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      Consciousness Itself Universal Mind's Avatar
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      Neruo, I didn't call anything bogus. This is an issue where I don't have my mind made up because I admittedly don't know enough about it to take a side. I am just pointing out important things to consider, such as the fact that "global cooling" was the big panic of the 1970's and the list I posted of lots of scientists from major universities who specifically came forward together to say that humans are not causing global warming. I do believe that too many people are acting hysterical about global warming because it is, in many cases, just one more way to have fun dressing up and playing liberal. I really wish those people would take the world more seriously than they do.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Neruo, I didn't call anything bogus. This is an issue where I don't have my mind made up because I admittedly don't know enough about it to take a side. I am just pointing out important things to consider, such as the fact that "global cooling" was the big panic of the 1970's and the list I posted of lots of scientists from major universities who specifically came forward together to say that humans are not causing global warming. I do believe that too many people are acting hysterical about global warming because it is, in many cases, just one more way to have fun dressing up and playing liberal. I really wish those people would take the world more seriously than they do.
      What really, REALLY annoys me, is this. You don't believe in global warming, not because you looked at the facts, or not because you just have that feeling, you don't believe in global warming because someone told you it is a strictly liberal thing, and oh my, you can't but hate those silly hippies. (at least you certainly bring it forward like that).

      Global warming has Nothing to do with liberals, liberals talk more about it.

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      It doesn't really change anything. Lets look at 3 cases:

      A) We are fucking up the environment with pollution, and meanwhile we somewhat contribute to global warming, something that is certainly going to screw us in the ass with climate changes that will cause a lot of death and problems (especially to shit-poor Africa, some of ociania and as one of the few western countries: the Netherlands).

      B) We are fucking up the environment with pollution, and meanwhile we completely, 100% caused global warming, something that is certainly going to screw us in the ass with climate changes that will cause a lot of death and problems (especially to shit-poor Africa, some of ociania and as one of the few western countries: the Netherlands).

      C) We are fucking up the environment with pollution, and meanwhile, completely, 100% unrelated, though natural (extremely-long term) fluxuations there is this thing called global warming, some thing is certainly going to screw us in the ass with climate changes that will cause a lot of death and problems (especially to shit-poor Africa, some of ociania and as one of the few western countries: the Netherlands ).

      I think it is A. You say you do to. You however, like sadly enough the Bush administration and such act like it is D.

      D) Pollution? Nahhh. Nothing wrong with what we are doing now, so we keep on doing it.

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      Anyhow.

      Doesn't really matter what you think. The only thing I hope is that pollution -and Climate change- will be dangerous to the economy before it is extremely dangerous to the world, because that is the Only way people will get their head out of their ass. Mone-y Mone-y Mone-y..

      Quite.

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      Besides that.

      What do you think of these claims I heard about certain oil/coal/stufflikethat companies that pay scientists to oppose global warming? It wouldn't be something surprising, or New for that matter.
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      Neruo, I think you need to read my post again. I have done a lot of looking at both sides, and I still don't know enough to make up my mind. There are experts and more experts on both sides. What I said about dressing up and playing liberal is that too many people are in it for that. I never said that all people who believe in global warming are doing that. I don't believe in global warming, but I also don't believe in the nonexistence of global warming. I am undecided. If I acted decided, I would be lying. The fact that it is possible to pollute the air in a city does not prove that we have the ability to substantially pollute the entire atmosphere of Earth.

      The average temperature is always slowly changing, but that has been going on since the very beginning of Earth. That alone definitely does not prove that humans are causing global warming, and if you will see my link about the history of wishy washiness of the left regarding world temperature change, you will see why I am skeptical and why I think too many people are in this world debate without sincerity.
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      Neruo, you forgot point E

      E) We do contribute to global warming but not enough for it to screw us in the ass with climate changes that will cause a lot of death and problems (especially to shit-poor Africa, some of ociania and as one of the few western countries: the Netherlands).

      CO2 is natural. Theres alot more natural CO2 being produced then "man made" CO2...'

      EDIT: And I just thought of another thing, theres been those huge spikes of CO2 over the centuries. No matter if temperature leads CO2 or CO2 leads temperatures... CO2 in the atmosphere increases and decreases naturally. Humans don't have to be part of this equation. Don't flatter yourself.
      Last edited by arby; 06-03-2007 at 01:42 AM.

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