Quote Originally Posted by Noogah View Post
I agree that violence should (usually) be a last resort. But, you have only failed if there was a different option that you refused to take. If there were absolutely zero options left for you, you took the only available option and have not failed.

Of course, all IMHO.
There is always another option, that is why I say that the use of violence is a failure to figure out what the other options are, or to use them. Violence is always accompanied by a certain degree of failure. It may be the lesser of several failures that the person is aware of, but it is still a failure nonetheless.