Thread: This needs to be a sticky.

The "reason" that works is because it keeps you from thinking of other things while keeping your intention to remember dreams. It's much more effective to just focus on thinking about your dreams and then writing them down.

When it worked for you, did you actually wake up after a dream and remember it, or did it just come back to you in the morning?

You've probably 'hooked' or 'linked' this action to Lucid Dreaming. Sort of like hypnotists who can 'hook' the clicking of a finger to falling into a beta-state of awareness, forgetting something like a fear or even get a 300 pound guy go hopping around like a cute lil bunny rabbit. So well done, you've just given yourself a well good short-cut.

I'd say most of it is psychological, although I can't yet know for sure. In basic human behaviour, if you believe something will work, it will (along the lines of reality). For example if I find some incredible medicine (that may not actually do anything) and I'm convinced of the fact that it will cure my cold, my motivated thoughts may actually help my physical recovery.

But hey, who knows, maybe it's worth a go. I'll try it sometime and post some results.

Originally posted by ataraxis
The \"reason\" that works is because it keeps you from thinking of other things while keeping your intention to remember dreams. It's much more effective to just focus on thinking about your dreams and then writing them down.

Why did you put reason in quotes?

You are wrong. I have tried many things before this, such as "Ohm" and "I will recall and wake up after every dream.". Also, I have tried focusing on my breathing. None of that worked, but on the second night of repeating the above phrases, I had dream recall that was better than my old recall 20x.

Sure it may be a placebo, but if it works, who cares.

P.S. I doubt it is a placebo, I didn't think it would work when I tried it, but it did. If I'm correct, a placebo is something you think will work.

Well, who knows, maybe my subconcious thought it would work?

Please people, just try it and see how it works for you, it can only help.

Originally posted by CalmoftheEye


Why did you put reason in quotes?

I don't know...

You are wrong. I have tried many things before this, such as \"Ohm\" and \"I will recall and wake up after every dream.\". Also, I have tried focusing on my breathing. None of that worked, but on the second night of repeating the above phrases, I had dream recall that was better than my old recall 20x.[/b]

I believe it mainly has to do with you trying something new. What you are suggesting is like saying that reality checks are better than MILD, MILD is better than WILD, and WILD is more effective than hypnosis. Some things work better for others.

Please point out where I said I use this to attain lucidity.

Originally posted by CalmoftheEye
Please point out where I said I use this to attain lucidity.

*like* I said it's LIKE saying that. One method of inducing lucidity is better for one person but another one may be better for another person. Dream recall techniques is just like this, different things work for different people. Please read carefully before jumping on certain parts of my posts (that weren't actually there).

Um, if it's not a placebo, then what do you think it is? RAOM and GAOM? That sounds like a monkey on LSD, how do you conclude that it's not placebo? Do you think you just found some magical phrase that inherently works for everybody just because of it's sound? Guess what... your phrases are totally random. I might just as well make up some other stupid-sounding phrase and have success with it in some aspect of life. That's not a reason to post this phrase on the forum because it doesn't have any objective value.

lol... well, sorry if I'm coming off as billigerent, I'm just saying it is silly to say that one random phrase is superior over all others and it is the best dream recall method. It would probably be more effective to post saying that you should say random phrases (those working for you very well) before and after saying your intention.

Saying something is the best is an opinion. It has always been an opinion and always will be. It is the best technique because I think this technique works, and it has worked for others, therefor it should be included in a tutorial. The purpose of adding this to a tutorial is to give someone more options.

Sorry if "sticky" confused anyone.

The whole purpose of making this thread was to get the word out about this technique.

I don't see why you are attacking my beliefs on this technique.

Originally posted by CalmoftheEye
Saying something is the best is an opinion. It has always been an opinion and always will be. It is the best technique because I think this technique works, and it has worked for others, therefor it should be included in a tutorial. The purpose of adding this to a tutorial is to give someone more options.

Sorry if "sticky" confused anyone.

The whole purpose of making this thread was to get the word out about this technique.

I don't see why you are attacking my beliefs on this technique.

Ignore him...he does that to everyone (in every thread either beyond dreaming, or senseless, he is always picking a fight on us....I don't know if he is doing it to be mean, or if he is doing it to be silly). He's just being a bit of a bully is all...
I was wondering if it had to do w/Meditating or hypnosis at all? It is sure is an interesting technique you have on there, though.

Originally posted by CalmoftheEye
The whole purpose of making this thread was to get the word out about this technique.

Yes, but there already is a topic just like this: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25312 Anyways... I´ll probably try this technique out tonight.

Originally posted by nesgirl119


Ignore him...he does that to everyone (in every thread either beyond dreaming, or senseless, he is always picking a fight on us....I don't know if he is doing it to be mean, or if he is doing it to be silly). He's just being a bit of a bully is all...
I was wondering if it had to do w/Meditating or hypnosis at all? It is sure is an interesting technique you have on there, though.

I was just saying it is silly to say something is the absolute best random phrase . The way it was stated was as if it was fact and it's the best. I don't want beginners to come in here and start something like this becuase they think it's somehow better than another technique when it's just a random word.

How do youk now RAOM GAOM is a random phrase? You think that just because it sounds like one.

It could have been very carefully crafted, not just pulled out of someones ass.

Originally posted by CalmoftheEye
How do youk now RAOM GAOM is a random phrase? You think that just because it sounds like one.

It could have been very carefully crafted, not just pulled out of someones ass.

For one there is no way to know how to "craft" a word that induces dream recall like that, because I am 99.99% sure that you have not done scientific studies by observaing the brain on how letters and certain combinations of letters (as well as how you say them) affect the brain. Second of all, you implied that you have tried many other words... showing you come up with random words.

Originally posted by ataraxis


For one there is no way to know how to "craft" a word that induces dream recall like that, because I am 99.99% sure that you have not done scientific studies by observaing the brain on how letters and certain combinations of letters (as well as how you say them) affect the brain. *Second of all, you implied that you have tried many other words... showing you come up with random words.

Well, I found your problem. You think I made up the words.

Wrong, try agian.

What then, you used some "meditative phrases" you found off the net? No real difference.

Why don't you google it and find out?

Does it really matter? As long as it works, it doesn't to me.

IMO, I don't think this would work for me, but then again, I can't honestly say that without trying it for myself. If it works for you then that's great, I don't see the problem with that.

Well i note that they both end in M which is the most common for meditative mantra, For it is a relaxing sound.

I agree with Ataraxis 100% on this one. Just because out of nowhere you found these two phrases that happened to work for you on just ONE NIGHT! You could've at least had the patience to try this technique out several times before insisting that it's "the best" and should be part of the tutorial. I've never used any phrases whatsoever and I remember at least two dreams a night. Like Ataraxis said, just because it's the best for you doesn't mean it will work at all for others.

Ataraxis--how about actually trying it instead of just claiming it doesn't work? there is enough anecdotal evidence easily obtainable that it is POSSIBLE that this phrase has some sort of special power. you are invalidating something you have absolutely no knowledge about, and that's just foolish. i think the fact that mantras have existed for thousands of years is probably a pretty good indication that they are useful beyond the placebo effect. give it a try before you say it's stupid.