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      Ya i know there is hypocracy in that statemanet that i copied and pasted. I was just tyring to get a petition sighned.

      Israel has been treated like the "bad guy" unjustly alot.

      Though several arab countries have established "normal releations" there is still alot of dislike there....

      I cant understand for the life of me why Hamas sends Qassam rockets into israel even though they are bloddily un accurate and same goes with hezbollah and Kayusha.

      I think in palestine there should be a rule that no policial party should have an armed wing so what happend between fatah and hamas in gaza doenst hapeen again.

      I think the most important issue right now is Israel and palestine one ie pre 1967 borders.

      There is a famous saying that everyone cares about palestine but not the palestinians.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dragonoverlord View Post
      Ya i know there is hypocracy in that statemanet that i copied and pasted. I was just tyring to get a petition sighned.

      Israel has been treated like the "bad guy" unjustly alot.

      Though several arab countries have established "normal releations" there is still alot of dislike there....

      I cant understand for the life of me why Hamas sends Qassam rockets into israel even though they are bloddily un accurate and same goes with hezbollah and Kayusha.

      I think in palestine there should be a rule that no policial party should have an armed wing so what happend between fatah and hamas in gaza doenst hapeen again.

      I think the most important issue right now is Israel and palestine one ie pre 1967 borders.

      There is a famous saying that everyone cares about palestine but not the palestinians.
      No, I definitely think that here, in this topic, the famous saying so far is everybody cares about palestinians, but not the Israelis.

      Yes Israel has been trated like the bad guy a lot. A LOT.

      Next point: Though several Arab countries have established "normal relations" there is still a lot of dislike... No kidding! Of course there is still a lot of dislike!

      "I cant understand for the life of me why Hamas sends Qassam rockets into israel even though they are bloddily un accurate and same goes with hezbollah and Kayusha."

      Look, I don't think you understand. Hamas are TERRORISTS. They send rockets into the general direction of a town in Israel and the rockets hit someone. They don't care who exactly it is they kill. Same with Hizbollah (TERRORISTS), etc. They get most of their weapons from Israel's friendly neighbours.


      "I think in palestine there should be a rule that no policial party should have an armed wing so what happend between fatah and hamas in gaza doenst hapeen again."

      I'm really, really trying not to be nasty here. This is not sarcasm. That is never going to happen. Hamas aren't nice kiddies. They are TERRORISTS. They are bad, bad people who KILL innocent Israeli men, women and children without discrimination because they are opposed to the state of Israel. They do not accept negotiation or diplomacy but just KILL people, use their own children as bloody shaheeds to blow themselves up in Israel. This should give you some sort of idea what they're like! Look at what Half/Dreaming said, the video about Mickey Mouse/Suicide Bombs. It should give you some idea what these people are like. They send their own children to do murder for them (this is why Israel have your condemmed aparthied wall) and brainwash them on TV that all Jews and Israeli's are evil. Please, watch the videos.

      These people kill innocent people and all the while tell themselves that it is god's work. Wake up! Try to understand even a tiny little bit about what's happening there before talking about it or promoting a petition about it.
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      I'm really, really trying not to be nasty here. This is not sarcasm. That is never going to happen. Hamas aren't nice kiddies. They are TERRORISTS. They are bad, bad people who KILL innocent Israeli men, women and children without discrimination because they are opposed to the state of Israel. They do not accept negotiation or diplomacy but just KILL people
      So what do you propose be done with them?
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      Quote Originally Posted by dragonoverlord View Post
      So what do you propose be done with them?
      People who don't have a clue about them should wisen up, first of all. Ignarance is a huge barrier to any progress and everything you see eggs it on. Seeing as they are a terrorist organisation, they should be dealt as one. I wasn't proposing a solution in my earlier post,
      I just said that the things you said to do weren't plausible at all because Hamas aren't that big on the whole "friends" thing..

      On a side note: Please don't start talking about international law and using it as a point anymore. You clearly know too little about it. You act as if everyone apart from Israel play by the rules, but the people you love so much don't - for instance every time there are efforts for peace with any of Israel's neighbours, such as a prisoner exchange, Lebanon and Palestine somehow forget about their end of the bargain, ignore all law and UN efforts, and everyone forgets about it.

      All I ask is that you stop seeing things in such black and white terms.

      Had a look at the video's yet?
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      Holy Fucking poop, thank you A humble sinner, you know your stuff, and prevented me from dropping dead right here, from both laughter and anger at DragonOverLord's Ignorance.
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      humble sinner your blatantly biased, as most palestinans are.
      I knew you were Israeli before I even looked at your location.
      Stop being so close minded and research both sides of the argument.
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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      humble sinner your blatantly biased, as most palestinans are.
      I knew you were Israeli before I even looked at your location.
      Stop being so close minded and research both sides of the argument.
      ALL of your statments - no, they weren't statements, they were just assumptions - in that post were completley and utterly false, were blindly made, and had no foundations in fact whatsoever.

      I have researched both sides of the argument, for your informaion. I am most definitley not close minded. I am not biased, and I don't see how i was. How exactly was I biased? Before you call me that please give me an example so I can discuss it in depth.

      Oh by the way, it's kind of an oxymoron to say "oh, narf, narf, I knew you were Israeli because, hmm, I dislike your opinion, so you must be an Israeli, because only an Israeli would think like that."

      That may or may not be your opinion (that's what it sounded like), but it's funny to see that right next to "you are biased".

      Also, who's to say I'm Israeli? I live in Israel. So? I could easily be a Palestinian or I could be Lebanese. Etc. That just goes to show that you are biased against Israelis, because you think only an Israeli could possibly have these (and my) views.
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