Thread: The Ruling Elite wants Arab Spring to Fail, Who are they?

Who is 'the ruling elite'? What are they ruling? Not America, presumably, which looks like it may soon take action to defend the Syrian people from their Government.

Originally Posted by Xei

Who is 'the ruling elite'? What are they ruling? Not America, presumably, which looks like it may soon take action to defend the Syrian people from their Government.

Well for one, we can look at the media. Because they are always lying or distorting the truth.

The media is making a circus out of this latest chemical attack. People are so confused and transfixed by the media that they are actually agreeing with the most ludicrous of claims - that the chemical attack was by the hands of the Syrian protestors themselves!

The claim being suggested by some is the protesters went chemical to force American intervention. Do you realize how insane this claim is? That is no different than saying Occupy Oakland tossed tear gas on themselves to frame the cops. Except a million times worse because we are talking about actual unarmed civilians dying.

Even worse is I'm starting to hear people say crap like "assad is a good guy" and america is a bully for even thinking they should go military on him. aldjakjajfaljflafl!! NOO! He is a murderer! He has been murdering his own civilians FOR YEARS for simply being political opposition. This new chemical attack isn't all that new in the grand scheme of murders done in the name of Assad.

People are so convinced that Assad is wiped clean of guilt. This to me is an escapist point of view. If Assad is innocent of these attacks then intervention isn't necessary. Thats the fairy tale people want to hold onto.

Based on his past actions clearly Assad doesn't care to murder off the opposition, be it unarmed protesters. Clearly he knows this kind of chemical attack is off limits for any legit president. Clearly he does not want UN or US intervention. Therefore people have logically concluded that he's completely innocent. As if! Its way to easy for a bad politician to hire someone outside his cabinet/regime to do the dirty work. And even if that hired hand is caught, like magic there's no evidence against Assad!

And if it wasn't Assad, then it was the CIA.

Clearly Americans are terrified of another war. Rightfully so.

But its one thing to be cautious of entering a war under a false flag, its another to turn a blind eye and pretend a murderer isnt a murderer.

Look at how Assad approaches the media, he's victimizing himself! Making America look like a bully. Look at the media, look how every other Syria topic is actually about Obama. Obama this Obama that. Clearly, some one wants to distract you while innocent unarmed civilians are murdered.

I am seeing a different situation develop - the complete opposite scenario than most are expecting. If unarmed civilians are being killed by its own so called government, then intervention of some kind is actually justified according to what the UN stands for. Therefore, intervention on behalf of Syria is actually justified - and has been since at least 2011!!!!

However, if the media frames that this war is UNJUSTIFIED than suddenly Russia has the right to counter attack and world is magically tossed into greater chaos. This is an unholy mess. And no, I am not saying that US strikes will solve anything. But its still a problem if the world collectively does nothing. The greatest thing that we can do for Syria is to publicly admit that Assad that lost his legitimacy as a President. And we dont need to send strikes to send that message.

You realise you're claiming that the White House wants to protect the Syrians and "the media" wants to abandon them? So... you're saying the ruling elite... don't have control of the American government.

Originally Posted by Xei

You realise you're claiming that the White House wants to protect the Syrians and "the media" wants to abandon them? So... you're saying the ruling elite... don't have control of the American government.

That's not what I'm saying. I am making speculation based on a disturbing growing trend, that the media is making a circus out of these events. All these talks are about Assad, Obama blah blah. All of these discussions pull away from the simple horrible truth that a mass number of innocent people were gassed.

If the media rephrases the scenario as "innocent people were gassed, what will the world do?" suddenly people would think of the situation as something different. Something that reminds them of WWII when Jews were gassed. Innocent people who are unable to save themselves. If the media maintained its focus on that then people wouldn't be protesting in the streets against this war. They would be protesting the UN (not the US) to do something, save them.

The media really has that kind of power over diplomacy.

But the media is less focused on what we do know to be true (innocent people were gassed) and would rather focus more on the sketchy details, whether Assad is a bad guy, whether Obama is a capable president, blah blah blah.

Meanwhile, more innocent unarmed people are going to die. It always worries me when I feel the media is trying to focus your attention else where. See this, not that. Feel this, not that.

Am I saying that the media is telling us to abandon the Syria people? No, because as far as the media is concerned America is going to war no matter what.

And all I know is that it is the benefit of the elite that America goes to war, preferably a long, drawn out sketchy war with no clear end in sight.

Perhaps it'd do you some good to actually listen to some of what the media are saying. It is not as simple as "innocent Syrians were gassed by the government". That would be the concerning conduct, if they did what you suggest. It's totally partial. It is not known for sure what happened. The UN investigators haven't weighed in. The Americans haven't provided any physical evidence that it was the Syrian government who perpetrated this. The Russians have made a reasoned argument that the rebels did it. I imagine this isn't true, but I definitely don't know for certain.