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      Peopel this Topic will most probably soon be deleted. It seems the current new staff of mods and admins have agreed to shut down all drug-related topics. If my freedom of discussing wonderfull, otherwordly, responsible and respectable experiences is being taken away from me I don't feel very welcome here at all.

      I'm gunna leave these forums soon.
      SO much for discussing the intrueging insights into other worlds as a result of ingesting psychedelics.
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      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      Hmm, oh well. Drugs aren't very important anyway, its like saying that we should discuss t.v. on a regular basis hehe.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Peopel this Topic will most probably soon be deleted. It seems the current new staff of mods and admins have agreed to shut down all drug-related topics. If my freedom of discussing wonderfull, otherwordly, responsible and respectable experiences is being taken away from me I don't feel very welcome here at all.

      I'm gunna leave these forums soon.
      SO much for discussing the intrueging insights into other worlds as a result of ingesting psychedelics.
      This is exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about. Your mind is so completely opposite to expanded that without this one single topic to talk about, you can't think of anything at all and therefore must leave. Well I say good riddance to bad rubbish if thats the case.

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      Xaqaria, that was rude and uncalled for.l Ska's posts, I think most members will agree, are extremly interesting and thought -provoking.
      Freedom of speech should be exercised fully on a forum dedicated to something as strange and mystical as lucid dreaming. Shamans are dedicated to pursuing lucidty through the use of physcdelics. Your response is digusting and so is the action of the administators. I suggest a topic in the meta forum section where we can all list ideas for solvng this problem.
      "...You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world..." - Terence McKenna

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      This is exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about. Your mind is so completely opposite to expanded that without this one single topic to talk about, you can't think of anything at all and therefore must leave. Well I say good riddance to bad rubbish if thats the case.
      It's also, primairlily actually, forum-troll people like you, that has mde the once so good atmosphere here ruined and hostile.

      And how is it you feel you are in the position to judge me as " bad rubbish"? You don't even know a damn thing about me.
      How can you say my mind is opposite of expanded? You dont know me?

      People like you turn every potentially usefull discussions into flaming arguments. It's people with an aditude like yours that ruin the good discussion and overall atmosphere of this forum.

      You seem like a very angry, frustrated person. One of those that are convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
      How old are you? I hope you're still young and therefor naieve. It would be an excuse for your rude and mindless behaviour.
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      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      In defense of SKA, I think he's a valuable member of the forum. I'll admit that I'm on the side that discourages wanton drug talk around here. But I also feel that SKA conducts his discussion in a more responsible manner than just about any other member we have. He's not just another reckless drug-talker.

      That said, I'm still somewhat on the fence about exactly where the boundries should be set. But I don't believe that SKA deserves to be talked to that way. Especially since he's probably the most qualified and responsible member to "go there".

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      I don't understand. How is discussing drugs on DV a problem? Why would Mods and Admins close down drug-related topics?

      Adopted Megabenman although he disappeared a while ago.

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      Because they're Asshats
      "...You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world..." - Terence McKenna

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria
      Honestly though, this topic is pretty much pointless. Its people who talk about drugs just for the sake of talking about them that give them a negative connotation in my mind. Its the people that are so driven by substances that its all they can think about, but when it actually comes down to it they don't even come up with anything meaningful on the topic; the best they can do is 'hey guys, wanna talk about drugs again?"
      Hey, thanks for reading the entire thread Xaqaria. It's obvious everyone who's replied in this thread is a substance-driven junky, right? Haha, way to go.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria
      This doesn't even only apply to drug abusers; it goes for the kids who really haven't done anything, but think just mentioning the big D word makes their status rise a notch.
      Something I said:

      Quote Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed
      It's unfortunate you can't weed out the unresponsibles and dependents otherwise recreational drug use would be just that, recreational. Not an excuse to escape problems or be 'accepted' and prove your hardcore. Drugs are not meant to boost your popularity.
      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria
      If you really want my opinion, here it is. Either do them or don't, but don't talk about it. If drugs are supposed to be fun and or enlightening then you should be able to come up with something to actually talk about besides, 'hey aren't drugs cool?'
      Take a look, it's apparent you haven't read a thing. Who really said 'hey aren't drugs cool?' That hasn't even been close to the majority of the conversation. I feel the thread title is somewhat misleading, but the content is quite different for the most part. There's probably been two people in this entire thread who has said "DRUGS R AWSUM".

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria
      and if you don't think they're fun or inspirational then just leave it alone and let others live their lives how they wish
      And what are you doing right now?

      That's all I'll say. No more good can come out of this thread.


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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      Because they're Asshats
      Well actually I was looking for more of a summary of the problems caused by drug related discussion, but your explanation works just as well. :p

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