We are kicking ASS in Iraq. Over 500,000 insurgents or Iraqi troops have been killed, compared to our 3,600. That is the definition of "winning". Not to mention the fact that we sacked their capital in a few months.

Listen to you!! Its pathetic!!! "Just give up"?

Iraq is not another vietnam. We are fighting and offensive war in Iraq. We were fighting a defensive war in Vietnam. 30,000 US troops died in the first 5 years of real fighting in Vietnam. 3,600 dead in about 5 years in Iraq. Waves of troops attacked US bases in Vietnam. Insurgents spray AKs, hide, then plant bombs in Iraq. The only common ground is that we are killing bad people. Thats all.

The reason the world ignored Hitler when he was rising was because nobody wanted anyone else to die. Look what happened. I am not saying the two situations are the same thing, but ignoring a problem is no solution to a problem.