Yeah, its pretty much the same stuff that was in bowling for columbine. I didn't listen to it end to end but the general gist is whats been shoved down peoples throats that they (unfortunately) believe. |
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Everyone who posts regularly in this forum on current geopolitical issues (the Iraq war, specifically) - regardless of what sides of the fences you stand on - should sit back, shut up and give these gentlemen a moment of your time. |
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Yeah, its pretty much the same stuff that was in bowling for columbine. I didn't listen to it end to end but the general gist is whats been shoved down peoples throats that they (unfortunately) believe. |
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The first speaker speaks much truth, but has a couple misconceptions about America. For one, he said we should fall back to our origional foreign policy of peace and trade with all world nations. If my American history is correct we were spawned out of war and isolationist ideals. Also, his theory that leaving everybody alone will bring peace is questionable. |
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Still can't WILD........
That's more than a misconception, it's a lie. Since its very inception America was formed on blood and terror. Christopher Columbus the Butcher erected policies making it legal for new arrivals to feed living Native American men, women and children to their dogs. And this is the same man America honors (and lies about in the history books) with a holiday. This would be akin to Germany still celebrating Adolph Hitler's birthday. Can you imagine the outcry the world would have in response to that? Yet lo and behold, through American mass deception, the U.S. has painted a violent sadistic man, who according to any text book would be described as a homicidal psychopath, into a worshipable hero and an icon. |
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Those who believe in existence are stupid like cattle. But those who believe in non-existence are even worse.
-The Royal Songs of Saraha, Tibet 12th century.
America was 'attacked' (it wasn't even really an attack, it was more of a statement) mainly because some groups in the middle-east had the feeling America was doing wrong things in their region. |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
Over 3000 dead civilians is a hell of a lot more than a "statement" |
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Last edited by Half/Dreaming; 07-22-2007 at 06:56 PM.
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No, actually it isn't. It's very bad, sure. But an attack almost implies it had some sort of tactical goal or something. I don't think you can just use 'attack' when it comes to politics. The word has just been used because it's a strong word. But the dead people are part of the statement. An attack is more of an act of war. I don't think bin laden really though he would ever totally cripple America's infrastructure and such. |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
ARMS DEALERS, are the richest bunch in the country right now. they have a bussiness to run, they have government influences to keep wars going so they sell their arms |
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You're talking to an atheist, my friend. However, it is pretty much proven that some biblical events happened. Im not saying Moses existed or he parted the Red Sea. But the Jews were slaves of the Egyptians, and they did reclaim their land. |
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Last edited by Half/Dreaming; 07-23-2007 at 12:07 AM.
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Your definition of attack is exactly what Al Qaeda claims the 9/11 attacks (not the "9/11 statements") were about. They were, according to them, trying to cripple the U.S. economy and incite a war between the Middle East and the West. They did screw up our stock market and airline travel numbers for a little while, but the big result was that two Islamofascist governments got overthrown. Despite Al Qaeda's claims, I think the 9/11 attacks were really about cave men who were jealous as Hell of the results of capitalism and wanted to lash out against power while getting power for themselves. That's the Al Qaeda leaders I am talking about there. The people who actually committed suicide to kill thousands of innocent people were just brainwashed dumbasses with nothing to live for. If Al Qaeda wants to pull that shit again, we will be glad to take over a few more countries. Idiots. |
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People should make more of an effort to resolve problems with words |
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Ninjas killed my family, need money for kung-fu lessons
I'm from the U.S. and I blame Fergie for our anger. LOL. |
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Why does it seem so hard to wake up now and see who we really are?
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That is another example of judging the future of Iraq by its transition period. It is fallacious to do that. Overthrowing two Islamofascist governments has a lot to do with why we have not been attacked on our soil since 9/11. That caused a lot of hesitation. Even if Al Qaeda wins over the entire Middle East, the Islamofascists do not want us taking over any more countries. You can look at the insurgency to see their reaction to that sort of thing. Taking over another country or two could very well be exactly what will happen if we get attacked here again. They know that. |
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We are kicking ASS in Iraq. Over 500,000 insurgents or Iraqi troops have been killed, compared to our 3,600. That is the definition of "winning". Not to mention the fact that we sacked their capital in a few months. |
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The American death toll is less than 4,000. It was 55,000 in Vietnam, and we left too early. The American death toll in World War II was in the multiple hundreds of thousands. We will do what we have to do. And don't think for a second we can't take Iran and Pakistan (We don't have a beef with Pakistan any way.). Are you joking? We have the power to turn the entire Middle East into a sheet of glass within an hour. We don't want to do that (But Al Qaeda would do that to us without hesitating if they could.), but don't say we can't take little piss ant countries in the Middle East. We do need to possibly take down the government of Iran so they will stop supplying the insurgents. We are really constructively at war with Iran right now too. Our ultimate goal right now is to help Iraq grow as a democracy. That success will not be revealed during the transition phase. It will take a long time. But... The seed of democracy has been planted. A democratic government is in place, and the population has the right to vote and DOES SO in higher percentages that WE do. What does that tell you? It tells you that the will for freedom is very much alive in Iraq along with a democratic government. I hope you are hoping the best for that situation. Are you? |
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