My Mom Thinks I'm Going To Be A Drug Addict

[ilovefrootloopz]

Most people are saying, "OMG I just had this wicked awsome vivid dream omg." About how it is realer than real life, how amazing it is, how it's thrilling. My dreams are not like this. They are mostly dull, temperatureless, airless, and ugly. I've tried rubbing my hands together, nothing happens or I get a false awakening. Looking at my hands... well they aren't there. Shouting out increase lucidity or vividness.... nothing. I'm desperate to just experience ONE vivid dream. Lucid or not. (Of course preferably lucid). What is one way to get one vivid dream, hopefully? B6. So, my mom has the B-vitamin suppliments with 100 mg of B6, and a bunch of other B's. I asked my mom if I could have one. She asked why. I said because it makes your dreams more real. She flipped over, yelled at me, and thought this was the beggining of me taking drugs. (I've never done drugs before, heck I've never even taken a pill lol). I told her it wasn't, and I asked for just one. She yelled at me and said no! And then she told my dad who thinks I have problems now as well.... Is there anyway to convince her that one little pill is fine? Or is there an alternative to B6?

[badassbob]

She won't let you take a vitamin? You should show her round this site to prove to her that B6 is safe and lots of people use it without suffering any damaging effects as a result.

[dreammask]

I told her it wasn't, and I asked for just one. She yelled at me and said no! And then she told my dad who thinks I have problems now as well.... Is there anyway to convince her that one little pill is fine? Or is there an alternative to B6? [/b] How ridiculous. Well, you could go about it the sarcastic way and say you're going to start popping vitamins EVERY DAY! Oh no! You might actually get healthy! :gasp: Or you could go the sneaky way and go buy your own vitamins... there's no rules against getting your own, even if you're a minor, as I'm guessing you are since you didn't just go buy some of your own. They're not dangerous, so nobody's going to stop you. It might be amusing, however, to be hiding your stash of multivitamins from your parents. I can't help but laugh. It's so ridiculous. You could pull the hypocrisy card and ask why she can take them but you can't. Is she taking them so she feels better? Well, isn't that what drugs do to you? Well, then why is she being a hypocrite and saying you can't have them when if nothing else, they'll be really good for you regardless of why you're taking them. You could also find information on the benefits of taking vitamins at your age, print them out, and give them to your parents. Make them feel like they're denying you something obviously beneficial. You could also look into what kinds of foods have a lot of B6 in them and eat a lot of it. I can't imagine that your parents will approve of much else in the way of dream-enhancing supplements if they won't approve of B6 even when they take it themselves. Your best bet is probably to tell them you've been studying vitamins and think you should take them to be healthier. If they won't buy that, then look into what foods have B6 and put them on the grocery list. Or go buy some of the stuff yourself. It's just such stupid reasoning. I'd argue it from a scientific and health-based standpoint. If that doesn't work, call them on their hypocrisy.

[Merlock]

Don't take B6. Just start taking a multi-vitamin complex and combine it with memory training. That's the best way to train dream recall. If any parent would be against multi-vitamins...then I don't think the Pope himself would be able to help there.

[Oneironaut Zero]

She won't let you take a vitamin? You should show her round this site to prove to her that B6 is safe and lots of people use it without suffering any damaging effects as a result. [/b] Or tell her not to be so ignorant and actually do a little research on it before she accuses you of becoming a drug addict. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B6 Then call her a drug-addicted hypocrite for keeping around multivitamins that have a lot more in them than B-6. Haha.

[badassbob]

Then call her a drug-addicted hypocrite for keeping around multivitamins that have a lot more in them than B-6. Haha. [/b] That's a good point, how can she call megabenman a drug addict when she's the one who keeps the stuff?

[ilovefrootloopz]

Thanks for the amazingly fast replies. If she doesn't let me, I'll take a little bike ride to shoppers drug mart or something and see if they have any there. (I know for a fact that they have them at my mom's favourite health store, Well Well Well, but the owner would probably tell my mom that I was there ). Lol you're right, it will be fun hiding the "stash." She isn't really skeptical about the taking of B6, its more the amount. She said for me to take these stupid children supliments with a lot of vitamins. I told her it wasn't enough because they only had 1 mg of B6, and I needed 100ish. Well, she thought I was trying to overdose on vitamins lol. Oneironaut and badassbob, you're right, I should tell her about her little vitamin suplliment pills. They've got 100 mg of B6, and 100 mg of a crap load of other vitamins. Thanks.

[Merlock]

I'm telling you; you don't need 100 mg of B6. Dreams can be extremely vivid through training. Don't try to take the swifter way at it. It's much more rewarding to train recall yourself.

[ilovefrootloopz]

Then will 50 mg be ok? I'm not trying to take the swift way, I'm just anxious to have just ONE vivid dream. But can you give me a link on how to make dreams more vivid through training? Belive me I don't care how hard it is, as long as it doesn't make you do something while falling asleep (my mind needs to wander while falling asleep so I can't do stuff like suggestions).

[bobvilax2000]

Don't take B6. Just start taking a multi-vitamin complex and combine it with memory training. That's the best way to train dream recall. If any parent would be against multi-vitamins...then I don't think the Pope himself would be able to help there. [/b] You know, I've been taking multi-vitamins for almost two weeks now for reasons that I won't go into, but with just the recommended daily doses of vitamins not only did I improve on what I wanted, but I've also been noticing more vividness in my dreams. It's not instant, but it's beneficial to your overall health AND recall gradually improves NATURALLY. This is a good suggestion, Merlock.

[Merlock]

Right but it's not just the vitamins alone. That much more vividness is achieved through memory training. The recipe together is simple: Take regular multi-vitamins and train your memory. Memory training isn't tough and it doesn't have to be intense. Just take several times throughout the day to think back throughout that current day. Remember as much as you can in as much detail as possible of what you've been doing all the way up to the morning when you woke up. Also! This is a quality reality check, as stated in LaBerge's book since checking what you've been doing lately can often make you realize you're dreaming. Thus, as you see, such training would not only allow for more vivid dreams (as I've achieved this way) but will also allow you to get a reality check into habit (since you want more vivid dreams I'm sure you won't forget to do this).

[ilovefrootloopz]

Thanks I'll do the memory training. I only did that as I reality check in my second lucid dream... it proved I was dreaming though, but it was too much of a pain to do it instead of the nose rc. But thanks, I'll do that as much as I can. As for the vitamin suppliments, what do you think I should have? What size of the vitamins?

[Merlock]

Just a regular multi-vitamin complex. A completely general one. Not orientated onto any vitamin group. For instance, there are multi-vitamin complexes with additional B6 but if you mention you want that it'll be the same old story, hahah. So just get a regular multi-vitamin complex at the phramacy. Whichever one they give you when you ask for one. I suppose aiming for a middle price is a good idea. So as to get good quality vitamins.

[John Updike]

man, is your mom a DARE officer something? I say you murder her in her sleep, all the cool kids are doing it.

[ilovefrootloopz]

man, is your mom a DARE officer something? I say you murder her in her sleep, all the cool kids are doing it. [/b] No.. she's just paranoid as hell. She once said to me "Your life doesn't being until the day I die" half jokingly. I don't know why she is so paranoid, but other than that she is a great mom. It's just not letting me to some things that can be annoying.

[mountain]

Most people are saying, "OMG I just had this wicked awsome vivid dream omg." About how it is realer than real life, how amazing it is, how it's thrilling. My dreams are not like this. They are mostly dull, temperatureless, airless, and ugly. I've tried rubbing my hands together, nothing happens or I get a false awakening. Looking at my hands... well they aren't there. Shouting out increase lucidity or vividness.... nothing. I'm desperate to just experience ONE vivid dream. Lucid or not. (Of course preferably lucid). What is one way to get one vivid dream, hopefully? B6. So, my mom has the B-vitamin suppliments with 100 mg of B6, and a bunch of other B's. I asked my mom if I could have one. She asked why. I said because it makes your dreams more real. She flipped over, yelled at me, and thought this was the beggining of me taking drugs. (I've never done drugs before, heck I've never even taken a pill lol). I told her it wasn't, and I asked for just one. She yelled at me and said no! And then she told my dad who thinks I have problems now as well.... Is there anyway to convince her that one little pill is fine? Or is there an alternative to B6? [/b] pah u shuda just stolen it... How ridiculous. Well, you could go about it the sarcastic way and say you're going to start popping vitamins EVERY DAY! Oh no! You might actually get healthy! :gasp: Or you could go the sneaky way and go buy your own vitamins... there's no rules against getting your own, even if you're a minor, as I'm guessing you are since you didn't just go buy some of your own. They're not dangerous, so nobody's going to stop you. It might be amusing, however, to be hiding your stash of multivitamins from your parents. I can't help but laugh. It's so ridiculous. You could pull the hypocrisy card and ask why she can take them but you can't. Is she taking them so she feels better? Well, isn't that what drugs do to you? Well, then why is she being a hypocrite and saying you can't have them when if nothing else, they'll be really good for you regardless of why you're taking them. You could also find information on the benefits of taking vitamins at your age, print them out, and give them to your parents. Make them feel like they're denying you something obviously beneficial. You could also look into what kinds of foods have a lot of B6 in them and eat a lot of it. I can't imagine that your parents will approve of much else in the way of dream-enhancing supplements if they won't approve of B6 even when they take it themselves. Your best bet is probably to tell them you've been studying vitamins and think you should take them to be healthier. If they won't buy that, then look into what foods have B6 and put them on the grocery list. Or go buy some of the stuff yourself. It's just such stupid reasoning. I'd argue it from a scientific and health-based standpoint. If that doesn't work, call them on their hypocrisy. [/b] i hate to disagree with such a well presented argument but he is wrong. hes advising u to try and use reason with ur mother when this is actually the last thing u want to do. people like ur mother (no offense) are narrowminded and will not be persuaded by reason, facts, or intelligent advice. saying no its really healthy it wont hurt u will not change her mind because she is an idiot. yeeeeesss mother vitamins area stepping stone drug. yeeeees u better lock up the flintstones tablets in the cabinet. yeeeeesss. even if she could be persuaded to see reason, the way u rite about her strikes me as someone who would not be able to admit they were wrong even if they realized they were. i wouldnt even steal some now because the crazy lady will probably check. just buy some at the store. u dont need a licence. why? BECAUSE THEYRE VITAMINS!

[ilovefrootloopz]

The no license applies in Canada, right?

[mountain]

The no license applies in Canada, right? [/b] dude like i just said... there vitamins. like the flintstones see? thats like requiring a licence to buy laundry detergent. now i dont live in canada so i cant be exactly sure... but 90-95% sure.

[DuB]

hes advising u to try and use reason with ur mother when this is actually the last thing u want to do.[/b] I agree. Parents in general don't usually respond to this. It becomes more of a dominance issue... ya know, you challenging their word and all, as stupid as that is. The sad truth is that once they've put their foot down, they're probably not going to budge on the subject. And they probably won't appreciate you trying. But anyway, I have to side with Merlock on this issue. It's best to accomplish this goal on your own. You don't want vitamins to be your "crutch" for having good dreams. And besides, following his advice will improve your memory and your overall physical health, so you'll benefit around the clock, not just when sleeping .

[27]

Merlock, what worked for you may not work for everyone. I'm thinking of getting some B6 because my dreams are so hazy and boring its hard to remember anything. Dont wory about getting a licence or perscription, its very safe. You should be careful though, taking to much can be harmful.

[ilovefrootloopz]

How much is too much? 50-100 mg once a week?

[DuB]

How much is too much? 50-100 mg once a week?[/b] More and more studies are indicating that taking more than 50mg of B6 per day for an extended period of time can lead to nerve damage in the arms and legs (although this damage is typically reversible if you stop taking B6). And definitely do not exceed 100mg per day. 50-100mg once a week is just fine. Although I still recommend following Merlock's advice.

[imaginefication]

I don't trust synthetic nutrients, so I can't recommend this, but one way to get synthetic b6, that your parents can't object to, is breakfast cereal. Nearly every brand of breakfast cereal contains a ridiculous amount of synthetic nutrients, many people get sick because they eat cereal while also taking a multivitamin and end up greatly exceeding the RDA of several nutrients to the point they get serious symptoms. I recommend just eating whole foods and keep practicing techniques, WBTB is what really helped me.

[ilovefrootloopz]

Ok thanks DuB. And imaginefication, isn't the reccomended daily intake something like 2mg? That's the problem though, because normal foods don't contain anywhere near 100 mg. Like a banana.

[imaginefication]

Although it might have an instant effect, in the long run, I doubt the benefit and safety of consuming more than 2mg a day of B6, especially when it is synthetic. "The toxicity of vitamin B-6 is extremely low. Sleepiness may follow an injection of large doses (100 milligrams). Extremely large (200 mg) doses may result in nerve ending damage in certain individuals." However, as you see above, B6 is not very toxic so exceeding the RDA may not cause damage. But with some minerals and the vitamins A, D, and E, you can easily damage yourself by taking more than the RDA. That is why you should be careful if you take a multivitamin because its easy to overdose since lots of processed foods already contain high amounts of synthetic nutrients and some whole foods have a high amount of a specific nutrient, for example Brazil Nuts contain tons Selenium, you would not want to eat them if you are taking a multivitamin that contains Selenium. Though many foods have synthetic nutrients, for whatever reason, Breakfast cereal is the most synthetically fortified food, nearly every breakfast cereal contains 25%-100% of the RDA of most vitamins plus several minerals in synthetic form. If you take a multivitamin you should avoid fortified cereals, or vice versa. I think it is likely synthetic nutrients are causing more health problems in America then they are preventing.