Thread: very evil persistant werewolf.

Michael

There's a lot here so I'll stick with the main theme. Can you say more about the monster? Was it male or female? What age? No need to think to hard just think what comes to mind.

Then there's the biq question as to what part of you does this monster represent? Always night - so we're talking about somewhere dark (very repressed) in your unconscious. It's after you, wanting to destroy you, suggesting internal conflict so dangerous that to "let your monster out" would cause destruction to you.

The last dream leads me to ask if there's anything signifiant in your life age 9. But that's not necessarily what the dream is saying. The number 9 is important somewhere, though. I must say that the imagery does strongly imply a child running from authority.

Bu

Hello Bu

The werewolf was definitely male, I don't know why I feel that, I just do.
It's age I wouldn't know, but I do think middle-aged (40 or so?)..

What the werewolf represents? For myself (subconscious) I don't really know, all I know is that intense fear/terror of it that I had (or have sometimes -when awake-, but at such moments I really seem like the child again, as if I'm taken over by the child).
What I learned about werewolfs (their mythology) is that at daylight it's a "normal" human, but with full moon, in the darkness, it's real nature comes out, then all it wants is destroy/kill/devour. What I also know, and I find this disturbing, is that the werewolf is filled with sexual lust, it stands symbol for these things..
Well, those things I've read about it though.

you have a point about the age, the werewolf nightmares started somewhere around my 9th year, and the me I tried to save in that second dream was also around 9 years old.
I generally can't stand "authority", I'm always against it, I just can't trust them for some reason, I always feel as if they would want to overpower me or have bad intentions.

And there are soms more strange things I think, plus an immense hate that gets triggered at certain subjects..

You sound very self aware. If the werwolf was around when you were age 9 then, unless you read or were told a lot about these things as a young child, the sexual aspects of the werewolf may not be relevant to a 9 year old. Later knowledge of sexual aspects of the werewolf may have sustained its continued presence in your life, though. The male-ness of the werewolf is what I expected. In fact I have yet to hear someone report that any creature or spook of the dark is female. There is something very human about the scary male which probably goes back to our earliest infant experiences of adults - in particular our father or whoever comes between us and our mother / caregiver (Freud's "oedipal complex"). Perhaps this is where the sexual energy you describe comes in. Some say that adult lust (and hate) is a re-awakening / re-formulating of our earliest feelings for our mother.

The werewolf would have been about 30 years older than you when it first appeared. The age possibly of your father??? Or perhaps someone of that age group such as a teacher of whom you were scared. Your lack of trust in authority perhaps points to how you were feeling at that age? Did authority make you angry, with the possibility of letting your own beast out?

Bu

I was not told about werewolfs at that age, that which I typed down was just something I learned form what I read about it (mythology and stuff) much later, and movies I saw.
For some reason at some point I wanted to know more about werewolfs and was somewhat atracted to the movies too, even though afterward I wouldn't feel comfortable for having seen it.
The sexual energy, as you put it, was not mine but something I read werewolfs are symbolised with, it freaked me out in a way because of some weird drawings I have been drawing since I was young (maybe also from off when I was about 9, that's just speculation, my memory is not that great about the past, I just don't seem to remember much.)

My father was about 27 when I was 9, so, he was not 30 years older.
I did have a teacher in group 7 (there I was 10/11 years), he called me stupid and more of the same many times because I wasn't that great in calculating, I didn't fear him though, but I did hate him.

These are all just ideas and suggestions for you to play around with. There will be a reason for the appearence of the werewolf and its age etc but it's next to impossible for anyone other than you to know what that reason in.

I think to an extent there is a werewolf in all of us (as indeed there are many other characters). If you believe in Jung's theories of archetypes then it would seem resonable that a character from mythology like a werewolf can manifest itself in a dream. For you, it's because your unconscious is making you aware of it because it's a big thing for you (for whatever reason). Your challenge is what you're going to do about it. Run? Fight? Or accept that it's part of you and integrate it into your life. Scary I know, but it's there anyway.

Ask it some questions next time it appears!

Bu

I would choose to fight, I'd love that a lot.
But that child was (is?) very afraid of the thing.(It was (is) like the child and I are a separate being)
I, like I said just now, am absolutely not, let's just say that if such monsters (any monster) would have existed for real I would make money by slaying them in order the protect others, I'd love it! (monster-bountyhunter )
Ofcourse such monsters are only fantasy, that's why I said if.

To ask it questions would be difficult, it's a long time ago that I've seen it in a nightmare, but if I would ever dream it again I think I can take control over the dream, how I do that? I have no idea, I just do sometimes.
Controling my dreams, doing anything I want, can be a lot of fun by the way, lately I don't remember my dreams that much though..

Thank's for the ideas and questions by the way Bu, it does let/make me think.

My pleasure.

Remember that in the dream the monster is part of you so what you're fighting is yourself. ( i.e. you can't win!!!) In waking life you fight to protect others - is this your monster coming out of its dark place?

Bu

What do you mean exactly?
Maybe you could explain a bit more, I don't really understand what you mean with -Is this monster coming out of his dark place?-.

In waking life I never really had to protect someone, but the urge is really there.
There were some little things ofcourse, like when still at midschool I was the "guardian" of my classmates, If someone would come to be mean all I had to do was just be there and nothing would happen. This wasn't always so, the first year I was bullied a lot, then at gym we had wrestling and I easily beat everyone, I even won (or almost won, can't clearly remember) at strenght from the gymteacher! (here I was 13!)
Since then everyone suddenly wanted to be friends, and thus I chose to protect them (if needed).
Or like at a moshpit at a metalconcert, if someone stands just next to it and becomes afraid I'll let them stand behind me so that I become their shield.

The dark place is the part of your mind of which you are unaware - represented in dreams by darkness.

But I don't think you being a protector is the same thing. In fact I think it's the opposite from what you have said. You identify others' fears as you recognise your own. Perhaps by being a protector for others you avoid contact with the werewolf inside you.

As I said before, these are just ideas. Throw them around and see what makes sense to you.

Bu

Originally Posted by Burned up

The dark place is the part of your mind of which you are unaware - represented in dreams by darkness.

But I don't think you being a protector is the same thing. In fact I think it's the opposite from what you have said. You identify others' fears as you recognise your own. Perhaps by being a protector for others you avoid contact with the werewolf inside you.

As I said before, these are just ideas. Throw them around and see what makes sense to you.

Bu

auch, that one hit.

Amazing things, dreams. And of course our search for meaning!

Bu

I agree, still I don't understand much about those dreams though, just some scary thoughts that are maybe the source of those nightmares, and these are no fun at all..

Oh well!

Humans search for meaning indeed, in about everything!
I wonder why that is, curiosity one would say, oke! But where does this curiosity come from in humans?
Humans always hope there is more. (And here I'm not only talking about a God or so, although I do believe in Christ.)

What is it that makes humans search so much? (Ofcourse I don't expect you to have an answer to that, it's just what I'm wondering about)

I don't know the answer either. Although psychologist George Kelly essentially believed that humans are uniquely meaning-making creatures in the animal world.

Bu

That's true, I've heard about that too.

Is it possible to somehow get to talk with that werewolf? Sounds weird, but if possible I want to know how!
And how do I summon it to come? haven't seen it in my dreams for ages.
And then, how ,ofcourse, do I control that dream?

Sounds a bit lame.. I know, but there are weirder things..

I don't know how you can make it happen although I daresay there are others here - parhaps in the lucid forum - who are more knowledgable. May be worth asking there?

Bu