincidence?

[sugarlump]

May I assume that you are not actually pregnant? If not, then pregnancy can symbolize a new beginning of a new project or of a new part if your life. In this dream that Actually I am pregnant, but only just found out. My subconscious mind must have known before I did.

[JoannaB]

Actually I am pregnant, but only just found out. My subconscious mind must have known before I did. Ah, of course it did! Subconscious mind is generally more in tune with pregnant women. Congratulations! Your actually being pregnant is very significant, and I believe changes the interpretation significantly. First of all, it is normal for an expectant mother to fret over danger to her and her child: your motherhood instinct is kicking, in strong, and a large part of that instinct is to protect. Expectant mother often wirry whether we are ready yet for this responsibility - I know I did when I was pregnant. And the secret is that in some ways we are never ready for motherhood, but we manage to become ready for this new responsibility because we are called upon it. The moving of ghosts to the other side is kind of like giving birth, moving them to a new world: maybe you worry that you may have difficulty during birth - that is a natural worry during pregnancy, something most expectant mothers worry about. During pregnancy you are likely to get some of the most vivid and weirdest dreams ever, that is quite normal. Enjoy pregnancy and your new child growing within you. Congratulations!

[sugarlump]

Thank You. This is my second pregnancy, I already have a little girl who is nearly 4 and although I have always had vivid dreams I remember having more when I was pregnant. I guess it does make more sense now why I had two dreams one after the other.

[EdwardG]

Thanks Edward, I have done that, what you interpreted was very interesting. The Charlotte Bronte thing is a bit weird however, I've read Jane Eyre years and years ago and I also studied all the Bronte sisters in English Literature. Did you know that Charlotte Bronte died while she was heavily pregnant? Does this somehow tie into my first dream or is it a coincidence? Congratulations on being pregnant, but I don't believe it has anything to do with this dream, even if you didn't know you were pregnant until after this dream had occurred. It may well have been precognitive that the symbol in the dream was one of pregnancy, but I don't believe it changes the meaning of the dream. I received your information via my website (I mention that only because you already mentioned it in this forum.), and I will now look at things in light of your astrological chart and submit a report to you via e-mail. Take care, Edward

[JoannaB]

I don't think that dreaming of pregnancy when one is pregnant but does not consciously know it yet is precognitive. The body is pregnant and subconscious knows it. Of course, the pregnancy can still also have other meaning in addition to the literal.

[sugarlump]

Had another dream last night! Had a dream I got a new job as a warden in a sheltered home for the elderly. I had to walk a long way to work- even though I drive and it was in the other end of town to wear I live currently. My legs felt tired when I got to work. When I met my former colleagues, two of them I knew in real life. One was from my job in a nursing home and the other from my current job, both female. My other two colleagues in the dream were male and did not know them at all. The older male colleague asked me if I wanted to go with him to the market to pick up some vegetables. I said yes so I got in the car and so did one of the female colleagues that I knew from a previous job (also the older female). We drove to the market- there was nothing of the journey, only that it was downhill to the market. We got to the market and my female colleague bent down to pick up a cauliflower (random I know) and another man come up behind her and pinched her bottom. I turned around and went after the man and started shouting at how disrespectful he had been, my female colleague didn't seem bothered and told me to leave it. We went back to work and everyone went home, I stayed with the younger male and helped him pack away some red antique cups and saucers which I could smell were very musty. Then now comes the really random bit, I realise I am wearing shorts as part of my uniform and my legs are really hairy so I ask the man I'm working with if he has a spare razor I can borrow. He says yes and he opens a box and there is a razor there. I take the razor and go into a separate room and start shaving my legs. At this point the other female colleague comes in (the one I work with now) and asks me what I'm doing. I tell her, I'm simply shaving my legs and then she asks me if she can have a look so I pull my leg up so she can see. Then I wake up. Edward I have submitted this to you via e-mail, I hope you don't mind

[JoannaB]

I will try to remember to spend more time reading this dream later today when I have more time, but a few initial observations: Your job is in a nursing home for the elderly. During pregnancy I think our minds often go to the cycle of life, from birth to old age to death, so I think this dream may be in part due to your thinking about old age as well, perhaps wondering whether someday you shall be in a nursing home and will your kids take care of you in old age. Working at a nursing home is also about responsibility for people of different age, and you certainly have a lot of that with kids. A major focus in this dream seems to be on your legs: starting with your legs hurting due to long walking and ending in the bizarre shaving legs scene. I wonder whether in part that is due to your memory of body changes during pregnancy, and how the legs are going to hurt when walking maybe, and how you may perceive yourself as less attractive (unshaven), and how there will be in general a greater focus on your body now. The man showing disrespect to a woman is significant too, you expect respect from man at this time? And may be less tolerant of frivolous flirting.