So! I tried and failed 3 times at incubating during the day yesterday.

Itried the chest technique, but i could visualize it this time, so i just told myself(in my head) that im putting certain things and people into the box and locking it. Which seemed to be effective until the next time i woke up. So i ended up doing that about 4 times during the morning. I was only able to recall one long dream but i had woken up in the middle and fell back into it and it continued like nothing had happened. So i was pleased with that. Still vivid recall as always, same as my waking life but without physical feelings or perception of what is normal.