Thread: 9/11 Conspiracy

And why is not agreeing with someone grounds for insulting them? There is no way you can justify it. It is entirely unnecessary, and you'll never convince me otherwise. Defense is one thing, but when someone presents a point, and gets insulted out of the blue, that's not defense, that's entirely offense. People attack others on these forums, for absolutely no reason. There's no getting around this one.

Originally Posted by Rainman

And why is not agreeing with someone grounds for insulting them? There is no way you can justify it. It is entirely unnecessary, and you'll never convince me otherwise. Defense is one thing, but when someone presents a point, and gets insulted out of the blue, that's not defense, that's entirely offense. People attack others on these forums, for absolutely no reason. There's no getting around this one.

We're all big-boys here. I don't think anyone has gotten their feelings hurt.

My sarcasm only surfaces when I feel like people aren't reading or understand what I am saying, something Solskye had admitted to doing. But you're right, that doesn't mean it is going to make a difference.

We're all big-boys here. I don't think anyone has gotten their feelings hurt.

That's not the point. I am only acknowledging that it is unfortunate that people are so simple minded that they are incapable of arguing intelectually and like mature adults. So instead many people throw insults into the argument that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, and it doesn't contribute in any way.

Please understand that I am by no means singling you out. If you feel like I was, sorry. I'm merely pointing out that all of these insulting comments people continuously make are completely pointless, and actually counterproductive. But let's not hijack the topic of this thread, no pun intended :p

9/11 was carried out by fanatical Islamo-fascist terrorists because we interfered with their ignorant violence directed toward all "infidels", which includes other Muslims and Jews. They believe our attempt to create stability by establishing the boundaries of Israel was a dirct intervention of their conquest to exterminate the Jews.

Now, the same people think they can break our will by using sissy tactics and killing civilians, and to get us to leave so they can continue their oppressive regimes of the countries they used to rule. In the future, they want oppressive Islamic leadership of the world and the conversion, enslavement, or death of every non-Muslim.

Any person who denies the existence of fanatical Islam or their intentions to kill us using terrorist attacks is absolutely ridiculus.

It would indeed be silly to imply that there are no terrorists. That much is obvious. However, it was not our buisiness to interfere with the ongoings of their pointless violence. America thinks it's god and we can just step in whenever the fuck we want. Ridiculous. We brought this on ourselves, largely. Notice how no one ever fucks with countries like Australia? It's cause Australia doesn't stick their nose in things that have nothing to do with them.

America has been the protector of the world for the last 60 years. We assumed that position after WW2, because the major European countries let Hitler rise to power and construct his army, breaking god knows how many EU rules for Germany. American politicians feel they must take preliminary action so that never happens again. If you say "well its not going to happen again", think about that for a moment. It will never happen again because of America's might. But, if we become a "peace only" nation, our might and fear factor is gone. The duality is amazing. Our war mongering actions are the same actions that provide security to the world.

So many people hate America. But deep down they know that if America were to just dissapear one day, they would find themselves in a deep pile of shit. Just imagine a world where America's big ass army wasn't there to free Kuwait. Who knows how many other countries would just take other countries if they weren't afraid of retalliation from us.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Now, the same people think they can break our will by using sissy tactics and killing civilians, and to get us to leave so they can continue their oppressive regimes of the countries they used to rule.

I find it funny in a dark humor kind of way that you say that. You know, terrorists aren't the only ones killing civilians. Some american soldiers in Iraq are only worsening the situation by many degrees! Take a look at this video, and this one about how "air support" works on the battlefield (warning, graphic content). Is that how you are supposed to protect and defend other countries? Is that how you provide security to the world? I would actually say that's actually how you piss off the rest of the world...

Originally Posted by tyrantt23

I find it funny in a dark humor kind of way that you say that. You know, terrorists aren't the only ones killing civilians. Some american soldiers in Iraq are only worsening the situation by many degrees! Take a look at this video (warning, graphic content). Is that how you are supposed to protect and defend other countries? Is that how you provide security to the world? I would actually say that's actually how you piss off the rest of the world...

27% of the civilian deaths in Iraq are attributed to Coalition forces. Get your facts straight.

You know dude, just because there are isolated incidents of soldiers doing terrible things doesn't mean our entire mission is misled. These are soldiers not politicians, and our politicians are the one's who make the decisions to go into countries. What random soldiers do there shouldn't be a reflection of our entire country.

By the way, the only body I see in that video has a gun laying to the right of it, and you can't even tell what they are shooting at. There's no way the people in the cars were being shot at, because they would be dead. No rounds hit the car or the ground around it. The marines also comment about sniper rounds hitting their location.