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      PS3 vs. 360, which one??

      Here's the deal. I want to get one of those two, use it primarily for gaming, and I should also mention that I'll be getting a Korean version and wanting to play US games.

      After reading a bit about both, my concerns are these:

      Xbox 360
      - Tougher to play games from outside the country of purchase, unless those games don't come with regional codes.
      - Apparently has a loud fan.
      - Breaks often.

      PS3
      - Is a better machine on paper but in reality frame rate and graphics quality seems to be worse. Two games I'm specifically thinking about right now, that I want but have these issues, are Dragon Age and (maybe) Bayonetta.

      Thoughts? Advice??

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      Hm, I have a ps3, 360 and wii and definitely think the 360 is better. I'm sorry ps3 lovers but the 360 has more games and plus with Natal coming out.. yeah bye bye ps3.

      As far as functionality, there's not much of a difference if you ask me.

      Ps3's online multiplayer gaming is free where as the 360's cost money every year.
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      Definitely PS3, I have to say.... Everyone I know that has one has never had a problem with it, besides one person who tried to remove a disc while the game was running and it fucked up his reader. However, everyone I know with an Xbox, has had the red rings problem at least once or more. Also, everyone I know that owns both systems tends to shun their 360 the majority of the time, unless a major exclusive game like a new Halo has come out recently.

      I've never had a problem with frame rate or graphics quality on my PS3, the graphics look marvelous on everything. The only exception though, is one of the games you mentioned coincidentally, there is some frame rate problems with Dragon Age, but definitely not enough to make it not enjoyable. I've never seen a hitch of frame rate problems with any other game.

      Overall, I'm very happy with my PS3, free online play is a major plus for me. Also, the exclusives appeal to me much more than the Xbox exclusives. The only Xbox exclusives that interest me at all are Halo and Fable, and honestly I thought the first Halo was the peak of the series anyway....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bayside View Post
      Definitely PS3, I have to say.... Everyone I know that has one has never had a problem with it, besides one person who tried to remove a disc while the game was running and it fucked up his reader. However, everyone I know with an Xbox, has had the red rings problem at least once or more. Also, everyone I know that owns both systems tends to shun their 360 the majority of the time, unless a major exclusive game like a new Halo has come out recently.

      I've never had a problem with frame rate or graphics quality on my PS3, the graphics look marvelous on everything. The only exception though, is one of the games you mentioned coincidentally, there is some frame rate problems with Dragon Age, but definitely not enough to make it not enjoyable. I've never seen a hitch of frame rate problems with any other game.

      Overall, I'm very happy with my PS3, free online play is a major plus for me. Also, the exclusives appeal to me much more than the Xbox exclusives. The only Xbox exclusives that interest me at all are Halo and Fable, and honestly I thought the first Halo was the peak of the series anyway....
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      Alright, I think at the end of the day I would have liked to get a 360 (only because I already own PS1 and 2, would be nice to try something new)... but the friggin REGION CODE BS is gonna make it pretty much useless, unless I can magically learn Korean in a day or two. Gaaaaad damn it all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      He works for Sony Mes.
      CALL NOW, FOR THE NEXT TEN MINUTES, PS3'S ONLY $299.99! STOP HAVING A BORING 360, STOP HAVING A BORING LIFE!

      /end infomercial

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      Hahaha!

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      I am also debating the same thing Mes. Thanks for making the thread.

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      Awesome. Lemme know what you decide.

      Btw I Natal looks friggin' insane. I might just end up with both consoles anyway.

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      I think you'll probably find more games for the 360, but the PS3 has some of the better games out there.

      I've never actually played a PS3 before (except at Wal-Mart).

      I guess it really just boils down to which games you want to play and if they are console exclusive only.

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      Xbox Live costs $60 a year, or $5 a month. If you can't afford that, maybe you can do something other than play video games?


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      Who said anything about Xbox Live not being affordable?

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      Also, it's only $50 a year.

      Plus you need Xbox Live Gold to pretty much do all the cool things on the Xbox.

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      Do you want to pay $50 a year or get free for online service?
      Want a system that has blu-ray compatability?
      Want more exclusive games higher rated over-all games?
      The console that is in 1st place out of the other two?

      The PS3 favors all of these listings.

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      Get an Xbox 360 because it has Mass Effect 2 which is the best game in the universe.
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      I think the blu ray player in the ps3 is a big factor, but for you the main variable is going to be which system you can get games for most easily in korea. No matter which system is technically better, the deciding factor is going to be how hard it is to get the games you actually want to play. Just out of curiosity, how much of an issue would shipping be if you decided to get everything imported from the states?

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      Shipping games is not a problem, but I can't buy a console from overseas without paying a ridiculous import tax on it...

      And it looks like if I buy a console domestically (Korea), I won't be able to play games from anywhere else. So since I've found that out, the choice has essentially been decided for me.

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      The ps3 is over rated. I have a 360 and the fan is quiet. mostly I have it for halo and gears of war. Don't have live yet though

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Awesome. Lemme know what you decide.
      I'm pretty sure I'll be getting a PS3.

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      Alright, children, quiet down. I'm here to settle this. And you know you can trust me.

      There is not one overall winner in this particular console war, HOWEVER there are contextual winners, and for the most part the PS3 comes out on top.


      Why? You may ask. Well, if we had this thread 1 year ago then it would have been the Xbox 360 as a nobrainer. However the world of gming has dramatically changed since then, and now it's become almost entirely the opposite.

      Let's start the analysis by looking at Exclusive games. Now these are games which are ONLY available on one system. We use the term "Multiplatform" for games available on both. So here I'm going to compare the top exclusives for both systems.


      Spoiler for A note on Xbox Exclusives:



      The most recent games of course we are in now a good position to evaluate. So let's look at the TOP REVIEWED exclusive games for the year 2009:

      Now Firstly I'm going to give you the exclusive Games with a METACRITIC score of 85+ from each platform.

      According to Metacritic, for 2009:

      Xbox 360:
      Forza Motorsport 3 [92% Good Reviews]

      Now the only other contender is Left 4 Dead 2, however considering it is primarily a PC game, it should not truly be counted as an exclusive.

      PS3:
      Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [96% Good Reviews]
      Killzone 2 [92% Good Reviews]
      God of War Collection [91% Good Reviews]
      Demon's Souls [89% Good Reviews]
      InFAMOUS [85% Good Reviews]
      Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack In Time [87% Good Reviews]



      So combining this result with multiplatforms, for 2009 the board was essentially sweeped by Sony. Not to mention that previously 360 exclusive titles are consistently coming to PS3, with added features: see Vesperia, Star Ocean, Liberty City Stories.



      OK, So that's GAMES for 2009. What about upcoming games? How is 2010 Looking to shape up?

      Well it's much more even than last year's essential massacre, However I still feel the PS3 comes out on top.

      So here are good looking either confirmed or basically confirmed exclusives for 2010:

      Xbox 360:
      Mass Effect 2 [This is already out now, and having played it I can say it's a great game.]
      Alan Wake
      Bioshock 2
      Crackdown 2
      Halo: Reach
      Fable 3
      Demons of Mercy
      Super Star

      PS3:
      Final Fantasy Versus XIII
      Gran Turismo 5
      Heavy Rain [My personal most anticipated game of the year]
      The Last Guardian
      White Knight Chronicles 2
      God of War 3
      MAG
      Agent
      Yakuza 3
      Yakuza 4
      Twisted Metal
      Resistance 3
      Starhawk


      Now, you may think in terms of quantity these lists look alot closer, which indeed is the case. But let me explain why I feel the PS3 list is the better, and why it will appeal more personally to YOU Mes. Also you Nina.


      Let's run through 2010 exclusives one more time, this time considering the style of game:

      Xbox 360:
      Mass Effect 2 [Sci Fi RPG]
      Alan Wake [Horror]
      Bioshock 2 [Undersea Shooter Horror]
      Crackdown 2 [3rd Person Shooting Madness]
      Halo: Reach [First Person Shooter]
      Fable 3 [Fantasy RPG]
      Demons of Mercy [Action(little yet known)]

      So what are the trends: Shooting and RPG basically is the deal here.

      Now the PS3 list is actually far more interesting, and revolutionary, whilst as you can see the 360 list is stale status quo gaming. (Just look at all them sequels).

      PS3:
      Final Fantasy Versus XIII [Final Fantasy, you know the drill]
      Gran Turismo 5 [Racing]
      Heavy Rain [Practically an interactive and mature movie. The first of it's kind and likely to revolutionise the way we consider Video Games]
      The Last Guardian [From team Ico, makers of Shadow of the Collosus, this game looks to be equally unidentifiable, you play as a small boy who befriends a giant Griffin-Like creature:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4E0e-ZCn14]
      White Knight Chronicles 2 [Fantasy RPG]
      God of War 3 [Hack nd Slash
      MAG [First Person Shooter of unprecedented scale: 256 players in a battle at once]
      Agent [Adventure]
      Yakuza 3 [Sandbox Adventure]
      Yakuza 4 [Sandbox Adventure]
      Twisted Metal [Racing]
      Resistance 3 [First Person Shooter]
      Starhawk[Aerial Combat]


      Now you must see the difference here. PS3 certinly has it's share of shooters and RPG, but it is alsogoing beyond that this year. Games like MAG, which revolutionises FPS, games like Heavy Rain, which revolutionise gaming, Games like The Last Guardian, which are one of the few instances video games can be considered art.


      So as is undeniable, unless you're a shooting loving 13 year old, is that the PS3 is as of now the better choice, without a doubt. This isn't even to mention the pre-2009 games [Metal Gear Solid 4, widely regarded as one of the greatest endings to a series ever].


      Now on the other hand, if you do mainly enjoy what you're used to in video games, so shooting and bland fantasy adventures, then choose a 360, because you'll honestly be happier.


      OK. So that is games.

      What about hardware, other features? Well it's known that the PS3 is the higher-powered piece of kit, due to it's cell processor. It also takes blu-ray discs. What this practically means is that FAR more information can be stored on a disc for a PS3. A good example is Final Fantasy XIII, which is on One disc for the PS3, and 3 discs for the Xbox [even with reduced content].

      PS3 has FREE online play, inbuilt WiFi, default wireless controllers, easily chargeable. The Hard Drive is replacable with a typical laptop hardrive, so you can easily upgrade your space.

      The Xbox 360 has subscription payed online features, Wired and wireless controllers, and WiFi etc needs to bought seperately from microsoft, at an absurd price.


      AN IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING XBOX 360 HARDWARE: The Xbox is INFAMOUS for it's so called "Red Ring of Death" which can happen any time, and renders the console useless. The current estimated failure rates for the Xbox 360 are as high as "54.2%". Which frankly is absolutely ridiculous. http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176741.asp

      The editor of the leading gaming news website Kotaku.com has himself admitted to having SEVEN xboxes break down so far. Which honestly is absolutely ridiculous, PARTICULARLY for such a shoddy service in the first place.



      OK, so we've seen hardware, PS3 won, We've seen Games, PS3 won. The only last thing is PRICE.

      Now the PS3 used to be awful here. With a $600 release price it was a disgrace and this is the reason it failed to launch early on in it's lifespan. However last September Sony radically reduced the price of the PS3 and gave it a new model: The PS3 Slim. Now this is as low as $250 on sale new.

      The Xbox 360 was always about this price, and now can be got at $199. However when you add on to the retail price the cost of extras that are included with the PS3, such as a Wireless adaptor and online subscription, The Xbox 360 comes out as MORE expensive than the PS3.



      So the PS3 at this point in it's life is better in every respect than the Xbox 360.

      If you want to play online by the way, you'll find yourself amongst more players of your own age on the PLaystation Network. Surveys have shown the typical age of Playstation owners as consistently higher than 360 owners.

      The classic idea of age goes as thus: Wii for ages 0-12, Xbox 360 for ages 12-18, PS3 for ages 18+.

      This is also reflected in the games. Wii goes for cartoony happy games, 360 goes for mindless shooting, and PS3 goes for interesting generally "movie-like" games.

      Also Xbox LIVE [the xbox online network] Is one of the most horrible places to play ever. I know this from experience, there is a ridiculous amount of foul mouthed 13 years olds, it's frustrating. PSN is significantly better in my experience. Less people have mics, but all that really means is less kids screaming at you.



      And finally, the most important aspect is that since I sold my 360 and bought a gaming PC to replace it I only play PS3, and so if either of you buy a PS3, you can play online with me :3


      So in short, PS3, there never was another choice. [Also yeah, PS3 games are region free Mes, and far more prevalent in your part of the world]




      EDIT: also Blu Ray movies are wonderful, and really should be experienced if you have a HD tv. There's a VAST difference between Blu Ray and DVD. It's one step closer to actually being there, really.
      Last edited by Carôusoul; 02-10-2010 at 07:08 PM.

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      If Tax is what your concerned about why don't you decide to buy your PS3 from eBay? Not only will you get one brand new, but cheaper also. Also, I don't know if Xbox has this the same feature, but with your free online service you can also buy and download ps1 classics. I have bought a few, there great but not as cool as the games come out these days.

      You also get to rent or buy dvd's from there online service. I have never used it, but it looks very convenient. Let me know what you decide.

      Also, as a quick note. What it really comes down to is you get what you pay for. For the Xbox, you get a little less (assuming you get the basic model) and with the PS3 you get a little more. (assuming you get the basic model)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      Alright, children...


      Heavy Rain [[I]My personal most anticipated game of the year





      ...really.
      Hey have you seen it's rating by IGN?

      You can Read The Article here.
      Last edited by Jorge; 02-10-2010 at 07:32 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
      Hey have you seen it's rating by IGN?

      You can Read The Article here.
      Yeah I saw it. Played the demo recently, it's fantastic.

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      ^^^

      There's a demo???? Wow, I'm lost. Is it in the PSN?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
      ^^^

      There's a demo???? Wow, I'm lost. Is it in the PSN?
      It comes out officially today or tomorrow on PSN.

      I got it early from the online Alternate Reality game though. Keep an eye on the PSN store today and tomorrow, and i'tll pop up.

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