Thread: Diagnosis required - What is wrong with me ?

If you're truly concerned, go to a doctor, and I promise you that that's the only advice that will ever help you here.

Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia

If you're truly concerned, go to a doctor, and I promise you that that's the only advice that will ever help you here.

I disagree. The advice I gave him is much more likely to help him than what a doctor will tell him. Doctors are under the spell of big pharma. They are always thinking, "Hmmm, what pills should I prescribe for this?"

That is not to say that pills are not sometimes needed. Sometimes they are. So is surgery. But conditions like what Phil has are usually best handled through nutrition, exercise, and/or meditation. If the problem persists, he should see a doctor. I just don't want him to be given a false fixation by way of an ADD medication like that cocaine in a pill called Adderall.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

cocaine in a pill called Adderall.

The fact that you're mixing up the connections between cocaine and Ritalin with a connection between cocaine and Adderall shows me that you definitely aren't in any place to be giving medical advice. Not to mention that you told him caffeine was a problem when it's been shown to help significantly in focus. I also personally believe that sativa (not indica) marijuana can do wonders for focus, but let's not argue about that until it's completely legal and its effects can be freely tested upon with little to no stigma.

And no matter how vehemently I'll argue over what advice is good or what advice isn't, the fact is that I'm not a valid source either. The only person OP needs to talk to right now is the guy who dedicated a hefty portion of his life to helping sick people.

Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia

The fact that you're mixing up the connections between cocaine and Ritalin with a connection between cocaine and Adderall shows me that you definitely aren't in any place to be giving medical advice. Not to mention that you told him caffeine was a problem when it's been shown to help significantly in focus. I also personally believe that sativa (not indica) marijuana can do wonders for focus, but let's not argue about that until it's completely legal and its effects can be freely tested upon with little to no stigma.

And no matter how vehemently I'll argue over what advice is good or what advice isn't, the fact is that I'm not a valid source either. The only person OP needs to talk to right now is the guy who dedicated a hefty portion of his life to helping sick people.

I used a metaphor. Addrall's effects are very much like that of cocaine. Of course adderall isn't literally composed of cocaine. I assumed you would understand that. Caffeine has a temporary fix aspect, but it is horrible for blood sugar and nerves, and the come down and after effects can really be bad for attention. Marijuana is the worst stuff on Earth for attention, for most people. It depends on the person, though. Abusing pot on a daily basis will leave most people in much more of a fog. I know it affects me and a lot of people I know that way. I dedicated a hefty portion of my life to trying to resolve my personal biological issues, and I learned that nutritional matters are very often not the territory of doctors. The advice I gave will most likely have a major effect. A doctor who gives the same advice is a rare organism.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I used a metaphor. Addrall's effects are very much like that of cocaine. Of course adderall isn't literally composed of cocaine. I assumed you would understand that. Caffeine has a temporary fix aspect, but it is horrible for blood sugar and nerves, and the come down and after effects can really be bad for attention. Marijuana is the worst stuff on Earth for attention, for most people. It depends on the person, though. Abusing pot on a daily basis will leave most people in much more of a fog. I know it affects me and a lot of people I know that way. I dedicated a hefty portion of my life to trying to resolve my personal biological issues, and I learned that nutritional matters are very often not the territory of doctors. The advice I gave will most likely have a major effect. A doctor who gives the same advice is a rare organism.

The effects of Adderall have never been linked to cocaine, while Ritalin's have. The fact that you've immediately lumped the two together in your mind tells me a lot.

Like I said, I'm not going to argue about marijuana, it was my opinion.

Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia

The effects of Adderall have never been linked to cocaine, while Ritalin's have. The fact that you've immediately lumped the two together in your mind tells me a lot.

What do you mean by "never been linked?" They are in the same category, which is called "stimulants." Are you saying their effects are not similar? They in fact are. I told you I used a metaphor. Do you know what a metaphor is? Your willingness to be personally insulting over this topic while ignorant about the topic tells me a lot. Here, learn something...

Drugs Similar To Adderall | LIVESTRONG.COM

Perhaps the most infamous drug that shares some similarity to Adderall, cocaine is a powerful stimulant. Although it is not a member of the amphetamine family, cocaine's stimulant effects are similar to those of amphetamines, reports the DEA--although these arise more quickly and do not last as long as those of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine.

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Adderall abuse can have very serious side effects, similar to manic behavior exhibited by meth or cocaine users, including increased heart rate and high blood pressure. Other side effects include:

Reduced desire for food
Insomnia
Abdominal cramping
Dehydration
Depression
Symptoms of anxiety
Dangerous weight loss

Stimulants | NIDA for Teens

http://www.justice.gov/dea/druginfo/...Stimulants.pdf