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      Two of the strongest and most vivid/realistic dreams I've ever had...

      Can someone please interpret these? (EDIT: Background info is in my 1st reply. I read the READ ME after making this thread lol, sorry!)

      Here are two of some of my strongest and most realest dreams ever. These both happened one night in June 06 and I remember them and the effect they had on me like they happened yesterday.

      The first dream was of wife and I. We were on the Margate-Northfield (new jersey) causeway about to cross before a big storm set in. I don't know where we were going but we were just going. We were traveling by bicycle (old, sky blue, banana seat bicycle which belonged to my oldest sister Lynn when she was young). Before we got on the causeway, wife got on the handlebars of the bike. I then began to pedal feeling how difficult it was to move forward, not because she was on the handlebars, but because of the rising floodwaters. So wife got scared and wanted to sit on the crossbar. So I stopped and she got on the crossbar. At this point, we are on the causeway and I see the Sun is about to set and the waters are getting extremely rough. The water is almost a foot off the ground that I was pedaling on. Wife then wanted to sit on the back of the seat while I pedaled onward. She adjusted and I kept going except now I was super scared because the entire causeway was underwater and it looked like I was riding a bike in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean during a huge storm! The waves were huge!

      I finally made it to the other side but when I got there something weird happened, Wife was not with me. On the other side it was dark and there were sections of bush, trees, and a badly worn road. The road was littered with what appeared to be super deep potholes filled with black water. It was very hard to navigate through the street. But once I got around the corner, I was in a parking lot with those orange, yellowish street lights. I was alone and was not worried or sad that Wife wasn't with me; it just felt weird. Then it switched to the next dream.

      The next dream started with me lying (my feet were closest to the bottom of the stairs and my head was on a really comfortable pillow at the other end of the couch) on Lynn’s couch at her house (there was a gentle warm glow of white to everything, especially near the end part of the dream). Lynn was upstairs cleaning my niece's room and talking to me at the same time. An overwhelming sorrow was what I felt as I explained to Lynn my marriage's problems (I had my hands intertwined behind my head propping it up on the pillow; I was extremely comfortable). Then out of nowhere, Nicky comes walking out of my niece's room (from left to right), walks down the stairs all the while looking me in my eyes with this warming half-smile (she had on a white women's tank top and beige capris), walks over too me, lays right on top of me (she had both her arms folded with both her hands on my chest), looks me in my eyes (smiling fully now), says, "You see, if you had just told me how you felt about me when we were kids, none of this (pain I was experiencing) would have ever happened." She then closed her eyes and kissed me so softly and gently on my lips. The dream felt so real that I felt her body weight (she is about 5'3" 120lbs) and body heat on me. I even felt the softness, wetness, and warmth of her lips pressed against mine. Those were the two strongest and most realistic dreams I have EVER had.

      For the second dream, the feelings that dream gave me didn't start to fade for at least 2 weeks. I mean, I remember how it felt now but I remember walking around feeling like I had JUST had the dream for 2 straight weeks!
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      To give some background information, I have known Nicky since I was 8 years old (I am 31 now). It sounds extremely cliche' but it really was love at first sight for me. I remember being frozen for a moment when my oldest sister Lynn introduced her to me. My oldest sister Lynn was Nicky's bbsitter (Nicky is only 1.5 years younger than me). It worked out so that Nicky basically lived with us for almost 4 years straight. She stayed the night over our house at least 4 days per week and also came over on fridays and saturdays too.

      During those 4 surreal years, I developed STRONG feelings for Nicky, and in hindsight, I knew I was in love with her. We wern't classic boyfriend and girlfriend but we did have a relationship with each other. We acted like we didn't like each other when our families were watching but when no one was watching we were always with each other. We always found ways to be next to each other in the car, at the dinner table, on the couch, everywhere lolololololol! Typical adolescent stuff lol!

      Anyways, she moved away right before I went to high school but our families remained close (even till this day). When I went to high school, I pushed her out of my mind because I didn't see her anymore. I suppressed my feelings for her whenever they would surface. I didn't see her again till after high school. We had basically gone different ways. HOWEVER lol, everytime I seen her, my feelings would come up FULL FORCE! And when they did, I would try to suppress them but I could tell the chemistry between us was still there and strong like it was something that had a permanent life of its own and wouldn't go away. This happened several more times over the next few years (most of my 20's).

      The thing is, when we were kids, we never actually said we liked each other, it was just always assumed because of the way we were together. So in June 2006, I had those two dreams.

      I got married when I was 24 and have two children. I LOVE my children but absolutely REGRET marrying my wife. We are just waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy to different and have some serious issues between us. We actually split up for 5 months in 2007 but got back together and tried to work it out. She and I have had problems from the start but having kids complicated things, so it is not easy to just pick up and leave. I started falling out of love with my wife as early as 2004 because of something that happened. She wasn't faithful. I tried to forgive and I did, but I cannot forget.

      There is a lot more to the story of Nicky and I and I will add on as these first two get interpreted (I really appreciate it!). In all, I have had a total of 5 super strong, vivid, and realistic dreams about Nicky. I have had many regular ones but I always ignore those. I only take note of the really powerful dreams where they seem to be reality. I've had lucid dreams too but I don't deem those important because I was controlling everything in them. But these realistic dreams leave so much of an impression on me that I actually try to get them interpreted.

      If anymore info is needed, PLEASE feel free to ask!

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      A thirty second degree Mason at 31? Wow, I thought it took longer.

      I'm going to tell you a little story. I once was on an email list, and a young woman there was talking about restringing her pendulum (something my spirit guide, Leslie, terms a "primitive divining tool"), which I gather hung from a braided string.

      I asked her why.

      She said because it kept giving her the same answer, not the answer she wanted.

      I asked her what answer it was giving her and what she'd asked it.

      She said she had been asking it whether it was okay for her to get involved with a married man, and it said no.

      So, she was going to restring it, in an attempt to get the answer she wanted!

      So, see, I know this story, and really, this story seems to apply to you, as I think perhaps you are hoping someone will interpret your dreams in such a way that you feel you have permission from a Higher Power to leave your wife and kids and marry someone else.

      Unfortunately, I am required by my guides and by the God/dess to speak the truth as I understand it to the best of my ability, and therefore cannot do that! I am not a pendulum that might give a different answer if I am restrung, and actually, neither was the spirit controlling her pendulum. I'm sure she spent all that time rebraiding her cord, only to be given the same response!

      Two wrongs don't make a right.

      It was a dark and stormy night...

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      First, I appreciate your feedback! I didn't mention that I am NOT actively trying to be with her no matter what my dreams say. I just want to know if my dreams mean anything. If my wife and I divorce, it will not be because of a few dreams I had, not to mention, Nicky is married too (not happily). O always thought if we were ever actually to get togther, it would be when we are both much older, like in our late 40's or early 50's.

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      I just want to see if my dreams are trying to tell me something or if they have meaning. Nicky and I kinda of have an understanding that should we ever both be single at the same time, we would absolutely get together. However, it would be something that naturally occured, not something forced on either end.

      About masonry, that is a common misconception lol! It takes only 2 days to get degrees 4-32 in the US. In england however, you can do one degree at a time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      I just want to see if my dreams are trying to tell me something or if they have meaning. Nicky and I kinda of have an understanding that should we ever both be single at the same time, we would absolutely get together. However, it would be something that naturally occured, not something forced on either end.

      About masonry, that is a common misconception lol! It takes only 2 days to get degrees 4-32 in the US. In england however, you can do one degree at a time.
      Well, you know, that IS strange. I would have expected degrees to be studied and learned and given one at a time! The number 32 is a symbol for completion, and is my house number, so it always attracts my attention. My stepdad was a Mason, and I was a Rainbow Girl, and my former father-in-law was a Shriner, so I'm used to Masons. I just never knew the degrees could be conferred so quickly!

      I'll take another look at the dreams with the new information, but I suspect even making like tentative future plans about what you would do if you were single, is really playing with fire a bit. Seriously. Because you need to put the energy into your family, and you and your wife need to put the children's needs first. You know that, right?

      I'm just up to my eyeballs in divorces and remarriages in my family right now, and not sure it's pretty anywhere I look. I'm concerned about two sons. one who is probably about to embark on marriage # 3 at age 36 (he and his girlfriend just had my first biological grandchild), and the other who recently divorced from an 18 year marriage and married # 2 is 40. My ex of twelve years (we did hang in there until the children were all out on their own) is already on wife # 3, whom he married less than six months after the death of wife # 2. I think they're all a bit crazy, personally. Grandchildren (all the steps and adopteds) move in and out of my life with their mothers, so I don't get attached. The world was an easier place, imo, when people stayed married and took the "'til death us do part" vows seriously.

      Anyway, let me go read them again, and I'll see if there's anything helpful.
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      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      The first dream was of wife and I. We were on the Margate-Northfield (new jersey) causeway about to cross before a big storm set in. I don't know where we were going but we were just going. We were traveling by bicycle (old, sky blue, banana seat bicycle which belonged to my oldest sister Lynn when she was young). Before we got on the causeway, wife got on the handlebars of the bike. I then began to pedal feeling how difficult it was to move forward, not because she was on the handlebars, but because of the rising floodwaters. So wife got scared and wanted to sit on the crossbar. So I stopped and she got on the crossbar. At this point, we are on the causeway and I see the Sun is about to set and the waters are getting extremely rough. The water is almost a foot off the ground that I was pedaling on. Wife then wanted to sit on the back of the seat while I pedaled onward. She adjusted and I kept going except now I was super scared because the entire causeway was underwater and it looked like I was riding a bike in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean during a huge storm! The waves were huge!

      I finally made it to the other side but when I got there something weird happened, Wife was not with me. On the other side it was dark and there were sections of bush, trees, and a badly worn road. The road was littered with what appeared to be super deep potholes filled with black water. It was very hard to navigate through the street. But once I got around the corner, I was in a parking lot with those orange, yellowish street lights. I was alone and was not worried or sad that Wife wasn't with me; it just felt weird. Then it switched to the next dream.!
      I think that the way your wife moves in front of you on the handlebars, and then behind you in the seat probably highlights a problem in your marriage. You are playing the game of "who's on top?" Only here, it's who's in front. Who's in charge? Who has the control? For a marriage to work out, she should realistically be riding her own bicycle at your side! It's a 50/50 proposition, really. Or is supposed to be. Much like your left brain (masculine side) is next to your right brain (feminine side). So, if you and your wife could figure out how to work on that, you might find it easier going.

      I'd say this game of who's in control has you fighting a lot, drowning in emotions, becoming more unconscious as it goes on. You are at sea, not on dry land. You can't keep storming at each other and expect to have a decent marriage. But you may not care about that enough to keep it from happening, as in the dream she is gone, and you don't really care so much, right? Well, because you've got someone else that you're more interested in.

      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      The next dream started with me lying (my feet were closest to the bottom of the stairs and my head was on a really comfortable pillow at the other end of the couch) on Lynn’s couch at her house (there was a gentle warm glow of white to everything, especially near the end part of the dream). Lynn was upstairs cleaning my niece's room and talking to me at the same time. An overwhelming sorrow was what I felt as I explained to Lynn my marriage's problems (I had my hands intertwined behind my head propping it up on the pillow; I was extremely comfortable). Then out of nowhere, Nicky comes walking out of my niece's room (from left to right), walks down the stairs all the while looking me in my eyes with this warming half-smile (she had on a white women's tank top and beige capris), walks over too me, lays right on top of me (she had both her arms folded with both her hands on my chest), looks me in my eyes (smiling fully now), says, "You see, if you had just told me how you felt about me when we were kids, none of this (pain I was experiencing) would have ever happened." She then closed her eyes and kissed me so softly and gently on my lips. The dream felt so real that I felt her body weight (she is about 5'3" 120lbs) and body heat on me. I even felt the softness, wetness, and warmth of her lips pressed against mine. Those were the two strongest and most realistic dreams I have EVER had.

      For the second dream, the feelings that dream gave me didn't start to fade for at least 2 weeks. I mean, I remember how it felt now but I remember walking around feeling like I had JUST had the dream for 2 straight weeks!

      This really just feels like a romantic fantasy that took hold in the dream state, and it feels like an illusion, all painted with white light that doesn't seem real, somehow, it's like those romantic photos they take and blurr them a bit to soften everything. The fact that you're both at the foot of the stairs is not a good thing, as the goal in life is to go up, not down. If you go making decisions based on this dream, then I'd worry that becoming disillusioned, which would seem to me to be inevitable, would be very destructive for all concerned. I know it's tempting... I can see that. But I think it would be a mistake that you would come to regret.

      But then, maybe the other dreams you mentioned will tell you more?

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      Thank you! I'm at work right now so I don't have time to reply in full but I will when I get home round 10:30 tonite!

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      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      Thank you! I'm at work right now so I don't have time to reply in full but I will when I get home round 10:30 tonite!
      You're welcome! I'll probably be in bed by then, but will check in tomorrow!

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      Quote Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar View Post
      I think that the way your wife moves in front of you on the handlebars, and then behind you in the seat probably highlights a problem in your marriage. You are playing the game of "who's on top?" Only here, it's who's in front. Who's in charge? Who has the control? For a marriage to work out, she should realistically be riding her own bicycle at your side! It's a 50/50 proposition, really. Or is supposed to be. Much like your left brain (masculine side) is next to your right brain (feminine side). So, if you and your wife could figure out how to work on that, you might find it easier going.

      Makes PERFECT sense and is definitely a problem.

      I'd say this game of who's in control has you fighting a lot, drowning in emotions, becoming more unconscious as it goes on. You are at sea, not on dry land. You can't keep storming at each other and expect to have a decent marriage. But you may not care about that enough to keep it from happening, as in the dream she is gone, and you don't really care so much, right? Well, because you've got someone else that you're more interested in.

      [b]Not so much. You see, I don't let my feelings for Nicky get in the way of anything going on with my wife. I've had feelings for Nicky for so long that they are almost like second nature to me if you will. So, even if I feel like I don't care sometimes, which you are right about, it is not because I don't have feelings for my wife because I have feelings for Nicky. I used to be MADLY in love with my wife for a really long time. I've known her since 1996. As far as my feelings for Nicky, I used to make them go away. But you are super correct about who is in control part.


      This really just feels like a romantic fantasy that took hold in the dream state, and it feels like an illusion, all painted with white light that doesn't seem real, somehow, it's like those romantic photos they take and blurr them a bit to soften everything. The fact that you're both at the foot of the stairs is not a good thing, as the goal in life is to go up, not down. If you go making decisions based on this dream, then I'd worry that becoming disillusioned, which would seem to me to be inevitable, would be very destructive for all concerned. I know it's tempting... I can see that. But I think it would be a mistake that you would come to regret.

      You know, I thought this too. (We weren't at the bottom of the stairs per se', I was saying that to describe the orientation of the room. We were actually on the couch. This is the way Lynn's house is set up in real life. The way I was laying on the couch, my feet were at the "stairs end" of the couch, which is how I actually lay on her couch in real life.) The soft white light was emanating from the plastic covering on her lamps which gave her house a sort of white glow. Have you ever squinted your eyes and looked at the lights in your home? Thats what it looked like. But before I reply to something you said, I'll say this. Thoughts of my dreams being fantasy/wish-fulfillment have definitely been in my head because I am a logical and skeptical person by nature. I usually dismiss most of my dreams as reflections of my daily experiences and thoughts.

      But then, maybe the other dreams you mentioned will tell you more?
      Now, to reply to going and making decisions based off that dream. Actually, two years later, in July 2008, I did just that. I saw her at a family function. We exchanged numbers, and I called her and told her how I have felt all those years. I thought she was gonna laugh at me and tell me it was all in my head but the exact opposite happened.

      Anyways, without getting into it too much here, lets just say we got to know each other again (over the phone, I was still with my wife, and she was still with her physically abusive husband). We actually grew a little closer during that time but in the end, we both decided it was better to not have our secret phone conversations like we were since we were both in really complicated situations.

      So from 2006 until recently in 2009, I hadn't had any really strong dreams about Nicky. Then BAM! I had 1 earlier this year, then 3 this month alone!

      I'll post the next dream now.

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      This dream took place on March 9th 2009.

      I was coming out of a store (It was about 5 in the evening but it was still very nice and outside like an August day), she was riding out of the same parking lot in someone else's car (2 other women in car with her, she was in back seat). She slowed down and rolled her window down. I looked over and saw her but didn't immediately recognize her because her hair was short. She smiled and nodded for me to come over to her. As I was approaching the car (car was tan), she said wow, its been a while, about a year. I said yeah, its been a good while now. She said, give me a call later tonight so we can, you know, catch up on old times and "do what we do." (She said that with a slick smile meaning she wanted to do the do lol). Then she said give me a kiss because she had to go. So I gave her a sweet and sensual kiss on the cheek, then on her lips. She said in response, you always were a good kisser (she had the look in her face and eyes like she longed for me to kiss her). I said, that's because I love you. Do you love me? She said, c'mon boy, you know I always loved you. (She said that in a tone like I shouldn't have even had to ask that question because the answer should have been surely evident to me.) Then she smiled at me and they drove off. (They turned left out of the parking lot if that means anything).

      What do you think about this one? This dream came almost 7 months after I had last spoken to her. The dream just happened out of nowhere. It was one of those dreams that were not influenced by my awake thoughts.

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      Okay, so it's evening, it's going towards getting dark, even though there's still enough light to see at that time in August. She is in the back seat, so she's not in control here, she's being carried by another woman who is driving the car, who may be an aspect of herself, but not the aspect who is speaking to you, who is in the back seat. Her hair has been cut, which can be a symbol for shame for a woman, like the way they shaved the woman's head in "The Scarlet Letter." Tan is a neutral color, not sure what that might mean. Then we have some suggestion of romance again. Left as opposed to right, often means going the *wrong* way. Like right is also opposite to wrong, see?

      Same message, imo. But you know, it's YOUR life, and your right to do what you feel you need to do, and your right to make a mistake, as long as you understand that if it is a mistake, you'll have consequences to deal with, and in a situation like this, others may as well. I warned you up front, I'm not going to play the role of telling you what you want to hear.

      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      This dream took place on March 9th 2009.

      I was coming out of a store (It was about 5 in the evening but it was still very nice and outside like an August day), she was riding out of the same parking lot in someone else's car (2 other women in car with her, she was in back seat). She slowed down and rolled her window down. I looked over and saw her but didn't immediately recognize her because her hair was short. She smiled and nodded for me to come over to her. As I was approaching the car (car was tan), she said wow, its been a while, about a year. I said yeah, its been a good while now. She said, give me a call later tonight so we can, you know, catch up on old times and "do what we do." (She said that with a slick smile meaning she wanted to do the do lol). Then she said give me a kiss because she had to go. So I gave her a sweet and sensual kiss on the cheek, then on her lips. She said in response, you always were a good kisser (she had the look in her face and eyes like she longed for me to kiss her). I said, that's because I love you. Do you love me? She said, c'mon boy, you know I always loved you. (She said that in a tone like I shouldn't have even had to ask that question because the answer should have been surely evident to me.) Then she smiled at me and they drove off. (They turned left out of the parking lot if that means anything).

      What do you think about this one? This dream came almost 7 months after I had last spoken to her. The dream just happened out of nowhere. It was one of those dreams that were not influenced by my awake thoughts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar View Post
      Okay, so it's evening, it's going towards getting dark, even though there's still enough light to see at that time in August. She is in the back seat, so she's not in control here, she's being carried by another woman who is driving the car, who may be an aspect of herself, but not the aspect who is speaking to you, who is in the back seat. Her hair has been cut, which can be a symbol for shame for a woman, like the way they shaved the woman's head in "The Scarlet Letter." Tan is a neutral color, not sure what that might mean. Then we have some suggestion of romance again. Left as opposed to right, often means going the *wrong* way. Like right is also opposite to wrong, see?

      Same message, imo. But you know, it's YOUR life, and your right to do what you feel you need to do, and your right to make a mistake, as long as you understand that if it is a mistake, you'll have consequences to deal with, and in a situation like this, others may as well. I warned you up front, I'm not going to play the role of telling you what you want to hear.
      This dream kinda tripped me out though.

      I understand when you tell me not what I want to hear. I came to this forum looking for answers. I appreciate your feedback. I knew this would partially be some of your response because you don't know the entire story. Any person hearing it told this way (in bits and pieces) would probably draw the same conclusions you are. (I won't bore you with it but if you do want to know more, I imagine you don't with all that is going on in your life, I can email or send you the whole story in a pm.) I will say though, I'm not the bad guy in my marriage. (And I don't play the victim role either.) If we hadn't had children, we would have split up YEARS ago. But love really does impair one's better sense and better judgment sometimes. Sorry if I come across as "the cheating husband" but honestly, it is not like that. Can my feelings for Nicky and my secret conversations with her be considered cheating? I guess so. I know two wrongs do not make a right but what is a person to do that feels trapped? My wife and I have been through the court system and let me tell you, its SCARY and NOT PRETTY.

      I'm not here looking for anyone's sympathy. I just need help with some dreams is all.

      Well, i'll post the next one.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      You know, I thought this too. (We weren't at the bottom of the stairs per se', I was saying that to describe the orientation of the room. We were actually on the couch. This is the way Lynn's house is set up in real life. The way I was laying on the couch, my feet were at the "stairs end" of the couch, which is how I actually lay on her couch in real life.) The soft white light was emanating from the plastic covering on her lamps which gave her house a sort of white glow. Have you ever squinted your eyes and looked at the lights in your home? Thats what it looked like. But before I reply to something you said, I'll say this. Thoughts of my dreams being fantasy/wish-fulfillment have definitely been in my head because I am a logical and skeptical person by nature. I usually dismiss most of my dreams as reflections of my daily experiences and thoughts.
      You were DOWN stairs, and she came down the stairs. You didn't need to be literally at the foot of the stairs for it to mean what I said. I understood about the lighting. They use that effect a lot to make things look a little fuzzy and romantic. Many, many dreams are wish-fulfillment, with the opposite being dreams that act out our fears. That is something Sigmund Freud taught.


      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      Now, to reply to going and making decisions based off that dream. Actually, two years later, in July 2008, I did just that. I saw her at a family function. We exchanged numbers, and I called her and told her how I have felt all those years. I thought she was gonna laugh at me and tell me it was all in my head but the exact opposite happened.
      Hoping to be rescued from the abusive husband?

      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      Anyways, without getting into it too much here, lets just say we got to know each other again (over the phone, I was still with my wife, and she was still with her physically abusive husband). We actually grew a little closer during that time but in the end, we both decided it was better to not have our secret phone conversations like we were since we were both in really complicated situations.
      Yes, I understand. But are you *thinking* about the effect of these secret conversations on your marriage? I used to watch my next door neighbor, out in his back yard, yacking on a cellphone, and wondered what was up with that. He carefully avoided the windows in the kitchen, where his wife was likely to be.

      Quote Originally Posted by 32˚ Mason View Post
      So from 2006 until recently in 2009, I hadn't had any really strong dreams about Nicky. Then BAM! I had 1 earlier this year, then 3 this month alone!

      I'll post the next dream now.
      And I'll go look at it...

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      Quote Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar View Post
      You were DOWN stairs, and she came down the stairs. You didn't need to be literally at the foot of the stairs for it to mean what I said. I understood about the lighting. They use that effect a lot to make things look a little fuzzy and romantic. Many, many dreams are wish-fulfillment, with the opposite being dreams that act out our fears. That is something Sigmund Freud taught.

      Ohhh okay! I see what you mean now. I thought you thought my feet were actually literally at the bottom of the stairs in the dream.


      Hoping to be rescued from the abusive husband?

      I don't think it had anything to do with us talking to each other per se'


      Yes, I understand. But are you *thinking* about the effect of these secret conversations on your marriage? I used to watch my next door neighbor, out in his back yard, yacking on a cellphone, and wondered what was up with that. He carefully avoided the windows in the kitchen, where his wife was likely to be.

      During this that time, my marriage was on a super downward spiral. Remember, we got back together in November 2007, and moved back in together in April 2008. It was NOT working AT ALL. Nicky wasn't on my mind or a priority at all then. Gradually from April onwards, our marriage was really terrible. In June 2008, I really started thinking about leaving again. My feelings for Nicky DID NOT influence anything or any part of my marriage during that time, or any other time.

      I love my wife, but haven't been IN love with her for years. We just are not compatible. Sounds messed up but hey, it happens and in my case, it happened for VERY good reason(s). It wasn't until the end of June that Nicky and I began talking on the phone. By that time, I had it in my mind that my marriage was going to end and I was planning on how best to leave.




      And I'll go look at it...
      My replies are in bold.

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