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      hmm but i dont think we are that responsible really. Co2 is still a very tiny percentage, and it naturally rises anyway, its earths cycle.

      So now we going to enter the "hot" age for a few thousand years, then the ice will creep back and we will have another ice age. We might be speeding up this process but its going to happen anyway, the reason the ice caps are melting is that the they are whats left of the last ice age, so yes its time for them to melt away.

      When theres to much C02 forest fires will be rarer and more plants will grow(faster,bigger). They will producse more oxygen. When there is too much oxygen, there will be more forest fires, and more active animals( whose death will release co2, carbon cycle). So this has been happening for millions if not billions of years. I think we just have to face it's going to happen and start thinking of ways to adapt, rather then trying to stop something which is impossible to stop.
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      Quote Originally Posted by joey11223 View Post
      I think we just have to face it's going to happen and start thinking of ways to adapt, rather then trying to stop something which is impossible to stop.
      You seem sure that changing it is impossible and that adapting to it is possible. Considering what's at stake, don't you think it might be worthwhile to consider that the opposite may in fact be true? Especially since most scientists seem to think this is the case?
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      Quote Originally Posted by skysaw View Post
      You seem sure that changing it is impossible and that adapting to it is possible. Considering what's at stake, don't you think it might be worthwhile to consider that the opposite may in fact be true? Especially since most scientists seem to think this is the case?
      Ive heard that most qualified scientists think it is inevitable. Unfortunately, they have no plan of action, and therefore their opinions are considered worthless.

      People LOVE drama. Nothing is more dramatic than the end of the world. Any person who can come up with the most destructive prediction of our actions, and can back it up with a theory (bogus or not) will get on the news. Just look what happened with Al Gore. Qualified geologists have said Al Gore's findings are from loose studies and 100 year old data.

      Does anybody trust the temperature findings from 1906? How can you find an accurate mean-temprature for earth with data from that time period?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      Qualified geologists have said Al Gore's findings are from loose studies and 100 year old data.
      Source please?

      Perhaps you heard the data begins at 100 years ago? The mean global temperature is a matter of meteorological record beginning around 1880, when people thought to start recording these things. Earlier temperatures are calculated based on geology, but there's no point in even going that route after 1880, so what exactly woud they have been talking about?

      For the record, here are the mean global temperatures from 1880 to 2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempera...ord_since_1880
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      I cant trust that data. A lot of those records are before globalization. Are you saying that they have completely accurate readings, within 1.8 C, from every corner of the globe? If not, the average temp could easily be skewed.

      Has anybody questioned wether our sun is just getting hotter?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      I cant trust that data. A lot of those records are before globalization. Are you saying that they have completely accurate readings, within 1.8 C, from every corner of the globe? If not, the average temp could easily be skewed.

      Has anybody questioned wether our sun is just getting hotter?
      Older instuments can be pretty acurate. There are also other ways to find the temperture from over 100 years ago. The info is accurate. Global warming is definately real.
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      Real? Yes. Imminate destruction of the planet and the complete anhiliation of all carbon based life forms caused by my Chevy Tahoe? Probably not.

      The simple fact that the earth was once covered by lava and then by ice is proof enough to me that our climate shifts. It also proves to me that there isnt a damn thing we can do about it.......except misplace blame on the Republicans.

      If it werent for global warming, we would still be in the ice age. Think about that.

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