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      So I was sitting here eating my oatmeal, thinking about peasants in the middle ages, and then I thought "I wonder if apples were a commodity back then. I bet if I went back in time, diced some apples into a slave's mush, he'd get in some pretty deep shit."

      So, the question I have for you is this; If you could go back to one or more moments in the past anywhere in the world, what would you bring from the future/do to totally f*&k things up? (What are the policies on swearing, anyhow?)


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      I would bring aids.

      lol nah.

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      I would go back and be a pirate and find buried treasure. :yumdumdoodledum:

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      Does the fact that there are no time travellers prove that time travel will never be invented? Or does it mean that they are all just really careful?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      Does the fact that there are no time travellers prove that time travel will never be invented? Or does it mean that they are all just really careful?
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      That's absolutely genius. I love you.
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      Gee thanks.

      A thought very derivative of movies I've watched and books I've read. Could wonder the same thing about space aliens. Where are they all?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      Gee thanks.

      A thought very derivative of movies I've watched and books I've read. Could wonder the same thing about space aliens. Where are they all?
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      Yep. The chance that aliens would pop up all of a sudden after not showing up for millions and millions of years, but they would all of a sudden now that we invented bad TV shows with aliens in them, is small.

      Point being: Or the other lifeforms on other worlds aren't intelligent (unlikely, seeing the billions and billions of stars, with even more planets), Or Aliens don't care for us, that might be the case since to aliens I think we would look as special as we see hedgehogs, Or, 3rd option: Traveling the huge HUGE distances between solar systems in a lifetime is impossible.
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      Or they, like us don't have the technology yet.
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      The only way it could conceivably happen is if the aliens built a giant spaceship/planet, so that many generations could live and die on it, and finally get to us. Or else they would have to be really REALLY long-lived.

      On the timetravel thing... I would hack into the primitive bank computers that they had about a decade or so ago and direct lots of money into a savings account for me now ... pretty clever huh?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sprout View Post
      Or they, like us don't have the technology yet.
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      I am sorry, but that is so incredibly unlikely I really wonder why you even said that. The chance that an alien race would be just 1000 years or so behind us seems very unlikely. Life has been on this planet for several hundred million years. It would be really ironically if aliens would show up because they had the technology all of a sudden Just at the same age when we knew how large the universe really is, and we understand evolution and how aliens might look like.

      Point being: If there are intelligent life forms in the universe, and seen the HUGE numbers of planets, there is, one of them is way more advanced then ours.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      I am sorry, but that is so incredibly unlikely I really wonder why you even said that. The chance that an alien race would be just 1000 years or so behind us seems very unlikely. Life has been on this planet for several hundred million years. It would be really ironically if aliens would show up because they had the technology all of a sudden Just at the same age when we knew how large the universe really is, and we understand evolution and how aliens might look like.

      Point being: If there are intelligent life forms in the universe, and seen the HUGE numbers of planets, there is, one of them is way more advanced then ours.
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      Not what I was saying at all, my friend. It's possible that no one's got the technology. Think about how lucky we had to be to get a planet with conditions just right to allow the evolution of complicated organisms, let alone super sentients such as ourselves. I don't care how big the universe is, that's not happened too many times. It's just not probable. The conditions are so hard to create. But, I do acknowledge that it is possible. Factor in the bountiful evidence of multiple global extinctions throughout our earth's history, I wonder that any sentient race could survive long enough to develop that kind of advanced technology assuming they had to start with nothing, like us. I dunno, I just can't see aliens being any different mentally from us. What do I know, though?
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      Is this topic still about the past? If I could go back I would take a laptop back to the Victorain era, show them my industrial revolution machine.

      But back to being off top, I believe that there is intelligent life out on some other planet, I mean saying we're the only intelligent planet out of the whole of space seems ignorant to me, and if what I've said is true, then theres most likely more developed beings out there as well.
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      Quote Originally Posted by NeAvO View Post
      and if what I&#39;ve said is true, then theres most likely more developed beings out there as well.
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      Why?



      I think it would be fun to go back back to right before that whole christ thing, with modern medicines and maybe a light show and get people to worship you, then take off and see which religion is more popular, christianity our yours all the way to 2007.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sprout View Post
      Not what I was saying at all, my friend. It&#39;s possible that no one&#39;s got the technology. Think about how lucky we had to be to get a planet with conditions just right to allow the evolution of complicated organisms, let alone super sentients such as ourselves. I don&#39;t care how big the universe is, that&#39;s not happened too many times. It&#39;s just not probable. The conditions are so hard to create. But, I do acknowledge that it is possible. Factor in the bountiful evidence of multiple global extinctions throughout our earth&#39;s history, I wonder that any sentient race could survive long enough to develop that kind of advanced technology assuming they had to start with nothing, like us. I dunno, I just can&#39;t see aliens being any different mentally from us. What do I know, though?
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      Do you even know how sickly much stars and planets there are in the universe? Like that new hubble-picture: A patch of black, the space you would perceive as black and empty with the naked eye, that little part hold a few dozen galaxies&#33; Without shitting you, I think there are more then 100.000.000.000.000.000 stars in the universe. Maybe WAY more. If they all have a few planets, at least one billion of them has to have the right conditions for life. And maybe on just one in a billion would have intelligent life. If that is the case, the chance is just 1 in 10 we are the furthest technically. In the universe, a head start of a million years for a race isn&#39;t that much. In a million years, if we don&#39;t blow ourselves up, I think we might have found out between-stars space travel, if it is possible.

      The universe is just to freaking large.
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      If there were life forms on the two planets closer to the sun than us
      the chances are they are more developed
      using the excess amount of energy form the sun would ahve allowed them to use solar power to fuel forms of technology only dreamed about here =)
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      hmmmm....so becuase humans developed a desire to create and manipulate their environment intelligent aliens have also? I dont understand the idea that just becuase a being is intelligent it creates machines and even as a desire to explore space.

      even if there are intelligent aliens they have developed in entirely different ways, and their goals and desires might have nothing to do with exploring space to begin with. I mean, the tribes of africa are older than any modern country, and yet do you think they care if there is life on mars?

      star trek and star wars just shows how HUMAN we portray aliens

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      hmmmm....so becuase humans developed a desire to create and manipulate their environment intelligent aliens have also? I dont understand the idea that just becuase a being is intelligent it creates machines and even as a desire to explore space.[/b]
      Good point. What we call &#39;intelligent&#39; is just what WE find &#39;intelligent&#39;. Like how human being constantly under-rate animals. I think al ot of animals are more intelligent then us.. just not in &#39;our&#39; way. Intelligence is relative.

      However&#33; The only creatures I see going into space and beyond are creatures with a society, or at least a form of technology that surpasses their individual. A sole, individual human being, focussed on reproducing and shit, has No Use At ALL for a spaceship.

      even if there are intelligent aliens they have developed in entirely different ways, and their goals and desires might have nothing to do with exploring space to begin with. I mean, the tribes of africa are older than any modern country, and yet do you think they care if there is life on mars?

      star trek and star wars just shows how HUMAN we portray aliens
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      I think that if several aliens could reach us if they had optimal technology, one of them would already have. So eighter they don&#39;t care, or they can&#39;t reach us. If they are intelligent in their own way, but don&#39;t have society or some other desire that looks like ours, they will not go into space, yes, but they probably also will not have invented cars, or swords, or houses. I see any kind that is intelligent .in a certain way like ours, building a society and such. All other aliens that might be intelligent in another way but don&#39;t have the nature to develop society or some other thing that would explain why the fuck they would travel somewhere for nothing but knowledge, I don&#39;t think they will ever reach us.
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