Thread: Is the world ready for this?

I may be at risk of sounding chauvinistic in what I am trying to convey.
So I will first point out that I have not a problem in the world of woman being equally capable of the job.
The American Presidency.
It will be particularly difficult to remain unbiased because the most likely candidate is Hillary Rodham Clintion. There are many views that she has that don't follow suite with my own beliefs.
So let's forget about her and try to gauge how the world would react towards a woman president. whether that be Clinton or Paris Hilton for that matter.
Much of the world does not respect woman in such a high profile position. Arguably the most powerful person in the world.
Yes, there are are countries that have woman in high positions, but they are merely figure heads, as other countries know this. The United states president is in large part a figure head too, however no where near that of any other country.
Our country is sooo set on change that they, the people may grasp at anything new. Enough so that it may cloud our judgement
It is at a most precedent of times. What we have are two front runners that have never held a position in the Oval Office.
An African American and a woman.
In the face of racing nations like Iran, North Korea and most obvious Iraq and even Russia positioning for power, will this significant amount of change be so paramount that it will in effect take away our power to negotiate, demand and gain respect from a global aspect?

Sorry -I did not proof read my thoughts as I am multi tasking.
Busy busy busy

Well, as far as negotiation abilities go, I'm not too worried about it being a woman. People that don't respect the idea of women in power usually have the ass-backwards view that women belong in the kitchen and all that leftover cruft from the past. But a guy going into a negotiation with that image will get his balls served to him on a platter by a strong, confident woman, cause they won't know how to handle a situation they aren't used to acknowledging.

Originally Posted by Replicon

Well, as far as negotiation abilities go, I'm not too worried about it being a woman. People that don't respect the idea of women in power usually have the ass-backwards view that women belong in the kitchen and all that leftover cruft from the past. But a guy going into a negotiation with that image will get his balls served to him on a platter by a strong, confident woman, cause they won't know how to handle a situation they aren't used to acknowledging.

I am not saying that the right woman could NOT do the job.
But we HAVE to deal on a global scale. That is not going to change and that will not change their view of either an African American or a woman. Ass backwards or not, sadly.

I personally don't think having a woman president would be a problem. She would have to set the bar for all future women, so she probably wouldn't screw up much. The only downside is that the first woman president would proabably be inactive, and too afraid to make decisions. This has nothing to do with her being a woman, but that a woman getting a bad image would ruin any chances of another female president.

America's enemies may know this, and would make their moves during this period. Terrorists would absolutely hate seeing a woman in control of their countries, and I have to ask, would the first woman president start a war if she needed to?

Any woman who is ruthless enough in politics to get to that position is going to be just as competent as a male president. The first step of elelcting one is the biggest problem for a woman.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

I personally don't think having a woman president would be a problem. She would have to set the bar for all future women, so she probably wouldn't screw up much. The only downside is that the first woman president would proabably be inactive, and too afraid to make decisions. This has nothing to do with her being a woman, but that a woman getting a bad image would ruin any chances of another female president.

America's enemies may know this, and would make their moves during this period. Terrorists would absolutely hate seeing a woman in control of their countries, and I have to ask, would the first woman president start a war if she needed to?

Any woman who is ruthless enough in politics to get to that position is going to be just as competent as a male president. The first step of elelcting one is the biggest problem for a woman.

That is a very good perspective and more points to ponder.
me thinks

Originally Posted by Howie

That is a very good perspective and more points to ponder.
me thinks

Is that sarcasm? The tomato is throwing me off.

All we hear is people bashing bush all the time, and really. We all know he sucks. So whats the big deal? Countries that get free money from us couldn't care less about who the president is, as long as they keep the money flowing. People who hate, well hate us regardless of who is leading.

Seriously look at your list. I think Iran is far more worried about us bombing them into the dust, than if the president is male or female. Heck they would probably support a female president if she didn't also threaten to wipe their country off the map.

We basicly control iraq and don't care about their opinion anyway, so no big loss there. Really we don't care about most countries opinion, we just do whatever we want anyway. We threaten them with our massive over blown military, not the leadership of our president.

Originally Posted by Alric

All we hear is people bashing bush all the time, and really. We all know he sucks. So whats the big deal? Countries that get free money from us couldn't care less about who the president is, as long as they keep the money flowing. People who hate, well hate us regardless of who is leading.

Seriously look at your list. I think Iran is far more worried about us bombing them into the dust, than if the president is male or female. Heck they would probably support a female president if she didn't also threaten to wipe their country off the map.

We basicly control iraq and don't care about their opinion anyway, so no big loss there. Really we don't care about most countries opinion, we just do whatever we want anyway. We threaten them with our massive over blown military, not the leadership of our president.

Dude, I'm not going to turn this into another terrorist debate, but have you seen how those people treat women? Women in power goes against everything they have ever known. Fighting, and losing, a battle with a woman-led army is going to make them so much more fanatical.

Women are often beat to death under fanatical Islamic law for showing skin. They will probably beef up their hate and killing of Americans just for electing a woman. At least in my opinion.

I don't care. Maybe it will draw more terrorists out of the woodwork so we can kill them.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Is that sarcasm? The tomato is throwing me off.

No sarcasm.
I was just pondering over the other ideas it brought to mind.

I wish the world was as black and white as Alric paints it. While he may be correct in the fact that what he says does go on, I am confident that
our foreign policies, national security and international affairs are much more complicated.

I - for one - think that a female President would be devastating for the US at the present time. Now, so I don't get reamed by the female members: I think a woman could do the job just fine. But this isn't about "doing the job". This is about how the world will view and relate to the US if a woman were to gain the title of President of the United States of America.

Firstly, and most importantly, the countries we are at greatest odds with (you know, the ones who want us dead) are of a culture that regards woman very lowly. They don't even allow their women to show their faces. They have a social system that encourages the oppression and degradation of women. They have a view that it's OK -advisable even - to beat your wife because you don't like the way she does things. To them, women are to be completely submissive and their opinions and feels are to be ignored and considered un-important. And that's only scratching the surface of the evils of Sharia law.

What we need now is some one who they will at least take seriously enough to give us a chance. Sure, a woman would be a big slap in their face but, that's not the way to go about it: not right here - not right now.

So, how can we ever hope to be taken seriously at all by our enemies when we are headed by some one they have so little respect for? We'd be the laughing stock of the world, and that's not something we need to be encouraging any more these days.

No offense intended to women but, I am seriously against a woman becoming US president for the first time in these days and times. And I damn sure don't want that cowardly, liberal Hillary Clinton. She's got the spine of a jellyfish and the resolve of France. She's bent on giving up and throwing in the towel. She believes that we can appease our enemies that want us dead by "leaving them alone". Sorry, Hilliary, we weren't "bothering them" when they started all this sh!t in the first place. So what makes you think that showing passive weakness is going to change that?

Nope, not good at all.

EDIT: Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies

What would happen if we dipped seeker in brown paint, gave him a sex change then forced her to run for president?

Would the world be ready for that?

what happens when the brown paint drys and starts chiping?

Originally Posted by freefire

what happens when the brown paint drys and starts chiping?

Micheal Jackson

Originally Posted by freefire

what happens when the brown paint drys and starts chiping?

More paint!

It's an excellent question, and I'm 100% sure our answer will emerge as either "black" or "female" president in '08 (Dude, it's either Hilary or Obama. There is no possible way the majority will be voting Republican next year)
In my opnion, gender creates more of a difference than race.
And what I think is that people are ready for a HUGE difference...
So I'd have to go with the "Female" choice...

But I think Obama will beat her - I dunno, it's just that it feels like he as a lot more potential than her...

I just hope that the countries mindset of indefinite change does not cloud their judgement.