Thread: Industrial Society Destroys Mind And Environment

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Yadav, I don't know why you revived this thread...again. I skimmed through the article you posted and I read several of your above posts, and I can honestly say that they're filled with unsupported assumptions and wrong facts. I almost don't want to argue scientific points with you because you've made it very clear that you are against science, thought, and logic.

The entire premise that we will destroy the environment is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, we ARE destroying the environment, but nothing humans could unintentionally do through industrial activities would kill all life on the planet because humans themselves would die out first. And also, your argument against possible space colonization is based on current science and is majorly flawed because of that.

In your response to Kimpossible you assume that she doesn't care about the environment though she says absolutely nothing about her stance on the environment. She does, however, rightfully argue that you are a hypocrite in that you use a computer to argue your point, which is the triumph of industrialized society.

Did you know that India is rated to be less happy than many industrialized nations including the U.S., Sweden, and Denmark?

I don't have time for this, I'll be back in a couple of days with why your entire article is flawed.

...I never did bet back to this...

[QUOTE=Black_Eagle]you are a hypocrite in that you use a computer to argue your point, which is the triumph of industrialized society.[/UNQUOTE]


Did I ever claim that I am not a part of society that is destroying environment?????

The title of my article says "Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment" and since I am a citizen of Industrial Society I get included automatically.

Computers are being used because they are being manufactured by Industrial Society.

Was anyone using computers in Hunter_Gatherer Society / Agrarian Society?????



Environment does'nt get saved if a few people live a simple life.....It does'nt get saved if a few thousand people live a simple life......It does'nt get saved if a few million people live a simple life.....It does'nt get saved even if a few billion people live a simple life [which is happening right now.....Out of 7 billion people roughly half, about 3.5 billion are already living a simple life in Asia, Africa and South America .......but this does'nt save the environment......because the rest 3.5 billion people all over the world are living a highly consumerist life which is enough to destroy all ecosystems.

The entire world has to live a simple life. In animal kingdom all animals lived a simple life.....In Hunter_Gatherer Society all people lived a simple life......In Agrarian Society almost all people lived a simple life.

In a non-industrial society simple living happens automatically....one does not have to make efforts to live a simple life. In a non-industrial society environment gets saved automatically....one does not have to make efforts to save environment.

An Industrial Society produces thousands of consumer goods in addition to food, clothing and shelter.....therefore simple living by entire society is impossible.

There is no industrial society which limits its activity to just food, clothing, shelter and does not produce consumer goods.

If we compare the scale and magnitude of environmental destruction of the three human societies we have had on earth we will find :

Hunter_Gatherer society was least destructive/ hardly caused any destruction......Agrarian Society was thousands of times more destructive.......Industrial Society is millions of times more destructive.



A pure non-industrial society is not possible now because Industrialization has increased world population to 7 billion.

If we want to save the remaining environment we must minimize the things that destroy environment.

At present we are destroying environment for Food, Clothing, Shelter plus Thousands of Industrial consumer goods and services.

We must eliminate the things that were added last to the list......which means Thousands of consumer goods and services, most of which have existed for only about 100 years out of Hundreds of Thousands of years of Total Human Existence on earth .........these have to be eliminated or minimized.

Industrial Activity for production of Consumer Goods and Services must stop immediately.......It should not continue for even one more day......Human work must be limited to Food, Clothing and Shelter......and even in these three fields production and consumption must be kept to the minimum.


sushil_yadav
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment