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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal View Post
      We are giving the people of Iraq a future of being able to make their own decisions. The Soviets had and supported a system of government where that cannot happen.

      If you were locked up in a cage and I let you out, would I be imposing freedom on you? It is not something you could equate with locking you in a cage. In both cases, I am spreading my philosophy, but one involves freedom and the other involves the opposite.
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      It's not very free to be planting the U.S's choice in easily-manipulated officials is it? You could say that in real life, you're doing everyone a favour by not slaughtering them like cattle in their sleep. It's a pathetic conclusion toward a losing ethical argument.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wolffe View Post
      It's not very free to be planting the U.S's choice in easily-manipulated officials is it? You could say that in real life, you're doing everyone a favour by not slaughtering them like cattle in their sleep. It's a pathetic conclusion toward a losing ethical argument.
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      A system is set up where they can vote for new officials. That is freedom. They didn't have that under the Hussein regime, and they never would have. Hussein got 100% of the votes. Go figure.

      Your last sentence really misses the point. I thought I cleared it up for you. Refraining from wiping out a country is not compassionate by itself. Nobody said it is. Where are you getting that? However, setting up a democracy, putting up with extreme controversy and a disgustingly outrageous lack of gratitude from most of the world, and using precision weapons when we could just turn the place into a black spot on the map in 30 minutes is evidence that we are not terrorists. We are not handling this situation the way the terrorist organizations nobody here ever expresses a problem with would handle it. We are not terrorists. Do I need to explain that to you one more time?
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