Thread: Skeptics, watch this and let me know what you think

I think that either that guy is a lone magician like David Copperfield or Doug Henning or the other people involved in that film worked together with him as a trick photography magician team, which I think is the case with Chriss Angel. I have also seen Luke Skywalker use the force to blow up the Death Star on video, so that video is not enough to convince me. That guy could have won a million dollars by demonstrating his abilities under strict lab conditions, and that money has not been won to this day, which speaks libraries of volumes. My skepticism was raised even more at the end when the guy all of a sudden very conveniently claimed that he was forbidden to repeat the stuff for others, which takes away all possibilities of public challenges. If it was a huge taboo for him to ever show his abilities to the public, wouldn't he have known that before the filming started? Why did he do it any way and then suddenly say he can't show his abilities any more? He very conveniently made a video and closed the door on challenges to the video. It smells like a documentary scam to me.

That is really interesting Rainman, thank you for sharing that with us.

You're welcome Jeff.

Universal, actually that's a good point.

hah.

Chris Angel is half bullshit, half liar. I'll explain. Clearly the illusions he does are completely staged/edited. But the mind reading stuff, and anything dealing with that he does is authentic. Asking to think of a number, and he gets it on the first try. Or like when he has someone put a very sharp knife sticking up under one of 5 cups and he slams his hand on all of them but the one with the knife under it.

The illusions are the bullshit, the manner in which he does his mind reading tricks are lies. People believe he's a psychic, when really he's just using psychological tactics.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

My skepticism was raised even more at the end when the guy all of a sudden very conveniently claimed that he was forbidden to repeat the stuff for others, which takes away all possibilities of public challenges. If it was a huge taboo for him to ever show his abilities to the public, wouldn't he have known that before the filming started? Why did he do it any way and then suddenly say he can't show his abilities any more? He very conveniently made a video and closed the door on challenges to the video. It smells like a documentary scam to me.

If you listen to it though he does explain that he was on a 2 year meditaional journey in which he saw a shift in the future by where powers such as these are becoming more obscure and therefore he contacted this guy to remind us of what is possible. And by doing this went too far according to his dead 'master'

I am not saying either way if this is fake or what, I don't know - I see stuff like this and think why would some little dude out there want to try con the world? Or is it the American's going out there trying to make a fake and paying some random to help them?

I don't know I am on the wall with this and would love to see something like this first hand. And as for the electric shocks, could that not be static? I am always shocking people, not on purpose, because for some reason I have a lot of static.

Anyway an interesting video and I enjoyed watching it, look forward to reading more replies.

I agree with Adam. I really don't know what's going on and I'd like to see things like this myself and then decide. But, yeah... Why would he want to con the world?

No, it could not be static. Static is not ht continuos

Originally Posted by Rainman

Chris Angel is half bullshit, half liar. I'll explain.

No explanation needed.

Also, I'd like to note that the million dollar challenge is for people who believe that "money"... or the outer world has more value than their inner world can provide them. Afterall, money is just numbers on pieces of paper which we collectively believe to be of significance as we pour our perceptions and intentions outward as opposed to inward where it belongs.

Why would or must the guy in the video prove himself to anyone, is what you should be asking... A person who knows... knows... and needs not to seek approval in the outside world...

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I That guy could have won a million dollars by demonstrating his abilities under strict lab conditions, and that money has not been won to this day, which speaks libraries of volumes.

I know this is an old post, but I would like to point out a specific clause of the "1 million dollars" that the applicant must have a "media presence" something this obscure man certainly lacks, "powers" aside.

12. This offer is not open to any and all persons. Before being considered as an applicant, the person applying must satisfy two conditions: First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities.

Taken from: http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-application.html

Say what? Isn't that clip from a documentary about him? Or at least one that features him?

Originally Posted by Jonathan

I know this is an old post, but I would like to point out a specific clause of the "1 million dollars" that the applicant must have a "media presence" something this obscure man certainly lacks, "powers" aside.

Then how do we know about him?

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Also, I'd like to note that the million dollar challenge is for people who believe that "money"... or the outer world has more value than their inner world can provide them. Afterall, money is just numbers on pieces of paper which we collectively believe to be of significance as we pour our perceptions and intentions outward as opposed to inward where it belongs.

Why would or must the guy in the video prove himself to anyone, is what you should be asking... A person who knows... knows... and needs not to seek approval in the outside world...

It is an extremely rare person who passes up a golden opportunity to easily make a million dollars. Everybody loves money. Everybody. You can love money and still be even more concerned with inner goals. One does not exclude the other.

Wouldn't he get more 'inner peace' from donating a million dollars to a charity of his choosing?

You're going to have to do better than that.