Thread: Why is dreamviews more liberal than society at large?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Omnis - all you had to do was put an arrow pointing to your avatar!!!

Liberals are concerned for everyone's rights - they want to make sure everyone is treated fairly. Conservatives are concerned mostly for their own rights, at the expense of others.

One of the United States fundamental values is that prosperity comes from allowing men to achieve their own definition of success. The conservative base in this country is rooted in tradition. They hold onto these core traditions because they make up the nation's core identity. In any nation, the conservatives will hold onto the core traditions of the ancestors that prospered there. It's simple evolution. The preferable method is a balance between Self-Preservation and Mutation, tradition and discovery.

The economic issue got glombed onto this basic dynamic because of the way it has been presented to the American people. Honestly they're right to be hesitant in adopting an outright socialist agenda as we've observed this mutation amount to one vicious ruling class replacing the other. In response to these foreign values, our nation's conservatives adopted very anti-socialist values as a means to preserve their organism. While our liberals continue to explore concepts where the state can work to benefit the people, they're still anchored by the a free market conservative function.

The media tries to pretend that we exist on a spectrum of leftwing socialist values vs rightwing capitalist values. This is nonsense. Liberals don't have base values, they exist to progress the society forward.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

One of the United States fundamental values is that prosperity comes from allowing men to achieve their own definition of success. The conservative base in this country is rooted in tradition. They hold onto these core traditions because they make up the nation's core identity. In any nation, the conservatives will hold onto the core traditions of the ancestors that prospered there. It's simple evolution. The preferable method is a balance between Self-Preservation and Mutation, tradition and discovery.

When has this "fundamental value" presented itself in American history? What other traditions have you conspired that "make up the nation's core identity?"

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

The economic issue got glombed onto this basic dynamic because of the way it has been presented to the American people. Honestly they're right to be hesitant in adopting an outright socialist agenda as we've observed this mutation amount to one vicious ruling class replacing the other. In response to these foreign values, our nation's conservatives adopted very anti-socialist values as a means to preserve their organism. While our liberals continue to explore concepts where the state can work to benefit the people, they're still anchored by the a free market conservative function.

Carrying out a global revolution to change society is anti-socialist? Really? And our government is "anchored" by free markets?...When has that been?

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

The media tries to pretend that we exist on a spectrum of leftwing socialist values vs rightwing capitalist values. This is nonsense. Liberals don't have base values, they exist to progress the society forward.

How society progresses is the conflict. Classical liberals see laissez-faire, Progressive Liberals employ conservative (ancien regime) means to achieve progress.