Thread: the davinvi code

This should probably be in the Entertainment forum, but whatever.

I liked it. I have the illustrated version and the photos were awesome.

I haven't read this, but I have read all of Dan Browns other books. Angels and Demons is the prequal to the Da Vinci Code, and I thought it was a great book

I thought The Da Vinci Code was a good book, also.

*cough* well, this is something I feel quite strongly about, SO... *ahem*

These are STOLEN from other sources!

Dan Brown didn't think up SHIT for that book, he just stole ideas from other people.

The DaVinci code SUCKS. It is one of the WORST pieces of trash airport-fiction I have ever read. I CAN, and HAVE, written better than that shithead.

Originally posted by The Blue Meanie
*cough* well, this is something I feel quite strongly about, SO... *ahem*

These are STOLEN from other sources!

Dan Brown didn't think up SHIT for that book, he just stole ideas from other people.

The DaVinci code SUCKS. It is one of the WORST pieces of trash airport-fiction I have ever read. I CAN, and HAVE, written better than that shithead.

So whats this book about anyway... I haven't read it yet, but im thinking I might...

Originally posted by The Blue Meanie
*cough* well, this is something I feel quite strongly about, SO... *ahem*

These are STOLEN from other sources!

Dan Brown didn't think up SHIT for that book, he just stole ideas from other people.

The DaVinci code SUCKS. It is one of the WORST pieces of trash airport-fiction I have ever read. I CAN, and HAVE, written better than that shithead.

LOL - tell us how you really feel.

Entertaining, but without artistic merit.

Originally posted by Burns
LOL - tell us how you really feel.

*shrugs* meh. It's just a subject I feel strongly about.

It just pisses me off that everybody keeps going "Oh! The DaVinci Code! That was a brilliant book, I really enjoyed it!" EVERYBODY. Are they idiots? Dan Brown is a talentless hack, he can't write for SHIT. This is nothing to do with the ideas, etc, behind the DaVinci code, because I actually AGREE with a good deal of them. This is about the talent (or rather, the complete LACK of talent) of the writer, and the lack of ANY literary merit of the book. It's HORRENDOUSLY badly-written, boring, predictable, and totally devoid of ANY dramatic depth.

What pisses me off the most, is that the actual subject content of the book, and the historical undertones it uses, could have supported an EXCELLENT book. But Dan Brown has totally DESTROYED that, by writing a trashy piece of airport fiction on a subject that could have made a FANTASTIC book.

DAN BROWN, YOU SUCK MONKEY BALLS!!!

I thought it was pretty good... though a bit too much like "national treasure" (going around seeking random clues, ect.)

I don't see the point of getting so worked up about it though...

ehi.... i don't even have balls...

Anyway, the theories are nothing new, the stile is poor, and so on. But it isn't that bad. It's just nothing exceptional. Maybe the movie is good, maybe not... haven't seen it yet.
I think it's all much ado for nothihng (to say it Shakespeare!)
it's not eretic. It's just re-heated soup.

Originally posted by italianmonkey
ehi.... i don't even have balls...

heheheheheh...

Originally posted by The Blue Meanie
The ONLY redeeming features about the DaVinci code are the historical undertones and ideas. And guess what?

These are STOLEN from other sources!

It's "history", what the f*** is he supposed to do? Go back in time and see it for himself? Not too many people have that ability, and even then, why would they want to be a historian?

Also, I haven't read the book and don't support either side of the argument, but lots of "historians" "steal".

Originally posted by Distant Clone
It's "history", what the f*** is he supposed to do? Go back in time and see it for himself? Not too many people have that ability, and even then, why would they want to be a historian?

Also, I haven't read the book and don't support either side of the argument, but lots of "historians" "steal".

Yeah, everyone has to use other sources for writing. I bet you do, every time you write a paper...Does that mean you steal them? Perhaps, but I am sure you have no qualms with it...

Anyway, there is an Entertainment section for this kind of discussion, you know. I mean, I wish people would use the damn thing instead of posting all of these game/band/book threads in the lounge.. [/i]

Originally posted by The Blue Meanie

The DaVinci Code is the WORST piece of SHIT that has EVER made it into ANY bestseller list!!!

you. are. fucking. stupid.


if you have ever enjoyed a movie... YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.

the da vinci code was written like a movie. it's not meant for deep contemplation... it's meant for momentary enjoyment.... like anything else you pay $7.50 to experience. i'm so tired of stupid punks jumping on the band wagon. TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

the movie is no worse than that BLOCKBUSTER-piece-of-crap matrix three or any stephen king novel under the sun.

you get so bent out of shape when what you're arguing carries no weight to begin with.

IT IS A PIECE OF ENTERTAINMENT. JUST LIKE THE MATRIX. JUST LIKE JAWS. JUST LIKE CITIZEN KANE. JUST LIKE CATS. JUST LIKE THE SUPER BOWL. just like whatever lame band you listen to. TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. ENTERTAINMENT.

grrr.

-love, jake

p.s. i've not seen it yet.

...i've read it... i've also read stephen king... i've read dean koontz... i've read cormack mccarthy and henry fielding... it is all the same.

i will see it monday... but i will not take it for more than a piece of entertainment.

Originally posted by Gwendolyn+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwendolyn)</div>

Yeah, everyone has to use other sources for writing. I bet you do, every time you write a paper...Does that mean you steal them? Perhaps, but I am sure you have no qualms with it...[/b]

No, I don't steal. I follow proper academic protocol. I footnote and bibliograpy-ise all my research, very thoroughly. To do anything else is plaigarism.

My point was that, the ONLY redeeming feature of Dan Brown's work, the historical undertones, etc, wasn't even his own idea or arguments. Dan Brown is a talentless hack.

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Anyway, there is an Entertainment section for this kind of discussion, you know. I mean, I wish people would use the damn thing instead of posting all of these game/band/book threads in the lounge.. [/i]

Yup. Well, it's been moved now, so, whoever it was, thank you mods!

Originally posted by adidas
you. are. fucking. stupid.

if you have ever enjoyed a movie... YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.

the da vinci code was written like a movie. it's not meant for deep contemplation... it's meant for momentary enjoyment.... like anything else you pay $7.50 to experience. i'm so tired of stupid punks jumping on the band wagon. TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

the movie is no worse than that BLOCKBUSTER-piece-of-crap matrix three or any stephen king novel under the sun.

you get so bent out of shape when what you're arguing carries no weight to begin with.

IT IS A PIECE OF ENTERTAINMENT. JUST LIKE THE MATRIX. JUST LIKE JAWS. JUST LIKE CITIZEN KANE. JUST LIKE CATS. JUST LIKE THE SUPER BOWL. just like whatever lame band you listen to. TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. ENTERTAINMENT.

grrr.

-love, jake

No, I disagree. Written Literature is a totally different medium to the Hollywood movie. Movies are meant, for the most part, to just entertain, you're right about that. But, the beef I have with Dan Brown, is that it was presented, and marketed, as MORE than just mindless entertainment.

Like, ie: There's a difference between Mills & Boone and Jane Austin. You get what I'm saying?

The beef that I have with Dan Brown, is that people, for the most part, totally overlook the fact that it's shit, badly-written, etc. The seem to regard it as decent literature. now, I dunno about you, BUT, as far as I go, if I want mindless entertainment, I'll watch a movie. If I want something more, something with style and substance, I'll read a book.

Again, film is a TOTALLY different medium to literature. If the DaVinci code were to have started out as a film, cool, I would haver had no problems with it. But as a book, it sucked. Bad. IT was badly-written, etc.

Originally posted by The Blue Meanie

No, I disagree. Written Literature is a totally different medium to the Hollywood movie. Movies are meant, for the most part, to just entertain, you're right about that. But, the beef I have with Dan Brown, is that it was presented, and marketed, as MORE than just mindless entertainment.

Like, ie: There's a difference between Mills & Boone and Jane Austin. You get what I'm saying?

The beef that I have with Dan Brown, is that people, for the most part, totally overlook the fact that it's shit, badly-written, etc. The seem to regard it as decent literature. now, I dunno about you, BUT, as far as I go, if I want mindless entertainment, I'll watch a movie. If I want something more, something with style and substance, I'll read a book.

Again, film is a TOTALLY different medium to literature. If the DaVinci code were to have started out as a film, cool, I would haver had no problems with it. But as a book, it sucked. Bad. IT was badly-written, etc.

literature is film. film is literature.

entertainment is entertainment.

no matter what way it's written or directed it's still meant as entertainment and a money-making implement.

(sorry to fly off the handle, but i'm 5 white-ruskies in)

Originally posted by adidas+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(adidas)</div>

(sorry to fly off the handle, but i'm 5 white-ruskies in)[/b]

Heh. No problem, don't worry about it.


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literature is film. film is literature.

entertainment is entertainment.

no matter what way it's written or directed it's still meant as entertainment and a money-making implement.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

BUT.

There's a difference between stupid/crappy/bad/trashy literature, and good/well-written/quality/intelligent literature. What angers me about Dan Brown and his DaVinci Code is that he falls under the first category, and yet he is PRESENTED as in the second category, and most people seem to think he's in the second category. He's a talentless hack, his stuff is trashy and badly-written, badly-plotted, etc. Now, if Dan Brown and his f%$&ing books were marketed as the s$%t they are, they wouldn't be in the bestseller list. What pisses me off is that people are picking up this shit, thinking it is good, and raving about it to everybody.

Dan Brown is talentless, and the DaVinci Code is SHIT.

and yet he is PRESENTED as in the second category[/b]

when and where?

he presents it as a theory. just like the big band theory. just like the theory of evolution.

i've only read the davinci code and angels and demons.... again i've not seen the movie.



my point is this: why does it matter to you?

is it because people are so devout about the davinci code being a work of genius?

because i think the same about them as i do about the people who are so fast to call dan brown a moron.

Dan Brown gave due credit to his sources. He didn't just plaigarize. I am not saying his books are the best books ever, but I am saying that he didn't steal shit from other places without giving credit.

Originally posted by Burns
I liked it. I have the illustrated version and the photos were awesome.

My mother-in-law loaned me the illustrated version, and I did enjoy it...

Until I started digging into Dan Brown's "facts." If it had been presented purely as a work of fiction, it would have been a decent read for me. The problems begin when he starts trying to be a Michener or Chrichton - two fiction writers who really DO their homework. Even the architectural "facts" are seriously flawed, as I found from a friend who went to Europe to tour the locations.

To say that Brown is disingenuous is a rather drastic understatement. Stripped of the "facts," the book becomes pulp and worse... as the core subjects just happen to be among the worshipped and revered of some of the worlds major religions.

Get a grip.
Every author derives many of their narrative content for other peoples ideas.
It has been taken to a court of law and proven in a court of law that he had taken into account and researched many other ideas to extract what is now the Davinci Code.

Frankly I am sick of hearing about it.
Read another of his books like Deception point, it is very good.
I am a quarter of the way through h the Da Vinci code. For me it is too early to make a judgement.
But to raise so many eyebrows it seems it must have something of significance.