Thread: Burned up dreams

Originally Posted by raklet

Sorry to hear about your Father-In-Law. Best Wishes.

Thanks Raklet.

Originally Posted by raklet

Great job on that airport bit. Makes me a bit angry that you don't even try for lucidity and you have great lucids, yet I bust my butt for it and it never happens!

I've only had 2 or 3 in the last few weeks and those have only lasted seconds. But yes, I'm happy with what happened. What I can't do is induce lucids. Well, I keep forgetting to do RCs irl so that doesn't help.

Originally Posted by raklet

How come your most recent dreams don't have any interpretations to them? I like that as much as the dreams themselves.

Originally Posted by Sara

@Raklet: I think Bu's interpretation is still on the train in France

I went on strike when I had a series of crap dreams. I've added interpretations to a couple lately but now I find my time online has got squeezed out by other events. Keep watching this space Raklet, I'm happy that you like reading the interpretations.

Originally Posted by Sara

You had some pretty crazy dreams :-)

Yes they have been rather mad.

Originally Posted by Sara

I dunno, but that sounds like your brain processing someone's death. Gone to another dimension...

Originally Posted by mark

I bet that was a disturbing dream and I bet you were glad to wake from that one to.

In a way it sounds like poltergeist where the little girl gets sucked into another dimension

Yes, it was like that. Maybe it was about death. But it was also about being there yet not being there. Strange. But C irl does go off in sulks and it kind of feels like that sometimes.

Originally Posted by Sara

Haha, sounds like a typical chinese serving: always WAY too much for 1 person...

And an hour later you're hungry again

Originally Posted by Sara

You have anything against this person IRL?

Originally Posted by mark

ha ha ha thats brilliant! there is always something funny about someone getting hit in the balls lol

D and I get on fine. He gives the impression of being a bit of a fall guy and things do "happen" to him. I think that's what was resonating in the dream.

Still funny though

Originally Posted by mark

thats nice, it is always good to have someone like that....is he that way in real life?

Yes, he's probably the most "touchy feely" man I know. Always shows an interest and patience. Haven't seen him for a while. Perhaps I'll get in touch...

Not good recall. I woke in the night but dreamed I wrote down the dream

I know I dreamed about my Attachment Theory tutor though.

Originally Posted by Burned up

Not good recall. I woke in the night but dreamed I wrote down the dream

I know I dreamed about my Attachment Theory tutor though.

shame about the lack of recall, there is nothing more annoying then dreaming of writing dreams....so annoying in the morning

Attachment Theory? would it be a pain in the arse if I asked what this is?

Five nil

I was playing football at a high level. I had a position in front of goal but I'm not sure if I was a forward or a goalie as my role seemed to change.

"And you'd congratulate Craig Gordon"

Said someone. (He's a Scottish goalie currently playing for Sunderland near where Mark comes from).

"We are countrymen" (dunno why but that's what my notes read)

We were already 4-0 up and I had scored one of the goals. Now I see that two of my team are passing the ball to each other at close range. I sense that one player - a large young man with fair hair who I think is Carrot from the Terry Pratchett books - is about to shoot. I casually move away from the goal mouth just as he hammers the ball into the net. Seemingly my decoy was important and I was part of that amazing goal. 5-0.

Another football dream. As common as train dreams now. 5 must be important. Not a number I really dream about. 4 is more likely.

Cool, football dreams. I bet they are more exciting than train dreams!
Do you play football IRL?

Bu is an excellent foot-ball player.

Originally Posted by Sara

Cool, football dreams. I bet they are more exciting than train dreams!
Do you play football IRL?

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Bu is an excellent foot-ball player.

Yes they are more exciting than train dreams but no, I don't play football irl. Not really sure of the significance for me either.

Fragments

- I was making a phone call from a large dealing-room type of office. But I could hear the phone ringing in a meeting room next door and realised something was wrong with the phone system. Suddenly MC, an ex-colleague who was also ex-army grabs the handset and does various tests on it as if it were about to explode.

- Standing at the edge of a social room as people were forming a circle. I was inn a group talking but wondered about joining the circle. Then everyone held hands and started chanting ava nagila, ava nagila. I wished I was there holding hands with people.

- I was doing my best to avoid an ex-girlfriend. At the same time I was making sure I had some condoms with me as I was going to visit her. This was apparently OK by my wife!

Originally Posted by Burned up

Fragments

- I was making a phone call from a large dealing-room type of office. But I could hear the phone ringing in a meeting room next door and realised something was wrong with the phone system. Suddenly MC, an ex-colleague who was also ex-army grabs the handset and does various tests on it as if it were about to explode.

he he thats random lol cool stuff I wounder how the rest of that dream would have worked out

Originally Posted by Burned up

- Standing at the edge of a social room as people were forming a circle. I was inn a group talking but wondered about joining the circle. Then everyone held hands and started chanting ava nagila, ava nagila. I wished I was there holding hands with people.

ok I have no idea what that chant means lol, so do you think this is one of those dreams were you are excluded from everthing? I have those they are not nice

Originally Posted by Burned up

- I was doing my best to avoid an ex-girlfriend. At the same time I was making sure I had some condoms with me as I was going to visit her. This was apparently OK by my wife!

he he dream logic again! do you tell your wife these dreams at all?

Originally Posted by Burned up

ava nagila, ava nagila

What is that?

Originally Posted by Burned up

- I was doing my best to avoid an ex-girlfriend. At the same time I was making sure I had some condoms with me as I was going to visit her. This was apparently OK by my wife!

Oh sure you were trying to avoid her.

Originally Posted by mark

he he thats random lol cool stuff I wounder how the rest of that dream would have worked out

No idea. Nor what came before that fragment.

Originally Posted by raklet

What is that?

Originally Posted by mark

ok I have no idea what that chant means lol, so do you think this is one of those dreams were you are excluded from everthing? I have those they are not nice

I think it's more to do with missing out than being excluded. If I'd only get up of my backside and join in then I'd share the fun. But I wasn't brave enough/bothered enough.

I don't know what the chant means either but it's from (I believe) Jewish culture. IIRC it's a part favourite and was at the start of oe of those Vietnam films - Deer Hunter I think. You'd know it if you heard it - kind of goes faster and faster. Lots on Google if you're interested.

Originally Posted by mark

he he dream logic again! do you tell your wife these dreams at all?

I think I'll keep that one to myself

Originally Posted by raklet

Oh sure you were trying to avoid her.

Haven't seen her for nearly 20 years. But the conflict was like that for me at the time. I wanted to finish with her (and eventually did) but at the same time she was all I had. I also went back to her briefly after we (I) ended and I think the dream recalls those mixed-up feelings.

Dr Who type dream

I'm in this house which can travel through time and space. There's a Dr Who type character in control and others are around (although it feels like multiple facets of me in hindsight). This house is very large and old, like an old country house.

Anyway we land in this car park in current time/place. Then when we get out of the house it shrinks to the size of a large dolls' house. We now have to take it back to a museum where it is kept, and the chap in charge leads the way. It takes 4 of us to carry it.

The purpose of our missions is to end racism and apartheid, apparently.

We then have a meal together which I make out of children's clothes
(Kind of stirring them together in a pot).


Text and image analysis

Not sure where I am or who I'm with but it feels academic. We've all been given some sections of text and some pictures. Our task is to identify which of these samples has evidence of the presence of two rivers.

All I recall is looking at all these picture cards, about the size of large postcards, and not finding any rivers at all. Also of being daunted by the quantity of these cards to get through.

The first dream is the more entertaining and the harder to interpret. It's probably to do with wanting someone else - a God-like character - to define my purpose in life. IRL I easily get seduced by charismatic people who I think will fill that role although now I'm more aware of that pattern of behaviour I tend not to act on it. My theology isn't one that has God in that role either - I believe it's up to each of us to make our own decisions about life and we can choose to involve God or not. But somewhere inside me is this internalised "captain of the ship". A little PDP here too as a client of mine was talking about this stuff yesterday.

The second dream is surely evoked by the work I'm doing for my MSc. Lots of analysis etc. In terms of my internal world it evokes a child-like feeling of being unable to understand what's going on in the world and what I'm being asked to do. A feeling of not being very clever I suppose.

Originally Posted by Burned up

Dr Who type dream

cool dr who dream mate!

lol I laughed at the cooking the kids clothing another good example of dream logic there eh

hmm interesting interpretation there to, so do you think this is like your inner alpha male sort of thing

Originally Posted by Burned up

Text and image analysis

The second dream is surely evoked by the work I'm doing for my MSc. Lots of analysis etc. In terms of my internal world it evokes a child-like feeling of being unable to understand what's going on in the world and what I'm being asked to do. A feeling of not being very clever I suppose.

I hate that feeling! still I imagine that would be a common feeling for someone with that amount of work to do (especially on your course)

Originally Posted by Burned up

In terms of my internal world it evokes a child-like feeling of being unable to understand what's going on in the world and what I'm being asked to do. A feeling of not being very clever I suppose.

Yea I know how you feel. A common dream feeling and sometimes IRL too.

Originally Posted by Burned up

The second dream is surely evoked by the work I'm doing for my MSc.

Sorry to sound dumb, but what is MSc? Do you really feel about yourself that you are not that clever? If so, I would find that an interesting feeling, because from my perspective you seem to be quite clever. Strange how our personal opinions of ourself rarely match up to those of other people.

Originally Posted by raklet

Sorry to sound dumb, but what is MSc? Do you really feel about yourself that you are not that clever? If so, I would find that an interesting feeling, because from my perspective you seem to be quite clever. Strange how our personal opinions of ourself rarely match up to those of other people.

MSc is a Master of Science Degree and I totally agree with what you say raklet

Originally Posted by mark

cool dr who dream mate!

lol I laughed at the cooking the kids clothing another good example of dream logic there eh

hmm interesting interpretation there to, so do you think this is like your inner alpha male sort of thing

Yeah the alpha male sort of thing. I'm not really like that irl although I perhaps feel I should be sometimes.

Originally Posted by mark

I hate that feeling! still I imagine that would be a common feeling for someone with that amount of work to do (especially on your course)

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Yea I know how you feel. A common dream feeling and sometimes IRL too.

I think it is a common dream feeling too. Like the usual turning up for exams having not done the work feeling.

Originally Posted by raklet

Sorry to sound dumb, but what is MSc? Do you really feel about yourself that you are not that clever? If so, I would find that an interesting feeling, because from my perspective you seem to be quite clever. Strange how our personal opinions of ourself rarely match up to those of other people.

Originally Posted by mark

MSc is a Master of Science Degree and I totally agree with what you say raklet

The MSc is a challenge because it's an area of study which is fairly new to me. It's more like studying English - something I barely managed back at school. But thanks for the complement Raklet. It's easy to come across as an expert in a narrow field but feel totally inadequate in the great world of academia.

Plane crashes into home. Maybe.

I was standing by the water one night, watching the planes flying over the city and landing at the airport across the other side. I was watching one plane in particular. It was an older type like a 1960s Viscount or something. As it crossed the city it seemed to slow and lose power. It fell down and as it crashed I saw a streak of flames on the near horizon.

I said to myself "it must have hit the hills at the back". In fact I kind of knew it probably hit my home but it was like I'd prefer not to think about that and stay cool.

I saw all power was now lost in the city. There were no lights or anything.

Now I was at the airport, which also had no power. I was with a girl I fancied in my school days. She looked great and had a nice tan. Across the way was a boy from school doing some work. He was popular with the girls and good at sport (i.e. not like me at all!).

I went outside and saw 3 white buses waiting to take people away. I was waiting to get on the second one which for a moment looked like the old aircraft that crashed - complete with propellers etc before being a bus again.

Flying over the common

I was looking at a website with my son about the village I lived in as a child. The site was mainly about the hotel which was built by converting an old house - probably the largest in the village - which stood on the edge of some common land (some of which was a golf course). (All this is true irl too). As the picture moved across the screen I was able to see further. I explained to my son how it was near where Winnie the Pooh was set (true irl) and we could see some of the features which are shown in his books.

Now I'm walking across the common along a wide footpath in a straight line. The footpath starts to go downhill and I can see a farm at the bottom perhaps a mile away. I walk faster and break into a run and think "this is perfect for flying". So my feet leave the ground and I'm flying horizontally. I'm also on the verge of waking up and as much as I try and resist, the scene fades I'm more aware that I'm horizontal in my bed.

Fragments

- Sitting at a small square table next to s small young dark-haired woman. I put my arm around her and kiss her on the head. She looks like one of my daughter's friends and also like an old flame from 20 years ago but I don't really know who she was.

- In a small group at uni. Only 2 people plus 2 tutors have turned up from a role of around 25. Many haven't bothered because they have an essay to hand in the following day. The main tutor (L) is late and another (J) has taken her place in the meantime. Then a third student (A) turns up too. I scramble for my course handbook as I'm worried about my own assignment deadlines.

I guess the plane crash is significant. One dd suggests

Airplane Crash
To dream that a plane crashes, suggests that you have set overly high and unrealistic goals for yourself. Your goals may be too high and are impossible to realize. You are in danger of having it come crashing down. Alternatively, your lack of confidence, self-defeating attitude and self-doubt toward the goals you have set for yourself is represented by the crashing airplane; you do not believe in your ability to attain those goals. Loss of power and uncertainty in achieving your goals are also signified.

www.dreamviews.com

But neither of those explanations seem to quite do it for me. The lack of confidence is perhaps the closest to what I think it means, which is that I have invoked a feeling of failure from the past. The age of the plane suggests it's an old feeling or perhaps an old goal in life. The plane wasn't up for the job of flying. I am feeling overburdened with things to do just now so perhaps I shouldn't be too surprised at this dream.

The bit about it perhaps hitting my house and me not facing that fact sounds like I'm avoiding dealing with the consequences of facing my own "collapse".

The 3 white buses sound rather spiritual - like the 3 witches or something. Interesting as to why I'm attaching myself to the middle one. Like it's the least significant or something.

The other dreams were lie-in snoozes and I don't attach too much significance to their meanings. Doubt if there was much buried deep in my unconscious that was coming to awareness.

Originally Posted by Burned up

- Sitting at a small square table next to s small young dark-haired woman. I put my arm around her and kiss her on the head.

Uh-oh, cheating on your usual tall blonde DC-GF!

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Uh-oh, cheating on your usual tall blonde DC-GF!

Oh she won't mind. She accepts me how I am and will probably be very pleased for me

You have a good memory of my DJ Moonbeam

Originally Posted by Burned up

Oh she won't mind. She accepts me how I am and will probably be very pleased for me

Oh, she's open-minded, just like my DC's.

Originally Posted by Burned up

You have a good memory of my DJ Moonbeam

I always think that about other people with my DJ, especially Caradon--he's always coming up with some long-forgotten dream of mine! I guess certain things catch your attention in other people's journals.

Originally Posted by Burned up

Plane crashes into home. Maybe.

kinf of cool dream there mate! sounds almost action packed and it would have been good had it not crashed into your house

Originally Posted by Burned up

Flying over the common

nice one on the flying mate, do you think you had some kind of lucidity when you were fighting to keep the dream?

Originally Posted by Burned up

Fragments

he he that fragment and moonbeams comment made me laugh ha

Originally Posted by Burned up

but feel totally inadequate in the great world of academia.

Don't feel bad. I would have to say that is about, oh, 100% of the population. There is just too much knowledge out there to know everything. That is why people get degrees in specific fields - so they can be an expert and clever about something.

Originally Posted by mark

Attachment Theory? would it be a pain in the arse if I asked what this is?

Not at all. It's based around the idea that we as humans develop empathy etc with others in the early years of our lives. This sets us up for relationships later in life. If our primary carer(s) weren't attuned to us then we over-regulate our emotions and find relationships hard and unfulfilling. If they were too responsive (i.e. didn't allow us to learn through small amounts of discomfort) then we under-regulate and become too emotional. These are insecure attachments. Ideally we'd have secure attachments because we've learned to empathise with others in the way our carer(s) did with us.

Also deals with loss, and how we grieve etc. i.e. no loss without prior attachment.

Loads of stuff on the internet.

Originally Posted by mark

nice one on the flying mate, do you think you had some kind of lucidity when you were fighting to keep the dream?

Yes, probably. But I didn't really feel in control of the dream in any other way.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by raklet

Don't feel bad. I would have to say that is about, oh, 100% of the population. There is just too much knowledge out there to know everything. That is why people get degrees in specific fields - so they can be an expert and clever about something.

The trouble with learning at a uni is that the people assessing you really do know more about the subject than you do. In something like counselling, which values equality, humanity etc etc this seems rather ironic.

I like to remind myself that everyone is an expert at their own life experiences.