Session Start: Wed Aug 04 17:52:39 2010
Session Ident: #DVA
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••• Nicks: StephieV Brienne dakotahnok Andra Melkien @DreamBot Freakishular PercyLucid zartrataotao bored2tears
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? @PercyLucid: hi folks
Brienne : yay! hi
: Andra : Percy's here yay!!!!
: dakotahnok : HELLO!!
: bored2tears : Hello! I was in class super early today Mr. Percy!
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StephieV : Hi Percy
? @PercyLucid: how are ya guys?
Brienne : i brought you an apple *presents*
: bored2tears : Excited. And tired. I waited 4 hours.
: dakotahnok : good
* @PercyLucid thanks Brienne
: Andra : lol
? @PercyLucid: we will start in around 10 minutes
: bored2tears : How many people are taking this class?
? @PercyLucid: it's not time yet so more people has to come
: bored2tears : Or is this all?
? @PercyLucid: there are always flakes
? @PercyLucid: and people who can't get here
? @PercyLucid: usually the first class is not that much people
: bored2tears : SO can we continue our normal conversation until class starts?
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: Andra : yep
: dakotahnok : the less the better
? @PercyLucid: but if everybody shows, will be 28 people total
: bored2tears : I don't know if our normal conversation is actually appropriate around the teacher.
: bored2tears :
? @PercyLucid: yep, you guys can continue casual chat
: Melkien : hey!
? @PercyLucid: the classes will start in 5-10 minutes
: Melkien : nice
: * bored2tears ¦ texts dakohtah a message about unknown blue substances.
: Melkien : lol
: dakotahnok : hahahaha
: Melkien : !hug PercyLucid
: * DreamBot ¦ sees: Melkien draws close PercyLucid.
: bored2tears : Don't laugh out loud! HE MAY STEAL THE CELL PHONE!
: Melkien : lawl
? @PercyLucid: for those who are in a WBTB
? @PercyLucid: I know for a few of you it's late night
? @PercyLucid: you can do a few Reality Checks meanwhile
: bored2tears : At least a person is saying to do reality checks, instead of SlashBot.
: * dakotahnok ¦ tells bored2tears not to have a phone in class
: bored2tears : :O
: Andra : you 2 are hilarious
: bored2tears : Oops, I mean..
: * bored2tears ¦ makes a :O face.
? @PercyLucid: lol
? @PercyLucid: well
? @PercyLucid: Slashbot is not a bad idea
? @PercyLucid: reminds you to RC
: bored2tears : I know. But he is mean to me.
? @PercyLucid: lol
: bored2tears : If I say something bad to it, it says something bad back!
: * dakotahnok ¦ tells mr.percy about bored2tears cell phone
: bored2tears : <slash112> percy, tell them that a lucid dream is really just a dream where ghosts invade your dreams and kill you in your sleep and then you wake up sweating them you wake up again really cold then you wake up happy
: bored2tears : lolwut
: Melkien : I hate ninjabort
: Melkien : that guy is a meany
? @PercyLucid: lol
? Freakishular : yowsa
? Freakishular : on time?
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: dakotahnok : HI
: bored2tears : Hello.
StephieV : Hi Frishert - thanks for your help today
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StephieV : It's a miracle I am here
? Frishert : hello there!
? Frishert : no problem Stephie
? @PercyLucid:
hello folks
StephieV : Hi
: * bored2tears ¦ ***Is class starting??***
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? @PercyLucid:
classes will start in five minutes. I want to give time to people to come, there are quite a few missing still
? Frishert : ok
: bored2tears : I guess not. I did not want to take any chances.
iarpo : No worries, my chat window just took 5 minutes to load
: dakotahnok : hahahaha you can only do that one time
StephieV : frishert - did you get up from bed
? Frishert : yup
: bored2tears : I wasted it already?1
: dakotahnok : yup
? Frishert : just got up, written down my dream (remembed it yeah!)
: bored2tears : What did you dream about?
? Frishert : and now I really need to go to the toilet, brb
StephieV : Thanks for sharing
? Frishert : haha
: dakotahnok : DO you guys have waking journals?
? Frishert : I went on gamescamp, where we played all sorts of weird games
: bored2tears : I tend to dream about my bathroom. Where I do dirty, sexual things in there. I just don't post it in my DJ.
? Freakishular : my life is too mundane at the moment to keep a waking journal
: Melkien : I dont dakota
: bored2tears : The waking journal does not work for me.
? Freakishular : there's not much point in me writing about playing a ridiculous amount of street fighter
: Andra : I keep one only I write lime every month or so
: bored2tears : I never thing about my day or have any thoughts about it when I go to bed anyway.
: dakotahnok : Mine is mundane as well but it really helps my recall!
: Andra : so I guess it doesn't count
iarpo : Daft question, is a waking journal just a standard journal, ie: not dream related
: bored2tears : I remembered three dreams every night for three nights in a row, so I am fine.
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : yeah me either, my dreams are much more interesting
: dakotahnok : yeah it is
: bored2tears : If the Japenese dream viewing machine is real....
? @PercyLucid:
OK. I will wait two more minutes and then we will get started.
: bored2tears : LOL. I am so screwed then.
iarpo : fair play, could be a good habit to get into
: Andra : has anyone tasted dream food?
: bored2tears : YES!
: bored2tears : CAKE FTW!
: Melkien : w00t
: dakotahnok : i ate an unknown substance
: taranosaurusrex : I tasted a dream rainbow in a lucid, lol
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: bored2tears : The cake is what made me miss being lucid.
Brienne : actually i never have
: Andra : me too is tastes either normal or similar
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: bored2tears : Did it taste like Skittles?
: taranosaurusrex : no
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : nope, definitely one of my goals though since I heard it's possible
: bored2tears : The commercial is false advertising!
: dakotahnok : it was blue
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: bored2tears : BLUE UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE!
: taranosaurusrex : LOL, I know right!
I was so sad
: bored2tears :
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : I want to eat maguc mushrooms in my dreams
? @PercyLucid:
OK Folks, we are going to start then. 5 minutes windown is enough
: * bored2tears ¦ smiles.
? Freakishular : sounds good
? @PercyLucid:
First of all, welcome to you all to the MILD classes!!
? @PercyLucid:
I want to make sure you all read the syllabus of the class
? @PercyLucid:
so you will know what are we going to do on each of the four classes
? @PercyLucid:
it's a lot of information I want to share with you, that is the reason of making four classes instead of one
? @PercyLucid:
Did you all read the Syllabus? Do you know how to access it? If someone does not know about this, please say /me raises hand
? @PercyLucid:
OK. Good
? @PercyLucid:
First thing I want you folks to do, once the class is over, is to create your workbook as posted on the Syllabus
? @PercyLucid:
You will create your own workbook thread in the STUDENT WORKBOOKS subforum. You will be posting your MILD attempts and all your assignments in there. Students are encouraged to comment in each other's workbooks
? @PercyLucid:
To do so, please go to http://www.dreamviews.com/f86/
? @PercyLucid:
if this link does not work for you, let me know so we can grant permissions
? @PercyLucid:
Any questions so far?
? @PercyLucid:
OK. Perfect
? @PercyLucid:
From now, if I ask a question, I would like you to answer it.
? @PercyLucid:
First of all. Do you know what does MILD mean?
: bored2tears : Yes.
: Andra : yep
iarpo : yes
: dakotahnok : yes
StephieV : yes
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : yep
: taranosaurusrex : yes
? zartrataotao : yes
? Frishert : yup
Brienne : oh no i'm the only one saying no
? Freakishular : I lack the knowledge of the word M
: distilled : no
? Freakishular : ILD isn't so hard
: Melkien : yes
? @PercyLucid:
it means Mnemonically Induced Lucid Dream
? @PercyLucid:
Basically it combines the intention to perform reality checks and bring an idea into the dream
? @PercyLucid:
The second class will be the most important one, and is where I am going to teach how to incubate a dream for a successful MILD
? @PercyLucid:
On this one I want to mainly introduce the technique to you all
? @PercyLucid:
Have you ever had a MILD before?
: bored2tears : Yes.
: distilled : no
? Frishert : nope
: dakotahnok : yes
iarpo : a few
: Andra : once I think
: taranosaurusrex : I've only had one
? zartrataotao : yes
? Freakishular : I had my first experience last night and it lasted probably less than 5 seconds
StephieV : very short once
: Melkien : nope
: bored2tears : Mine wasonly a second long.
Brienne : i'm unclear on what counts as a mild. how can you know what has induced your ld?
: bored2tears : But, yes.
? @PercyLucid:
it will be explained Brienne do not worry
Brienne : k then my answer is "maybe"
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : I had a dream that was mnemonically induced, but more or less seems like it was actually a dild
StephieV : can i change my answer to maybe as well
? @PercyLucid:
MILD's sister is called DILD - I won't talk about DILD but I want to make sure you know well the differences between them. Not many, but there are some. So, go ahead and tell me if you know the differences (name them) between MILD and DILD
? @PercyLucid:
Yes StephieV. I am not testing you, do not worry. It just to know you all better
StephieV : thats a relief
: Andra : DILD is random and MILD not?
Brienne : i'm with andra
: bored2tears : With a MILD, you have the intention to have a lucid dream?
? Freakishular : one is through repetition during the day isn't it
: dakotahnok : DILD you do reality checks during the day and MILD you say a mantra (putting the intention of doing a reality check in your dream)
: Melkien : yeah was gonna say the same as dak
? Frishert : Hmmm...I guess DILDing is about RCing the shit out of yourself throughout the day and hope it initiates an LD at night
iarpo : Mild is trained, DILD is random, noticing something (?)
? zartrataotao : yes, i think mild is how to enter and mild how to exit the lucid dream
? Frishert : MILDing is about intention and, like dak said, mantras
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : well as far as I know a mild is where you guide yourself into a LD using a mantra of sorts, like telling yourself you will do an RC the next time you spot a dreamsign, whereas a dild is where something wihtin your dream triggers your lucid awareness
Brienne : in that case my earlier answer is a resounding yes, i've successfuly mild-ed
StephieV : MILD Is about RCing and DILD is random
? Frishert : enlighten us, Percy :p
? Freakishular : afk a min (Sorry!)
? @PercyLucid:
good job, you all
: Melkien : wait. isnt DILD also Rcing?
: Melkien :
? @PercyLucid:
very close, but some not 100% accurate
? @PercyLucid:
The biggest important difference, is that DILD is 100% random and MILD is intended (with mantras)
? @PercyLucid:
RC technically, RC are only for DILDs. However, they are recommended to you for DILD, MILD and WBTB mainly
? @PercyLucid:
So you will also perform several RC during waking to increase the chances of MILD
? @PercyLucid:
The best of MILD, that as most of you said
? @PercyLucid:
You induce the lucid dream with a mantra, planting an idea in your mind, incubating a dream, enjoying the experience during waking and succeding during sleep
? @PercyLucid:
If you mantra is strong enough, if you trully believe you are going to archive what are you looking for, MILD has a 100% success
? @PercyLucid:
However, here is the trick, to really believe you are going to do it.
? @PercyLucid:
Do not worry. It's easier than it sounds
? @PercyLucid:
We will go over that on the 2nd class (this is the reason I said it was the most important class of all)
? * Frishert ¦ ***Why would people still want to rely on DILDing then?***
? @PercyLucid:
Is it clear until here? Any questions?
? @PercyLucid:
Because some people gives up MILDing because they do not know the right way to do it
? Frishert : Fair enough
iarpo : So an RC in a dream is a MILD. I've failed RC s in dreams a couple of times
? @PercyLucid:
DILD is the easiest one for most people, specially for naturals who have been lucid dreaming since they were kids
? @PercyLucid:
A RC is just a Reality Check. RC will trigger lucidity, however, it's used as much as possible during night. After WILDs, DEILDs, EILDs, MILDs, OR DILDs
? @PercyLucid:
However
? @PercyLucid:
Chanting a mantra that you will RC in a dream and turn lucid is indeed a MILD
? * Frishert ¦ ***Is there a difference in vividness between DILD and MILD? Of course, you can always increase it, but I reckon that the mantras and good intention have a more positive influence than randomness?***
? * Frishert ¦ ***Increase it during the LD, that is***
? @PercyLucid:
However, once you get better in this technique, you won't need to use a mantra for RCing, but you can use it for completing certain tasks during your dream, extending your dream, etc
? @PercyLucid:
Positivism is indeed very important like Frishert mentions
? @PercyLucid:
That will be also explained during the 2nd class
iarpo : ok, I think I get it now
? @PercyLucid:
Going to bed excited assuring you are going to have a lucid dream is MILDing, and focusing on that, will increase vividness of the dream
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? @zebrah : sorry I'm late
? @PercyLucid:
however, a DILD can be as or more vivid than a MILD
? @PercyLucid:
Once you work well to MILD to RC in your lucid, you can work on vividness, however, it won't be always necessary, I remember lucids on my own, where I completed extra hard tasks but the vividness was not awesome
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? @PercyLucid:
or I remember other lucids like the last one I had, where I did not MILD a task to accomplish but to enjoy a vivid dream... and I could see and even feel water drops on the leaves of a tree
: Andra : stupid internet connection!!
? @zebrah : lol
? @PercyLucid:
Any more questions?
? @zebrah : Yes sir
? @zebrah : you are posting the chat log correct
StephieV : Can you explain chanting as opposed to just saying your intention
? @PercyLucid:
I will post the log after the course. I use IRcap, so it saves logs
? @zebrah : ok good, just making sure
? @PercyLucid:
it saves everything automatically. Going back to the topic.
? @PercyLucid:
chanting and saying has not big difference. You intention has to be trully believed both consciously and subconsciously. I will give some advice about this during this class and go in detail in the 2nd class
? @PercyLucid:
Feel free to ask more questions before I go to the next step.
: bored2tears : I have one.
? @PercyLucid:
just post the question, you do not need to say you have one!
: bored2tears : Does it make a difference if you say your mantra in your head the whole time, or will it work better if you say it out loud for a while?
? @PercyLucid:
Excellent Question
? @zebrah : And do audio tapes of the mantra help?
? @PercyLucid:
The response for this is more up to each one. Our voice is very powerful and we can accomplish several transfers of conscious using our voice. For certain meditation, using your voice is a must, so you will hear it and believe it strongly
? @PercyLucid:
I would say, it is important to say it out loud for a while, but trully believing it. I have excellent examples about this working for me a 100%
? @PercyLucid:
but we will see that in more detail on the 2nd class
? @PercyLucid:
However
? @zebrah : MILD has worked 100% for me aswell
? @PercyLucid:
Before going to bed, I would not say to chant it out loud
? @PercyLucid:
basically because one of the most important if not the most clues to succeed during a MILD attempt
? @PercyLucid:
is falling asleep with the idea you are intended to perform in your dreams
? @PercyLucid:
talking will prevent you to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid:
but during waking (specially if you are alone) during several different times through the day
? @PercyLucid:
I do greatly encourage to say it out loud and celebrate vividly the accomplishment of your goal
? @PercyLucid:
saying it out loud several times during the say will create a big daily residue on your mind which will increase your chances to become lucid and accomplish your duttie
? @PercyLucid:
excellent job zebrah. Indeed MILD is a very reliable technique
? @PercyLucid:
more questions anyone?
: * dakotahnok ¦ you say it as though we need to be happy about the night ahead of us. is that correct? if so im a little confused.
? @zebrah : Yeah I started 2 days ago and have had a lucid each night
? @PercyLucid:
Yes. You have to be happy as much as possible.
? Frishert : In general, tbh :p
: bored2tears : (That means if who I want to make it through to the next round on AGT, I'll be super happy)
? @PercyLucid:
I will go more in detail in the 2nd class, if not this will last too much and there are people here doing a WBTB
? @PercyLucid:
OK GUYS, GO AHEAD EACH AND DO A REALITY CHECK
* zebrah ¦ does RC
? Freakishular : I still see john lennons face in the mirror
? Frishert : check
: bored2tears : I've been doing one the whole time (the text one)
: bored2tears : But I did others in case.
iarpo : Check - still here
: taranosaurusrex : Well I have 5 fingers on each hand so its all good
? @PercyLucid:
Good. Any more questions before I go to the second part of today's class?
: bored2tears : None from me.
: dakotahnok : nope
? Frishert : nay
? @zebrah : No sir
: Melkien : nope
: Andra : go ahead
? zartrataotao : no
iarpo : nope
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : nope
: distilled : no
StephieV : no
? @zebrah : no
? @PercyLucid:
Excellent.
Brienne : oh right. nope.
? @PercyLucid:
Now we get to the second part. The less exciting part of the whole Semester, but its something important that every dreamer needs
? @zebrah : Mmk
? @PercyLucid:
Do you all have a Dream Journal? It's online on the DV site?
: bored2tears : Yes!
Brienne : you bet
: dakotahnok : yep!
iarpo : Yep
StephieV : yes
? Freakishular : I haven't put mine online yet..but it'd be easy
? Frishert : As of today, yeap
: distilled : yes, notebook
: taranosaurusrex : I dont have it online but I do have one
? zartrataotao : not posted yet
: Melkien : same as Freak
: Andra : I have one but not online I have only posted dreams for my DILD workbook
: Melkien :
? @zebrah : I have one. I only post lucid and interesting dreams
: bored2tears : I do not post any sexual dreams.
? @PercyLucid:
I understand that some if not all dreams are very personal, but there are these small things that seemed innecessary but do help a lot for MILD
* Brienne ¦ raises hand
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : I just got a new moleskine for that, figured I'd work on my dream recall before posting online...will start posting online after this lesson though
? @PercyLucid:
I would like for each of you to create a dream journal online. From now, you will need to write down all your dreams and experience in your workbook, but in addition you need the jounal and I will say why.
? @PercyLucid:
go ahead Brienne
? @PercyLucid: Brienne?
Brienne : typing
? @zebrah : PercyLucid: can we just link it to our current DJ?
Brienne : i've been uncertain whether to post sexual or violent dreams in my online dj, not because it's personal but because i'm not sure other dreamers who happen across my journal will be expecting to see it. what's agreed upon around here?
? Freakishular : the imagination is a wild thing
? @zebrah : They will expect it
? @PercyLucid:
zebrah for the dream part yes, for you MILD attempts I still want to see those workbooks filling
? @zebrah : Brienne the area called "report dream" is only for reporting advertising
? @zebrah : Ok cool
? @PercyLucid:
Brienne you can always censore it. I did post some of those dream missing detail. Such a 10 minutes scene sex you can say "We had sex. It felt awemose. Count an additional paragraph"
Brienne : k
: bored2tears : Ok. I'll just post it like that then too.
? @PercyLucid:
or you can always use the tags [Spoiler=Sensitive Content] write here all your adventures [/spoiler]
? Frishert : And you could always put a warning above a post if you think that dream is inappropriate for some people
? @PercyLucid:
if someone clicks it. it's his/her business, not yours not DV's
? @zebrah : Yeah
Brienne : glad that's cleard up. thnx.
? Frishert : Anyway, I still don't get why we need to double post our dreams
? @zebrah : DV won't get mad at you for sexual/violent stuff
? Frishert : Once in the DV, once in the workbook
? Frishert : *DJ
? @PercyLucid:
Frishert you can link your DJ to your workbook, it's fine, but I still want you to post your MILD attempts and assignments on your workbook
? Frishert : ok
? @PercyLucid:
there will be a lucid dream task after the second class. That will be the only REQUIRED dream to post on the workbook aswell
? Frishert : got it
? @PercyLucid:
any questions about dream journals?
? Frishert : go on ^^
: Andra : nope
: bored2tears : No.
? @PercyLucid:
I do not want to go very deeply on this, we all know this lesson
? @PercyLucid:
Excellent
: Melkien : nope
? @PercyLucid:
Now. Tell me what do you do before going to bed. Your last 5 minutes before laying down in bed and while in bed trying to sleep
? @zebrah : Saying my mantra
? @zebrah : In my head
: Andra : a fer RCs
: bored2tears : Before we lay down?
? Frishert : Do a breathing exercise
? @PercyLucid:
5 minutes before laying down and while in bed
: Andra : and thinking about lucid dreaming
? Frishert : Helps me relax
Brienne : i offer incense to quan yin and pray
: bored2tears : Once I get in bed, I lay down and meditate.
: Melkien : just thinking about LDing. relax, trying to mentalize I will LD
? Freakishular : reading DVs normally
: Melkien : oh and pray
iarpo : When I'm focussed I try to imagine a lucid goal, mainly just to become lucid, but I try tag it to an act or trigger. Try to stay as still as possible too, shut body down before the mind
StephieV : Say mantra before bed and then relax body and then more mantra and visualize a dream and seeing a dream sign and visualizing becoming lucid and then more mantra
: bored2tears : I listen to isochronic tones.
: bored2tears : Sometimes.
? @zebrah : bored2tears: does chronic
: dakotahnok : Well i meditate, i use binaral beats. I focus on my breathing. and then turn off the beats and visualize a dream scene and say my mantra. although i never end up in the scene
? @PercyLucid:
good iarpo, but that is for WILD attempts, you do not need to be laying still for MILD
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : I read my last dream or two and notice details that should have made clear to me that I was dreaming, then trying to relax and focus on my breathing while assuring myself I will become lucid by doing an rc or noticing one of my recurring dreamsigns
iarpo : ok
? @PercyLucid:
excellent before bed dutties you all
? @PercyLucid:
that is what I wanted to read!
: Melkien :
? @PercyLucid:
It is very important to clear your mind from all waking thoughs
? @PercyLucid:
this is probably the hardest part of the technique
: bored2tears : Especially with my mind.
? @PercyLucid:
we all have tons of problems as life isWild
: * dakotahnok ¦ thats were my waking journal comes in
? @PercyLucid:
but as hard as it sounds, its important to set asside you waking life and focus on your night (and not going drunk with friends) life, your dream life
? @PercyLucid:
Meditating do help a lot, and that is the reason it is important to do it every night if possible
? @PercyLucid:
We will get more in detail on the third class for this
? @zebrah : Good
: bored2tears : SOunds good to me.
? @PercyLucid:
I want to recommend you all to stay around DV before going to bed
: bored2tears : I cannot tonight.
? @PercyLucid:
flood your brain with lucid dreaming stuff
? @PercyLucid:
It's not a requerement for the class, this applies for your daily schedule, as much as you can, if you can
: bored2tears : I spend too much time here.
: bored2tears : Sorry, I'm talking too much. Continue.
? @PercyLucid:
A good way to do this, is to write your dreams down at night, you will recall from your journal all your dreams from the last night, and your mind will be very focused
? @PercyLucid:
I like participation bored2tears, you are fine
StephieV : I thought we are supposed to write dreams down in the morning when they are fresh in our minds
? @PercyLucid:
I know you might had that awesome lucid and you are desperate to post it so all folks will see how awesome your dream was
: bored2tears : I think you rewrite the dreams again at night?
? @PercyLucid:
good StephieV. In paper of course
? @PercyLucid:
but then you copy your paper journal to your DV journal
: bored2tears : Oh. That makes sense. If you rewrite your dreams at night, you will be focused on dreaming before you go to bed.
? @PercyLucid:
I usually write the entire dream in the middle of the sleep, and then I just coppy from the paper journal to the dream journal
? @PercyLucid:
If you write clue sentences only, then during the morning write as much detail as possible, but then copy it online at night, takes more time, but is worth
? @PercyLucid:
as bored2tears said. That is exactly the reason
? @PercyLucid:
Sharing your dreams with other people
? @PercyLucid:
gives you a lot of motivation to dream something cool
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? @PercyLucid:
so you can share it. That will help a lot to induce a MILD
? @PercyLucid:
ei: I love the wings of the forum for the Advanced and Basic tasks of the month. I see my posts very ugly without them, so as stupid as it sounds it helps me more to MILD, as I want them yes or yes
? @PercyLucid:
And this is where the small things come into play
? @PercyLucid:
Even the stupidest thing, if its motivating for you, it's a clue for MILD
: * Melkien ¦ Percy I've got a question. I go to college really early in the morning and dont have that much time to write LDs. I tend to write everything later, and I tested it while starting zeb's course and i could remember it a lot even just by reading little sentences I write to remember. is that ok?
? @PercyLucid:
if it works good for you melkien, it is.
: bored2tears : I do the same thing.
iarpo : If I'm short on time I use a dictaphone
: bored2tears : I have really long dreams, and all I need to write down is something like "Floods and pokemon"
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? @PercyLucid:
So it is clear for everybody to stay positive before going to bed?
: bored2tears : Yes.
Brienne : yes
: Melkien : yup
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : yep
: taranosaurusrex : yep
iarpo : Hell yes
: Andra : yes
? Freakishular : it won't be a hassel haha
? zartrataotao : yep
? @zebrah : eyes
StephieV : Yes definitely
: bored2tears : Yep.
? @zebrah : yes*
? Frishert : yeap
? @PercyLucid:
Great. Now, as a small exercise only, I want you to say the DO(s) and DONT(s) before going to bed and while trying to fall asleep
: bored2tears : DO - Be positive. DONT - Be negative.
: bored2tears :
? @PercyLucid:
good, more... let's do it like a brainstrom
? Frishert : DONT - Think about waking life
: bored2tears : DONT - Focus on your waking life
? Frishert : beat ya :p
: bored2tears : Lol, ninja'd.
iarpo : DO focus on dreaming
Brienne : Do relax
? Frishert : DO Meditate/Breathing exercise
? @zebrah : Do be focused on dreams Do not worry about tomorrow
: bored2tears : DO - Meditate or something similar before bed
StephieV : focus on flying
? Frishert : DO Spend time on DV if you can
: Andra : DO imagine you're dreaming accomplishing a task
: taranosaurusrex : Do focus on what you are planning to do in the lucid
: Melkien : DO - write dreams again at night
Brienne : Do believe you will lucid dream
? Freakishular : don't smoke pot! it kills vividness
: Melkien : lawl
: bored2tears :
? @zebrah : lol
? Freakishular : ...do during the day
? @PercyLucid:
good, very good
Brienne : i totally disagree with freak
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : Do: know how awesome it feels to become lucid, affirm your positivitiy. rmember this right before falling asleep. DONT: think about external worries
: bored2tears : DONT - Touch suspicious blue substances in a dream (lol, inside joke some people may remember)
? Freakishular : lol
? @zebrah : lol
: Melkien : lol
: bored2tears :
? @PercyLucid:
lucyintheskywithdiamonds excellent one. You hit the most important one
? @PercyLucid:
This is your most powerful weapon - know how awesome it feels to become lucid -
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : thanks!
? @PercyLucid:
If you never had a lucid, do not worry, you will very soon and you will see how AWESOME it feels
: bored2tears : I wish I knew this feeling. I guess, since I don't know how it feels, just think of the most awesome thing you felt of so far?
? @PercyLucid:
all suggestions were great
: Melkien : yeah same here bored xD
: bored2tears : 1 second of lucidity doesn't give you much of a memorable feeling.
? Freakishular : I don't have the best recall of my 5 seconds, but I'm anxious for more
? Frishert : Just try and imagine you could do anything - ANYTHING - you wanted right now
Brienne : just a second is all i have but i remember it very clearly
? @PercyLucid:
basically set asside all your waking problems, if you share you bed with wife/hubby, ask him/her to set appart life issues while in bed
? Frishert : in fact, you may be just dreaming at the moment
? Frishert : ;D
? @PercyLucid:
*&^&YHHYYT$$%&UHGTU**&^UI&IIU&
: bored2tears : ?
? Freakishular : I concur
? @PercyLucid:
%%%$%^%^^^^&jh
Brienne : heeeey not fair
? @zebrah : ?
: bored2tears : That means stop talking.
* zebrah ¦ does RC
Brienne : no it means he's pretending we're dreaming
iarpo : RC
: bored2tears : Oh.
: Andra : lol
: bored2tears : That's what *&^&YHHYYT$$%&UHGTU**&^UI&IIU& means.
? @PercyLucid:
how many of you reality checked?
: Melkien : rc
StephieV : Yes
? zartrataotao : I
: bored2tears : I did.
iarpo : aye
: Melkien : did
: taranosaurusrex : i did
: bored2tears : When Fishert said you may be dreaming.
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : haha yeah
? Frishert : Been doing it since I woke up
: bored2tears : When you did that, I thought you wanted us to shut up.
: Andra : I didn't because I RC just a few seconds before that
Brienne : did here
: bored2tears : Andra, you could have fallen asleep within those few seconds!
: Melkien : lol
: Andra : hehe
? @PercyLucid:
Get use to RC as much as you can, that will be explained more in detail over Zebrah's class RC-1. But its important for MILD too. RCing will keep your mind focused on dreaming and being lucid, so it will increase the chances for a random DILD and it will help you to MILD during the entire day
: bored2tears : I got to go in 17 minutes. Just saying.
? @PercyLucid:
As MILD is being focused on dreaming, doing RCs will keep you focused during waking
? @zebrah : Yes which I am posting a lesson in tonight
? @PercyLucid:
we are almost done
: bored2tears : Okey dokey.
? Frishert : was too late to sign up ;p
? Frishert : anyway, go on please, Percy
? @PercyLucid:
OK. So we have clear what a MILD is, the differences between MILD and othert induction techniques. The importance about what to do and not do before going bed and staying positive (brielfy as this will come into play next week)
: bored2tears : Yes.
? @zebrah : Yes...
? @PercyLucid:
If you have any question, is the best time to ask, right now
Brienne : yes
: Andra : what about visualization MILD?
? @zebrah : Vild?
: Andra : how do you actually do it?
: Melkien : yep
: Andra : yep
? @PercyLucid:
that will be discussed on the 2ND class
: bored2tears : I don't know how much this related to MILD, but before you came we briefly mentioned this. Why is it that most people cannot taste things in their dream?
? @PercyLucid:
that is more about incubating dreams
? @PercyLucid:
because they are not focused in a certain flavor
: bored2tears : Ah.
? @PercyLucid:
however, every one is different. I make dreams stable flying. I become lucid and fly at a low speed until dream becomes clear. This is the worst thing for many people to do, as it will provoque premature awekening
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : I would guess that its because you're expecting it to taste, rather than knowing it will taste?
? @PercyLucid:
but during the only lucid I rubbed my hands, I woke up, so everybody is different for this, you will need to find out in your own dreams
? @PercyLucid:
yep, that is
: bored2tears : I don't know, lucy. I only asked because whenever I taste something in the dream, I can taste it, but many people cannot.
? Freakishular : I would eat nachoes all night
: bored2tears :
: Melkien : lol
? @PercyLucid:
you can make a cheeseburger taste like a banana if you want
? Freakishular : that's not lucid
? Freakishular : that's a nightmare
: bored2tears : Ew. I had a bad burger tonight.
Brienne : OM NOM BANANABURGER
? @PercyLucid:
that is more about dream control though
: bored2tears : Burger on Banana bread?
: Andra : I would eat a giant raspberry
? @PercyLucid:
OK. One more minute and we can chit chat
: bored2tears : We lost control of everyone because food was brought up.
? @PercyLucid:
Now, for the assignment of this week
? @PercyLucid:
I basically want you to get started with your workbook
? @PercyLucid:
I will track all of them
? @PercyLucid:
you can post a link to your DJ entry
? @zebrah : k
? @PercyLucid:
but I want you to also track briefly your waking day (dream related stuff such as RC, thinking about this, etc)
Brienne : so in our workbook we post mild attempts, which can be a link to our dj if that post is relevant?
: taranosaurusrex : Oh and I have a question, so I'm going to be in a cabin in the mountains from Saturday to Tuesday so should I just copy all of my dreams on DV when I get back?
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? @PercyLucid:
You last minutes awake (as much as you can recall, your thoughs, feelings, if your mind wandered or not)
* Brienne ¦ is jealous of trex
? @PercyLucid:
and all your meditations
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? @PercyLucid: yes Brienne
: bored2tears : My mind always wanders, but it has nothing to do with the waking day. I somehow end up thinking about animals that magically sprout wings. :/
: Andra : lol
? @PercyLucid: yep taranosaurusrex but in addition of the dreams, I want you folks to do the other stuff, which is even more imporant than the dreams itself. For MILD I want to track your thoughs more than your dreams
? Frishert : Ok
? @PercyLucid:
but it will be great to read each other's dreams
: bored2tears : The first time I meditated, I was counting breaths. When I got to 40 or something, all of a sudden I started thinking about animals. :/
? @PercyLucid:
and me reading them aswell
: bored2tears : Oh, everyone will love my dreams.
? Frishert : Time for me to wrap up and go back to sleep again.
: bored2tears : Something really odd happened to me, though.
? Frishert : Let's put this to a practical use =]
? @PercyLucid:
Also, there is a a Comment box
: Andra : I noticed that when I'm about to fall asleep and still daydream really random stuff appears and I'm like:where did that come from?
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? @PercyLucid:
provide as much feeddback as you feel like
? @PercyLucid:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f81/comment-box-96881/
? @PercyLucid:
it is not necessary though
? @PercyLucid:
Any questions about the assignment?
? Frishert : I'll see you guys around the forum, chat, and til next week
? Frishert : thanks percy
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: bored2tears : Percy. I had a dream last night. At the end of it, my vision was all blurry, and I randomly felt really tired. This is how I feel when I wake up. it was as if I was in my waking body and my dream body.
: bored2tears : Could it be that I was just dreaming this, or just going into a waking phase?
Brienne : omg that's crazy me too bored go read my dj
: bored2tears : This happened last night, Brienne?
Brienne : yeah
Brienne : right before i woke up
: bored2tears : I <3 you.
? @PercyLucid:
Yeah, you could have been dreaming that
? zartrataotao : tchuss
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? @PercyLucid:
or feeling a transfer of conscious consciously
: bored2tears : Is there going to ever be a MILD-2 class?
: bored2tears : Cause if so, you should teach it.
? @PercyLucid:
yep, but it will be the same thing again
? @PercyLucid:
thanks
? @PercyLucid:
I hope you all enjoyed the class
? @PercyLucid:
the 2nd class will be the most important one
Brienne : i did indeed
: Andra : I did
: bored2tears : I will comment later. I am going to watch AGT now. Hopefully the people I like make it!
iarpo : Thanks Percy - I'm psyched for a night of lucid dreams now!
StephieV : Great class - thanks Percy
? Freakishular : thanks for taking the time to do this
: bored2tears : G'night everyone. Thanks Percy!
? @PercyLucid:
the bulk of the topic will be there
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? @PercyLucid:
thanks folks!
Brienne : can we chit chat and ask you slighly off topic questions now?
? @PercyLucid: yep
lucyintheskywithdiamonds : yeah very informative, thanks for all the excellent info percy!
: Andra : ok I guess it's WBTB time
? @PercyLucid: Andra
: Andra : thanks Percy!
: Andra : yup?
? @PercyLucid:
do several RCs
? !Alex : good job, PercY
Brienne : you wbtb people are *dedicated*
: Melkien : thanks perc nice class
: taranosaurusrex : Yeah this class was awesome! I'm excited to dream tonight
: Andra : I will
? @PercyLucid: thanks Alex!
: Melkien : yeah I agree Brienne
: Melkien : loll
? @PercyLucid:
and
? @PercyLucid:
andra
: Andra : ?
? @PercyLucid:
feel assured that there are big chances you become lucid tonight
? @PercyLucid:
this applies for all WBTB folks
: Andra : thanks
? @PercyLucid:
You got brain flooded with lucid dreaming
? @PercyLucid:
go straight to bed
: Andra : yup
? @PercyLucid:
do not see your e-mail, facebook, nothing
StephieV : I am going to bed now to have major LD
: Andra : good night
? @PercyLucid:
do a RC, go to bathroom, otherh RC, go drink water, other RC
? @PercyLucid:
go to bed, other RC
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? @PercyLucid:
fall asleep thinking about this
Brienne : this is way my favorite class format ever
Brienne : why aren't all of my classes over irc
? Freakishular : lol, i'm definitely getting better at recognizing dreams, thats for sure
? Freakishular : because that would be too easy
iarpo : Thanks again Percy. 3:30 am here, I'm gonna hit the hay. Next time guys - RC
? @PercyLucid:
ok folks, we can have our chit chat in #luciddreaming
? @PercyLucid:
this channel has to empty as the class is done
StephieV : goodnight everyone - great meeting you and special thanks to our great teacher!
Brienne : k
? @PercyLucid: type ./join #luciddreaming
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