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      Quote Originally Posted by memeticverb View Post
      Solsky, thanks for pursuing this story, which is pretty much common knowledge in academic circles. No wonder its so vigorously denied by the sheeple!

      UM, you havnt responded at all to any Solsky's excellent points, most notably, 1) that no sleeper cells have been found or convicted of terrorism within the U.S., and 2) that Al-queda was in fact created by the CIA. On top of that there are direct money laundering links from officials in the U.S. govt to Al-queda.

      Proof? It exists, otherwise I wouldnt even bother making a post or even thinking about it. (I have to know something is verifiable before I waste time entertaining its possibility) The proof has been provided by dozens of FBI whistleblowers.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGAiyJ_l2a8

      Most conveniently ignored is Sibel Edmonds, who uncovered documented evidence (proof) that top officials in the FBI were protecting terrorists.
      I'll tell you what. When I'm in Iraq or Afghanistan, I'll ask some POW's if they are Al Qaeda. Oky doky?

      Unfortunately for your argument, there is no proof that Al Qaeda doesn't exist. I can't even fathom the argument!! You know, not everybody in the FBI has classified information at their fingertips. Those people are just speculating.

      Who cares if no sleeper cells have been arrested? They're called "sleeper cells" for a reason. Saying that sleeper cells don't exist soley because they have never been caught is like saying that dark matter doesn't exist, simply because we can't see it. Are sleeper cells actually here? I have no idea, and I hope not.
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      I'll believe it when i hear a reason why the government would do this.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CymekSniper View Post
      I'll believe it when i hear a reason why the government would do this.
      They will tell you it was for oil and money. I mean, if they wanted oil they could have just busted Saddam first for violating the UN resolution of 1993. But, according to their theories Al Qaeda is Muslim-Christian conspiracy in which 1 group gets rich as the other group dies. Both get what they want!!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
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      Unfortunately for your argument, there is no proof that Al Qaeda doesn't exist.
      Haha.

      So lovely to see the same kind of fluked logic coming from cornered people with a bad case of indoctrination. There is no structural difference between saying what you said, and, -to quote Keeper-, "Why do you think there isn't a soul? you can't disprove it!". lol.

      Great logic.

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      Shut up with the indoctrination bullshit. Its really annoying and completely unfounded. I could just as easily say you have been tricked into believing a false reality about Americans because your leaders are bitter that they are not leaders of the supercool, totally awesome, dominant United States of Freedom, protector of the world.

      But, you're right. "There is no proof that Al-Qaeda doesn't exist" is a stupid argument. The notion that Al-Qaeda doesn't exist is absolutely fucking retarded, and doesn't really deserve argument.

      So whatever. How about "Al-Qaeda, fanatical organization, has been around since before the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in the late 1970's". It has been proven.

      Btw, thanks for adding to the conversation, neruo
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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      Shut up with the indoctrination bullshit. Its really annoying and completely unfounded. I could just as easily say you have been tricked into believing a false reality about Americans because your leaders are bitter that they are not leaders of the supercool, totally awesome, dominant United States of Freedom, protector of the world.

      But, you're right. "There is no proof that Al-Qaeda doesn't exist" is a stupid argument. The notion that Al-Qaeda doesn't exist is absolutely fucking retarded, and doesn't really deserve argument.

      So whatever. How about "Al-Qaeda, fanatical organization, has been around since before the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in the late 1970's". It has been proven.

      Btw, thanks for adding to the conversation, neruo
      You're welcome.

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      Still, I just see a great deal of resemblance between people you can't talk out of their faith in god using proper arguments and people you can't talk out of their faith in their country using proper arguments.

      Well, good thing Bush tells ya they caught like 90% of the Al-Quaida commanders. Proof of that? Nahhhhh. He's tellin' it, He no lie-lie!
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      Belief in the existence of Al Qaeda has nothing to do with my patriotism

      Your ignorance about Americans is far worse than than any misconceptions I have about health care and communism. The worst part is you think you know the true America. I don't think I will ever be able to convince you otherwise.

      Take it from an American. You don't know jack.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      Belief in the existence of Al Qaeda has nothing to do with my patriotism

      Your ignorance about Americans is far worse than than any misconceptions I have about health care and communism. The worst part is you think you know the true America. I don't think I will ever be able to convince you otherwise.

      Take it from an American. You don't know jack.
      oh yes, this makes perfect sense. According to your own logic, you can't even complain about north-korea, or some fucked up Iranian stone-unbelievers culture, because you don't live there yourself. You just don't know the true North-Korea/Iran. Yeah. Great argument.

      Yeah. Or maybe I have a slightly more objective viewpoint. Or I just think differently. If I see a country's leader lying to it's people, at the cost of a bloody war, and the people don't hold the government accountable for it's lies, I see something wrong. If you don't see something wrong with that, it surpasses nationality by far. It doesn't matter weather you are American, Dutch, German, Chinese, went to Oxford, Harvard, University of Tokio, grew up in a coalmine, grew up in the desert, in the city, in tibet, if you don't care about the lies of your government, You are a fucking idiot.

      Are you?
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      I dont know the true North Korea. Very true.

      What lies did George W. tell us? Don't say WMD, because if you have bloodshot eyes and smell like weed, and you don't empty your pockets when your parents tell you, they know you have weed. Or something worse.
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