Thread: What's the dealio with GOP candidate Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by shark!

cnn is left wing? more like fox is really really fucking rightwingredneck, and cnn is rightwing. it only seems left compared to fox

No, CNN gives the most anti-Republican spin possible at every turn, just like NPR. The commentators at Fox are generally right wing, but the reporters are pretty good at not showing bias. Can you give me an example of where Shep Smith has been biased? What about Uma Pemaraju? Can you even name any of the other reporters at Fox?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

No, CNN gives the most anti-Republican spin possible at every turn, just like NPR. The commentators at Fox are generally right wing, but the reporters are pretty good at not showing bias. Can you give me an example of where Shep Smith has been biased? What about Uma Pemaraju? Can you even name any of the other reporters at Fox?

antirepublican spin isn't left wing, its antirepublican. pro-democratic spin isn't left wing, its pro-rightwing.

wait, do you watch and like fox new universal mind?

Antirepublicanism is the worst kind of left wing. They care more about smearing republicans than actually discussing the news. Its ridiculus.

Fox news does the same, but they are so much smarter about it.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Fox news does the same, but they are so much smarter about it.

thats sarcasm right?

Originally Posted by shark!

thats sarcasm right?

No, its not. Fox news commentators are hated by so many because they attack people to their core, and are relentless about it. They don't take as many cheap shots as liberal news stations. Have you ever heard Bill Oriley? The man never lies, and never gets off subject. Sure, he's a dick, but he is not shaky and not hypocritical. Leftist commentators extremely hypocritical and change their opinions to try gain viewers. There's a reason why Fox news is rated #1. They are known for telling the truth, with a right leaning stance, of course. But then you have shows like "Hannity and Colmes", who mix conservatives and liberals all in 1 program. I would love to see a successful show like that on some of the other stations.

Watch a liberal news station. If a republican does something, they just tie him back to Iraq to make him look like a jackass.

LOL...Hurray for the mindless drones of the propaganda machine!! Good to see their tireless efforts weren't completely in vain.

All hail Solskye, smarter-than-me guy. He is so enlightened, and is completely unaffected by what other people say. He has an immunity.

The only people that have that immunity are hermits. Are you a hermit, solskye?

Do you actually think before you type? Or is the fox news probe stuck so far in your head it hurts to NOT be a retard?

YOU KEEP GOING ON ABOUT FOX!!!!!!!! Its so funny to me.

Fox is my life. I watch nothing but Fox News. I eat Fox News cereal. I drink Fox News milk. I have a years worth of Fox News underwear. I have a Fox News tatoo of Bill Oriley's face on my left butt cheek. In lucid dreams I summon Sean Hannity and have him pleasure me. If I don't inject Fox News directly into my bloodsteam daily I will carve Fox News into my arm with a knife.

How's that Conspiracy cereal, Solskye?

No, its not. Fox news commentators are hated by so many because they attack people to their core, and are relentless about it. They don't take as many cheap shots as liberal news stations. Have you ever heard Bill Oriley? The man never lies, and never gets off subject. Sure, he's a dick, but he is not shaky and not hypocritical. Leftist commentators extremely hypocritical and change their opinions to try gain viewers. There's a reason why Fox news is rated #1. They are known for telling the truth, with a right leaning stance, of course. But then you have shows like "Hannity and Colmes", who mix conservatives and liberals all in 1 program. I would love to see a successful show like that on some of the other stations.

now you're just being really sarcastic. If you arn't being sarcastic, I'm pretty sure you're late for a monster truck show or something somewhere..Also until now I never knew anyone had actual respect for bill o'reily

anyways I think its #1 because there are a lot of rednecks, conservatives, white trash etc, and they watch the news too, and fox realizes this and thats why they have shows such as When Animals Attack 12 and Fox News, they want to cash in on it.

Originally Posted by shark!

now you're just being really sarcastic.

Is my addiction a joke to you? Grow up.

Shark, you need to head on down to America. Your misconception about our redneck population is absolutely mindblowing.

I think every Canadian looks like this


You all say words like "buddy" and "eh" and the beginning and end of every sentence.

Your misconception about our redneck population is absolutely mindblowing.

you mean you don't have people that watch fox news and also enjoy monster trucks? I never used the word Every

Originally Posted by shark!

you mean you don't have people that watch fox news and also enjoy monster trucks?

You mean you don't live in igloos?

Your misconception about our redneck population is absolutely mindblowing.

ok im willing to learn, which part of my misconception is mindblowing?

First of all, I need to know your idea of what a redneck is. I'm being completely serious here, so don't give me a joking answer.

an american...


no not a serious answer, but

Your misconception about our redneck population is absolutely mindblowing.

i just meant what misconceptions were so mindblowing?

Hey shark, whats new with maple syrup? I hear there'll quite a harvest this year.

OK I saw your edit.

Our redneck population is so small that it could not make a news station #1.

When I was a kid, I LOVED wrestling. You know, Hogan and Kevin Nash and Sting. I even turned my trampoline into a wrestling ring with ropes and everything. I like watching a big ass truck crush little sedans. I grew up in Georgia, raised by a Georgian and and Floridan. Yet, I don't have a southern accent. I don't live in a trailer. I am not a redneck.

"Rednecks" don't vote. They have no power, and absolutely no influence over our population. In fact, I don't really even notice them. I hate saying "redneck" because it makes them sound like a different species of person. Most of them are decent people, and are not ill informed or retarded. Their religious beliefs are stupid in my opinion, but that doesn't bother me.

America is the most culturaly diverse nation on the planet. Any strange culture just gets canceled out by all the other crazy cultures. And in the end, you get the greatest superpower in history.

I must ask again, what is your idea of a redneck?

Republicans and democrates are both left wing. Which is why they nearly always support the same kind of stuff, except for in cases where they like to bash the other side. Which brings us back to Ron Paul who is actually a conservative republican.

Its probably why everyone always says it doesn't matter who you vote for because you always get the same thing. Which is true, they do always agree on 80-90% of the issues then argue over the remaining 10-20%. You get a left wing democrate or a left wing republican.

Ron Paul is the only person running who actually wants smaller government in any way, what so ever.

Not that is has much to do with this thread but, if you can't see that FOX has a massive right-wing slant, then it's obviously the only thing you watch.
OutFOXed
...and Bill O'Reilly "never lies??" I can't believe anyone can type that with a straight face.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Not that is has much to do with this thread but, if you can't see that FOX has a massive right-wing slant, then it's obviously the only thing you watch.
OutFOXed
...and Bill O'Reilly "never lies??" I can't believe anyone can type that with a straight face.

You must not understand my satire. Its hard to convey over the net. Everyone knows FOX is a joke. Thats why I don't watch it, or any other news channel on a regular basis. BUT, they balance out the extreme liberal bias that has become prominent. Today conservatives are on defence and liberals are on offence. The liberals are ravenous. It will be interesting to see how things change if we get a democratic president. FOX on offence gets nasty.

Just for kicks and gigles, can you show me an instance when Bill Oriley has lied?

Oh ok. I could tell in your "I eat FOX cereal, etc." post, but your entire first post, the one about O'Reilly never lying is Exactly the sort of stuff that many pro-FOXNewsers say. That's, I guess, what was so scary; because even though you were being satirical, there was no exaggeration, at all. But I suppose the best type of satire is the completely believable kind. Haha.

(There's a whole section of that OutFOXed video devoted to O'Reilly, but here is something I found before that vid.)

Krugman vs. O'Reilly
http://www.jimgilliam.com/video/krug...reilly_200.mov

Bill O'Reilly Lying With Rebuttal
http://www.outfoxed.org/oreillylies.php

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Just for kicks and gigles, can you show me an instance when Bill Oriley has lied?

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2671823

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Not that is has much to do with this thread but, if you can't see that FOX has a massive right-wing slant, then it's obviously the only thing you watch.
OutFOXed
...and Bill O'Reilly "never lies??" I can't believe anyone can type that with a straight face.

The most popular of the commentators are right wing. Examples are Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Neil Cavuto. There are also popular liberal commentators, such as Alan Colmes, Geraldo Rivera, and Greta Van Susteren. There are less prominent commentators on both sides. However, like I said, the reporters who report straight news and don't give opinions don't show bias. Shephard Smith, Uma Pemaraju, and Laurie Dew just give the news and don't feel the need to end every segment with, "And by the way, Hillary Clinton masturbates goats," which is the type of behavior the newscasters at CNN and MSNBC engage in regarding Republicans. I watch all of the news networks, and I know that Fox is the least biased. They just seem biased to people who are very used to liberal slants on every single news story.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The most popular of the commentators are right wing. Examples are Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Neil Cavuto. There are also popular liberal commentators, such as Alan Colmes, Geraldo Rivera, and Greta Van Susteren.

Some of the least-liberal "liberals" I've seen on the air, today, IMO. Alan Colmes, for one, is hardly anything more than Hannity's sidekick, and allowed to get a jab in, every now and then, to keep the "illusion" (and a poor one, at that) of "fair and balanced" upheld. Hannity is the star of that show, and Colmes is simply appeasement.
As far as the FOX reporters:
I can agree with you that many of the FOX Reporters do not go off on biased tangents and whatnot. I'm actually quite fond of Uma and Laurie Dhue. They are both very charismatic and seem to be straight shooters, from what I've seen. Unfortunately, their part in the bias is being subjected to what news stories are to be talked about, which is not something that they, themselves, delegate. They simply tell the news that they are given, and are given whatever news the channel's agenda calls for. Often, therein, lies the bias - much more covert, but 'non-existent'? I'd definitely disagree.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

...and don't feel the need to end every segment with, "And by the way, Hillary Clinton masturbates goats," which is the type of behavior the newscasters at CNN and MSNBC engage in regarding Republicans.

Please show as many examples of that as you are willing to post. I'm not going to say I watch ALL the news networks, (which is a bold claim that I don't have the conviction to call you out on) but my TV is constantly on either FOX, CNN or MSNBC. My sole purpose for jumping around is exactly to compare and contrast their styles. I am constantly seeing politicians (in general) getting absolutely reemed by CNN newscasters. No matter the party (but I'm sure you know this), if they have a guest on that they have an issue with, they will take it to them. I'm not going to go so far as to say that there is [i]no[i] bias because I've seen a lot of angst against the Administration (R), and I'm not going to try to excuse it, either. I simply don't see it as the over-bearing, in-your-face bias, that FOX news blatantly shells out, about Democrats...
...At All.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I watch all of the news networks, and I know that Fox is the least biased. They just seem biased to people who are very used to liberal slants on every single news story.

No. You watch "all the news networks" and believe that FOX is the least biased - which is your right. Its bias is picked up by more than people who just compare it to an absorbed liberal slant, but also by many of the people who Used To Work There. (as is evidenced in the video I posted, if you watched it. If not, I hope you find the time to. I was kinda disappointed how, in the 9/11 thread, after I posted the link to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, you had nothing to say but, after a while, went back to stating how there are "0/6" - or something to that affect - experts that believe that there is something wrong with the official story. Take the time to check out the vid posted above, before just reinforcing your argument with more, suggested, bias.)
But, of course, I know how easy it would be to say, "Oh well, that's just a small majority of people.." or "..well, those people are just anti-conservative or Bush-haters" and dismiss it all, to continue on with one's line of thinking. So we can agree to disagree on that point, because I think there is hardly anything short of a world-wide poll that would be able to convince you of FOX's blatant bias (which is not meant to be an insult, UM - simply my honest opinion) and that, particularly, is not something that I'd like to get into an endless clash of unverifiable opinions over.