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      Dream of Graduating

      Dream of Graduating

      There are two dominant Dream Motifs that have been following me decades through my life, having once gone through my Schooling and then through something of a Military Career. My Dreams return me, sometimes, to being back in School, mostly at the University level but, often enough, returning me as far back as High School, and then there are Dreams of being returned to Military Command, often in different Services then the one I actually served in. Well, the Military Dreams have been evolving to the point where I’ve been experiencing promotions, sometimes even to the Field Grade Ranks, and often enough I’m not even required to be in uniform (which I suppose means that I am growing less rigid and more flexible in my thinking… less uniform).

      But the Dreams of School have hit a new note. The other night I was Graduating from University. Now I have often had dreams in which I was conscious of having multiple higher degrees, and of graduating High School for the 3rd or 4th time, but even then, I was still to be caught up in the System of Higher Education, as though I was never to be released. Enough was never to be enough. Then there were the common Sub-motifs of Scholastic Anxiety – approaching Finals without having attended any of the Lectures or having read any of the Materials, or realizing it is toward the end of the Semester and one has no idea what Classes one was even scheduled for. It would seem that failure was an absolute certainty. But over the years, there were dreams of planning, organization, reading, attending lectures, that is of actually doing the work. Resolving the anxieties.
      But in this most recent dream, finally, I was to be fully certified as completely educated and then to be allowed out the door. At last.

      And then there was an odd twist. I saw a young woman, but not too young, who was also Graduating, sort of the female equivalent to myself (though I am so much older, though my dreams rarely acknowledge my actual age). We were both donning our ceremonial robes and gowns, and I noticed that she was dressed informally but tastefully beforehand. And even while the dream was occurring I was able to contemplate the thought that her persona and my persona were comparable and similar – a sort of Mirror Image through gender opposites. She appeared to me as though she were confidently and adequately educated, and ready to move onto the actualities of Life and Career. She looked respectable. And in seeing that, it occurred to me that I looked respectable also.

      Well, I often tell the victims of Anxiety Dreams that they are in fact lucky, as studies have shown that people with Anxiety Dreams actually have less to feel anxious about then those people who dream anxiety free. It is as though Anxiety Dreams marshal one’s life toward a level of competence that effectively lifts one above ordinary anxious concerns. But what would I say about Dreams of Fulfillment and Completion. Well, I am an Old Man. If my Dreams have pushed me and driven me my entire life toward some level of achievement, then, even if the absolute heights of perfection have not been reached, still, what is to be gained from running some poor persona all the way into the Grave. The Higher Dream Mind must understand the Wisdom of eventually allowing some Peace, some ease, some comfort, some Dreams of Maturity.

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      Sounds like it means we never stop learning

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      Originally posted by Inspirer
      Sounds like it means we never stop learning
      However, what if perpetually learning keeps us from ever doing anything?

      Napolean had found that he could not give any important Executive Position to any intellectual or philosopher. They would think. They would conduct studies. They would do everything but actually do anything.

      More than a few Sociologists have pointed out that extended Schooling is equivalent to prolonging adolescence. In the case of those going into extended post-graduate studies, we have in our society 'adolescents' who are nearly 30 years old.

      So it would concern me, when I can see my own seventieth birthday on the far horizon, that I would still be dreaming of being in School. When, if ever, was I ever planning to Grow Up. If Life had a Purpose, when was I finally going to get to it.

      Those who can, do. Those who can't, stay in school.

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      Hi Leo Volont

      well dreams about colleges and school tend to be quite different in my experience. School dreams will tend to concentrate on the mistakes we make. Often a shcool dream will follow a particularly bad day in which we never really knew how to react. We never quite learnt the lesson

      University dreams are more about our skills and abilities. They show us mastering our abilities. A graduation dream may show us recognising that we have just finished a period of learning and now we must apply our skills.

      Your new dream is probably more classed as a wedding dream than a college dream. Its probably quite abstract and is likely to link to what you mention. Girls are happier and more contented and if you are graduating with her then it shows that you are at home with in the world of communication. The girl is young so maybe shows that you feel a sense of enthusiasm.

      But overall the dream would suggest.. as its a raduation for the final and last time that you are happy within yourself

      I agree with what you say about anxiety dreams. I often say a similar thing about religious dreams. The criminals who have inhabit our jails and whom commit murders and crimes without thought never get dreams about sinning. Its largely the people who are highly religious and who judge themselves according to high standards who have dreams abot sinning.

      http://www.geocities.com/hairybobby2000/dr...saycollege.html universities in dreams

      http://www.geocities.com/hairybobby2000/dreamz1.html 50 simple dreams interpreted

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      Drats! Big Drats with tails this dlong.

      I dreamt I was back, yes, again, in College.

      I was in a crowded dorm room. My brother was there also. Used to the drill, now, I reviewed my registration and was aware of my schedule, and was going over in my mind when I would read what. The Dorm was noisy, but so it always is, in these dreams, and I would figure out some kind of a work-around for it.

      Oh, and then an idea emerged... a dream memory of a detail that would add texture to the situation. It seems I remembered that I was within driving distance of my home, and that this Dorm Room would only be something of a Drop Station for me on days when I would have to be on Campus. i would not have to put up with any of the childishness after all.

      You know, without all the young people, Universities would be so much more compatible with Learning.

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      Well it's fairly plain to see that self-improvement is a major driving force in your life Leo. The subconscious is not a thing that willingly passes up a chance at symbolism, and so you find yourself once again attending school.

      Graduation will occur when Leo Volant is satisfied with himeself. When your analytical mind ceases to find aspects of yourself that require improvement, your dreams will also cease.

      Will this ever happen? Very possibly no. Though I don't think these are necessarily unpleasant dreams, if you did wish to end them you are left with two options. 1. Attain perfection. 2. Relax, be proud of your accomplishments, and accept your own (probable) inability to reach the lofty heights of perfection.

      Good luck Leo.

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      Originally posted by Ryden
      Well it's fairly plain to see that self-improvement is a major driving force in your life Leo. The subconscious is not a thing that willingly passes up a chance at symbolism, and so you find yourself once again attending school.

      Graduation will occur when Leo Volant is satisfied with himeself. When your analytical mind ceases to find aspects of yourself that require improvement, your dreams will also cease.

      Will this ever happen? Very possibly no. Though I don't think these are necessarily unpleasant dreams, if you did wish to end them you are left with two options. 1. Attain perfection. 2. Relax, be proud of your accomplishments, and accept your own (probable) inability to reach the lofty heights of perfection.

      Good luck Leo.
      Regarding the Pursuit of Perfection, I did not have a dream, but a friend of mine, Jim, once did:


      Jim's dream

      A friend of mine at work, Jim, who sometimes tells me his dreams, came to me with what he said was a big dream that he absolutely had to tell me about. In his dream, he said there was a huge mountain, extremely tall and extremely steep  more pointy than any "Real" mountain; and there were five young Indians climbing it. It was growing dark, and each of the five young Indians was carrying a stick tipped with bright sparkler-like emanations-- the lights had an awesome and yet subdued type of spectacular beauty.

      Here, I interrupted my friends to enquire as to where he was in the dream, or whether he was just a disembodied witness. He said that he often had dreams were his disembodied presence just witnessed the dream, and this was one of those times.

      Anyway, in the dream, the young Indians struggled to the top of the mountain, and they all reached their sticks upward. Then they twirled the sticks and leaped up and down with them, and they sang and chanted for awhile, and then I zoomed in and I was among them, still disembodied, but I could hear what they were saying. One of the Indians was telling the others, "Of course, now I know the source of our disappointment -- we are being too proud and too forward. We are not worthy that the Star God take our star fragments from us face to face. Surely, if we throw our star fragments upward and turn around and not look back, the Star God will then receive our offerings and we and our people will be very much blest." The other indians are convinced and looked relieved except one who stepped forward with a very serious look on his face and said, "No, we are simply not high enough. The Star God would reach down if He could, but He can't, not this far down. We must go higher. " The others in frustrated tones argued that this mountain was the tallest mountain they knew of. But the tenacious Indian would not relent -- "Then we must journey and enquire and learn of even taller mountains and seek them out and climb them -- and when we are high enough, the Star God will take these star fragments right from our hands. But we can never rest and we must always endure, even if it takes our entire lives -- we must go higher. "


      "Then", Jim said, " suddenly it was the next night and four of the young indians were coming back into their village -- slow, bent and tired. The Chief steps out and says, "Greetings, my young Braves, how did it go?" The one indian says "Chief, we had great success. Look up! The Star God took our star fragments and put them in the highest part of the Milky Way --there they are, can you see them?" And he pointed into the densest cluster of stars in the sky. The Chief looks up, squints and says, "Yes, I believe I can see them, they are very beautiful. But, by the way, where is. . . (and Jim makes the aside. . I forgot his name, but the Chief called him by name. . . ) Whatshisname? Is he straggling behind?" And the one indian said, "No! Whatshisname would never straggle. He was our leader -- when we stumbled he would give us a hand, and when we would grow tired he would encourage of us to climb higher and higher. Finally when we reached the highest peak, The Star God was so pleased with Whatshisname, our leader, that when he took the star fragments he also offered to take Whatshisname so that Whatshisname could be like a God himself and watch over the World and our People for all Eternity. So Whatshisname, turning away from our world and turning toward the world of spirit, gladly surrendered, and the Star God reached out and took him up in His own hands and they both rose up into the firmament above. He will be up in the sky, with the Star God, looking over us until the end of time. "

      And then Jim paused his narrative for a moment and looked pensive. He looked right into my eyes and said, "Then the most remarkable thing, even for a dream, happened. . . " but I just had to interrupt -- I said "The little bastards killed him. " And then, all excitedly, Jim jumped back in --"That's it! That's what happened in The dream. From behind the village somewhere, your voice started yelling "The little bastards killed him. The fuckin no good dirty little bastards killed him.". You know, I suspected the same thing, but was going to keep quiet, because that's where all those famous Indian legends come from, but there's Leo shouting "The little bastards killed him. " Then I woke up’. And he remarked that it's been years since he had such a long vivid dream. I asked him what meaning the dream had for him, and he just shrugged.

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