Thread: Can't See The Forest

Here in Massachusetts, I have a Red Maple right in my front yard. It's small.

IDK, it sucks. The removal of tree's for logging/ firewood/ energy is really hurting us, and it could be another reason for Global Warming (whether it's real, or not). A lot of Carbon Dioxide isn't being changed into Oxygen through Photosynthesis.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Here in Massachusetts, I have a Red Maple right in my front yard. It's small.

IDK, it sucks. The removal of tree's for logging/ firewood/ energy is really hurting us, and it could be another reason for Global Warming (whether it's real, or not). A lot of Carbon Dioxide isn't being changed into Oxygen through Photosynthesis.
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Hello BLUELINE976,
Thanks for your comment.
That is another good point. Logging
At least a lot of harvested ash trees came from tree farms. Much like the American chestnut and the ash tree they grow at a fairly decent pace, making them a great hardwood to harvest.
Because of things like the emerald ash bore many tree farms will simply not plant them, for it is a sure loss. Which further alienates the ash tree.

In regards to global warming there is a post called, An inconvenient truth. < Like the documentary.
It&#39;s very informative.

I had a chance to go out to the west coast and I was appalled by the logging in Oregon.

Originally Posted by Howetzer

Hello BLUELINE976,
Thanks for your comment.
That is another good point. Logging
At least a lot of harvested ash trees came from tree farms. Much like the American chestnut and the ash tree they grow at a fairly decent pace, making them a great hardwood to harvest.
Because of things like the emerald ash bore many tree farms will simply not plant them, for it is a sure loss. Which further alienates the ash tree.

In regards to global warming there is a post called, An inconvenient truth. < Like the documentary.
It&#39;s very informative.

I had a chance to go out to the west coast and I was appalled by the logging in Oregon.
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I know, I&#39;ve been around these forums, (reading more than posting).

There&#39;s a housing development behind my property, and I wonder what they did with all those tree&#39;s...They&#39;re probably firewood now.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

I know, I&#39;ve been around these forums, (reading more than posting).

There&#39;s a housing development behind my property, and I wonder what they did with all those tree&#39;s...They&#39;re probably firewood now.
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Yaa really.
Did you have a nice view prior to the development?


I am around an urban sprawl.
The developments going up like crazy.
The ones that have been around for sometime have done like you describe, cut the trees down.
For asstetic purposes they leave some trees.
What they don&#39;t realize (or ignore the fact if they do) is that those trees developed in the midst of a forest and adapted that way.
Having the trees stripped from around them, if they get lucky enough to not have severe root damage, they will most likely die in a five year period before they can acclimate to their new environment.

Originally Posted by Howetzer

Yaa really.
Did you have a nice view prior to the development?
I am around an urban sprawl.
The developments going up like crazy.
The ones that have been around for sometime have done like you describe, cut the trees down.
For asstetic purposes they leave some trees.
What they don&#39;t realize (or ignore the fact if they do) is that those trees developed in the midst of a forest and adapted that way.
Having the trees stripped from around them, if they get lucky enough to not have severe root damage, they will most likely die in a five year period before they can acclimate to their new environment.
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It was a great view, medium-sized forest full of tree&#39;s, nice privacy. Now all it is are a bunch of trees with a road going through it, with Colonials going to be built.

Aliens in the eco-system cause imbalance, therefore cause damage. But that is such a complex and hard-to-control issue compared to things like logging. Because logging is much more deliberate and "man-made".

I live in northern Canada and there are forests/bush&#39;s everywhere. So I guess I&#39;m pretty lucky for that. Maybe down the line, the types of trees you&#39;ve mentioned will have their own "habitiats" like endangered species. Unless they haven&#39;t already&#39;ve done that.

An image that comes to mind comes from The Simpsons, where in the future there&#39;s a hologram of a tree in memorium for a real tree. Hopefully that won&#39;t be the case.

habitats for endangered trees? that&#39;ll be the day&#33; It&#39;s hard enough convincing people trees are important becuase they are a habitat for animals let alone telling them they are important in their own right. Were also talking about a society where people cut down trees in their lawn just becuase they didnt like it there and for no other reason...personally I think lawns are just butt ugly without them&#33; I want a whole damn forest on my lawn.

I&#39;m flabergasted when I think about a MERE plant out growing me, and out living me, and out weighing me. And I am even more flabergasted when people think of a tree as the same level as bacteria. . . is evolution no longer in effect?

technically..america does have two tree habitats in their own right. the redwood national state park and el yunque. those are the only two that I can think of where the parks focus is on the trees and not becuase it is a habitat for animals. I&#39;ve never seen a redwood before, but I have visited my family in puerto rico and briefly visited el yunque - it is a PARADISE for tropical trees and plants. When ever I find information on el yunque, be it a tourist pamphlet or some other, it always starts off the same way : that el yunque is home to over 240 species of trees and plants with 26 found no where else. Then maybe the information pamphlets will mention the wildlife..sometimes they dont. I can see why too, if el yunque is advertised as a paradise for exotic animals tourists will be sadly disappointed when all they see are a few lizards and spiders. The island is just to small to hold larger and more visible animals, but its got trees and plants by the millions&#33;

the only other MINI habitat I can think of was a small little pen in my zoo *which is horrid, the zoo should be closed down, I mean we have polar bears out in the texas heat - God bless those poor animals* There is this one cage with no animals in it, just plants. It took a visit or two for me to realize it was a cage for endangered plants - and they were cool plants too. Looked like something a dinosaur would eat&#33; And since they were in a cage, we werent allowed to touch them either&#33;

Originally Posted by juroara

I want a whole damn forest on my lawn. [/b]

lol nice

I don&#39;t want to sound like a tree-hugger but trees are cool. When I was 5 and 6 years old, the daycare i was in took us to an apple orchid near-by often. It was the size of two blocks maybe. The entire area was surrounded by HUGE pine trees (or maybe it was because I was so tiny) and in the inside, there were rows and rows of big crab-apple and "normal" apple trees. There were so many thick branches on the pine trees you could climb up and up until you were almost to top. The apple trees were always filled with apples, except at the bottom because we&#39;d always pick them.

I remember once, me and my friends saw a crab-apple the size of a normal apple, way up near the top of one of the trees. We got the tallest kid to sit on the shoulders of one of the day-care workers but we still couldn&#39;t reach it. So finally my friend picked up a rock and threw it at the apple. The apple came down but in pieces.

I wanted to share that because I just remembered it when i was thinking about this thread.

I here ya juroara. couple of the links I posted are trying to reinstitute some of the trees. As;o some are trying to breed tree to make hybrids that are not effected by whatever is killing them.

Originally Posted by BrotherDown

I don&#39;t want to sound like a tree-hugger but trees are cool. When I was 5 and 6 years old, the daycare i was in took us to an apple orchid near-by often. It was the size of two blocks maybe. The entire area was surrounded by HUGE pine trees (or maybe it was because I was so tiny) and in the inside, there were rows and rows of big crab-apple and "normal" apple trees. There were so many thick branches on the pine trees you could climb up and up until you were almost to top. The apple trees were always filled with apples, except at the bottom because we&#39;d always pick them.

I remember once, me and my friends saw a crab-apple the size of a normal apple, way up near the top of one of the trees. We got the tallest kid to sit on the shoulders of one of the day-care workers but we still couldn&#39;t reach it. So finally my friend picked up a rock and threw it at the apple. The apple came down but in pieces.
I wanted to share that because I just remembered it when i was thinking about this thread.[/b]

Cool story Brother. Tree hugging is cool. It just got somehow stereotyped with hippies. Nothing wrong wit hippies I guess either. They are just not the most productive folk. lol

I just moved in October. I have the biggest ash tree that I have ever scene. My dad and I measured it&#39;s circumference to be 17&#39; in diameter. It is HUGE&#33;
ash bore :&#33;:

shit...I mean circumference.