Between Iraq and a hard place

**wendylove** · 08-01-2007 05:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by43joQLYj8
Bird, Bremmer and fortune a really good program. I hate the news it is so stupid, see most newspapers supported the Iraq war. And basically the only opposite voice is the internet, and two programs the Daily show and this show. Just watch the program, it will explain the Iraq war.

**Alex D** · 08-01-2007 08:23 PM

I love Bremier, Bird and Fortune, but they're hardly to be taken seriously as you seem to be doing here. And the 'opposite voice' as you call it is the most forms of media in the UK, not just BBF.

**Ynot** · 08-01-2007 08:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcYkn9e3OOw

**dragonoverlord** · 08-18-2007 08:34 PM

Bird, Bremmer and fortune a really good program. I hate the news it is so stupid, see most newspapers supported the Iraq war. And basically the only opposite voice is the internet, and two programs the Daily show and this show. Just watch the program, it will explain the Iraq war.

ugh to bad i cant watch right now the sound on my comp is off.

but anyway there are alot of news against the Iraq War but they are quite stupid all theyt alka bout is "the soldiers" with there body armour and tanks and air support.

What about the over 100 000 civilans taht have been killed? they are rarely mentioned huh.

And the USA doesn't even take in a fair amount of refuges from a conflict that is there's to blame.

FOr got sake Sweden takes in more iraqi refugees then the whole of America.

Anyway if you where to watch the movie Zeitgeist on google video (which im sure you have Wendylove) You will get a good picture of the Iraq war and what its for.

Its a very intriguing Film though it has 3 parts and alot of people seem to get tired before the 1st one is over.

for them i guess

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-18-2007 08:38 PM

Roughly 65,000 civilian deaths. 25% of which is caused by US munitions. A huge percentage is crime related. I don't know if you guys realize this, but the "war" is over. We are a police force there now.

Shouldn't the UN be there, ensuring that people get food and saftey? Or is embarassing the United States more valuable?

**Universal Mind** · 08-18-2007 10:06 PM

If you want "opposite voices", watch any of the American network news shows, any 24 hour cable news network other than Fox News, or the government's own station-- PBS. The governmen'ts news station, NPR, is also very against the war in Iraq. It is a big Bush bash festival on all of those stations. It is unbelievable how much they slant the news.

**Oneironaut Zero** · 08-19-2007 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Roughly 65,000 civilian deaths. 25% of which is caused by US munitions.

Where did you get those stats?

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-19-2007 03:30 AM

2 places

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0dfLNa5mqQ0

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ You will see just how many within the last few days were caused by US. It should be about 0.

And I was wrong. I was using the death toll from a year ago. The toll is up to about 70,000.

**Universal Mind** · 08-19-2007 04:16 AM

Now check out these numbers and ask yourself what would have happened over the next few decades and beyond.

http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/hussein.html

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