Thread: Ecstasy on the Rise...What's your take? :D

Check out the ABC documentary HERE

At first, I thought this documentary would've been done with a right-ist slant, but was surprised to see it was actually done from an impartial perspective. Laying out all the myths and facts out clearly, and indisputable. My question is; With all the facts out there on this wonderful drug, WHY is it still considered a class 1 drug by the DEA, up there with cocaine and heroine. I honestly fail to see the need to ban a drug that causes people to enact postitive changes into their life long after they've stopped using it. Not to mention, with all the government propagandized lies surrounding this, and many other drugs, how can anyone take what the government has to say about their anti-drug campaign even the slightest bit seriously?

Perfect example; Had I not taken it, I most likely wouldn't have taken the time to understand the music I now love so much and wouldn't have ever been motivated enough to go out and buy my first set of turntables which has now led me down the route of music production and sound engineering. I don't actively use the drug to the level I used to, since it is nearly impossible to find for a decent price in Japan, but still have good memories and experiences with this drug. Ones that I can recall upon and get chills from by simply listening to a good tune.

Also, please don't bother commenting unless you've watched the documentary, or at the very least, can separate the actual facts from the government propaganda.

I havnt seen the show, but i rolled for my first time last night it was one of the best experiances iv ever felt and been through, if you havnt ever tried it please dont bash it like crazy!

We cant talk about this..... But I voted the first option.

EDIT: I find this strange, because I wathced this video last night.... freaky...

Huh? We can't talk about this? I wasn't aware this was Fight Club...*shrugs*

Considering this documentary was broadcast on primetime television I really don't see why we can't talk about it. Just because certain mods don't want lucid dreamers to be cast in the same light as drug users isn't a valid enough reason to ban talk of drugs outright on the forum. Drug use, just like lucid dreaming is about exploring and pushing the boundries of perception. Whether you participate in drug use or not, to sit there and try and hide or deny it being in the same realm as lucid dreaming is just plain ignorant. Especially, considering dreams are actually the byproduct of a highly powerful psychotropic drug (DMT) being released in the pineal gland during REM sleep. Let's see someone try and argue that. hehe.

If we cant talk about drugs that dont have to do with lucid dreaming, why can we talk about this? If this thread doesnt get deleted like all the other drug ones did, That's bullshit. The other ones were better, and didn't have to do with MDMA... much more dangerous than what we were talking about.

Actually we CAN talk about drugs, and as the mods continue to delete our threads we will continue to replace them until they realize a forum for lucid dreaming is perfectly suitable for drug discussion. Some of us don't want to go to drug forums where we don't know what kind of people we're talking to. Here we can understand going in most likely the drug users are people in it for exploratory purposes. I doubt if icedawg would ever ban drug discussion in all forms, he may limit it which is acceptable but banning it is... for lack of a better word, completely fucktarded.

I haven't done ecstacy, I might do it once, perhaps with someone I'm deeply in love with but I voted that I think the potential harm outweighs the benefits. My mind might change when I try it but it seems dangerous to me at this point and I would just want to use it to bond with someone I already love. Frankly as someone who's done LSD and mushrooms multiple times I'm also very skeptical of the benefits of drugs. It seems like the revelations you come up with are total BS and their truth wears off rapidly after you come down. Ecstacy may be different since it enhances your awareness of life you may be able to notice things you didn't before, just as LSD allows you to see the world from different perspectives than your used to. I don't know, actually LSD did sort of change my life, I guess.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Considering this documentary was broadcast on primetime television I really don't see why we can't talk about it. Just because certain mods don't want lucid dreamers to be cast in the same light as drug users isn't a valid enough reason to ban talk of drugs outright on the forum. Drug use, just like lucid dreaming is about exploring and pushing the boundries of perception. Whether you participate in drug use or not, to sit there and try and hide or deny it being in the same realm as lucid dreaming is just plain ignorant. Especially, considering dreams are actually the byproduct of a highly powerful psychotropic drug (DMT) being released in the pineal gland during REM sleep. Let's see someone try and argue that. hehe.

Good point.

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Never done Ecstasy. Personally, I really don't see why it is mostly used at parties with crappy music. If I would ever do it, I would do it in a peaceful place, with some decent music. Research also show it isn't all that harmful, nor addictive. (That doesn't change the facts that there are idiots that take to much to often.)

I'll watch the docu some other day. DAMN YOU BBC, for making so many good/interesting documentaries.

Originally Posted by Neruo

Good point.

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Never done Ecstasy. Personally, I really don't see why it is mostly used at parties with crappy music. If I would ever do it, I would do it in a peaceful place, with some decent music. Research also show it isn't all that harmful, nor addictive. (That doesn't change the facts that there are idiots that take to much to often.)

I'll watch the docu some other day. DAMN YOU BBC, for making so many good/interesting documentaries.

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Those people listening to the techno n rave shit are gay... Whenever I do it I listen to rock/rap... only with occasional techno to go nuts with. Subwoofers fuckin own when your rolling and techno has a gay ass bassline, its so repetitive and boring. Rap has the best bass and rock has some crazy ass bass.

it's not that addictive but it will leave you wanting more so It can be if you are stupid. and you could be in a peaceful place or a party.. either way its a blast.

Originally Posted by Neruo

Good point.

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Never done Ecstasy. Personally, I really don't see why it is mostly used at parties with crappy music. If I would ever do it, I would do it in a peaceful place, with some decent music. Research also show it isn't all that harmful, nor addictive. (That doesn't change the facts that there are idiots that take to much to often.)

I'll watch the docu some other day. DAMN YOU BBC, for making so many good/interesting documentaries.

Crappy music as in trance/techno? If you listen to it while on methyldioxmethaphetamine(ecstasy) you can feel the sounds, the highs and the lows if you close your eyes you can feel the music envelop your body.. All sorts of music are stimulating, but trance music in general has a different feel that makes you orgasmic while on them.

Their are idiots that eat too much food, people can't be stopped from over-consumption till they solve some inner problems.

The link isn't working anymore. I tried to check it out.

I have, however, been exposed to the ecstasy community (a friend used to sell the shit). I've tried it 4 times, 2 of which it was laced with meth-amphetamine and 1 time it was laced with heroin. The other time I think it might have been strait MDMA, but I'm not sure. You can never be sure.

I disagree with ecstasy use. It has been proven to be neurotoxic, and is very addicting. My friend went through the whole rave thing and ended up in rehab. He loved ecstasy with a passion, and even though he quits he still admits it was and is one of his favorite highs. Personally I don't see it as terribly interesting. It is extremely fun but I don't find it to have any enlightening effects. Most people just do it to party, and then realize that they totally fucked up their brains.

My friend has some fucked up emotional issues because of his ecstasy abuse. I think MDMA is worth experimenting with once or twice, but any more is pushing your chances for brain damage an addiction. To anyone who loves rolling or plans to roll: BE CAREFUL. Check out Erowids MDMA Vault and learn about what your putting into your body, and always remember that most ecstasy pills are cut with all kinds of crap. On night I faced a pill cut with heroin and ate another half, and didn't learn until months later when some one did a pill test for them.

http://erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Check out the ABC documentary HERE

I got into this thread a few months ago to talk about the general topic of ecstasy and drug illegality, but I did not take 43 minutes to watch the video first. However, just then I did. I watched the entire video. I think I am more baffled than ever over the U.S. government's drug policies and, even more than that, the propaganda they use in conjunction with them. There is no doubt that the government made up some off the wall insanity about ecstasy. I suspected it all along, but now I am convinced of it. They got some scientist to make claims so outrageous they would make me fall out of my chair laughing if the situation were not so disturbing. When called out on it, he claimed he accidentally used meth in his study. What??????? The guy refused to be interviewed about it.

I am almost speechless. I can't believe this shit. I have majorly disagreed with the war on drugs my entire life, and I always knew the government exaggerated and showed strange biases with it, but I did not realize just how big many of their whoppers are. This is one of the most outrageous things I have ever come across.

Man, I just watched this. This is like... the worst. This is worse to watch than 2girls1cup. I mean, I can understand why you would take a dump in a cup and share this with your partner only to vomit into each other's mouth, if that's what turns you on. But why would you ban MDMA?

Governments are so fucked up. They seem to attract mostly just incompetent assholes and idiots. All the decent people are out there enjoying life instead of trying to impose their shitty agenda on society. Fuck. Governments need to be way smaller.

The worst is that the United Nations endorse this sort of nonsense, so basically I can't go anywhere in the world to just do whatever the fuck I want and enjoy life. Damn monopolists. The United Nations are a sack of shit. (I'm just kidding)

I just finished watching this and I have to say that it was the best news report I have ever seen. It was so informing, intelligent. I weel properly educated; empowered with knowledge. This is what journalism needs to be like, I weep for the what the media could be.

Drugs like MDMA when used sensibly can help strengthen relationships, this is something I have personal experience of. One night on MDMA with your best mates is worth months spent sober, stoned or pissed.

heard that shit is really bad for you.

I took E before, but I didn't like my trip...I had all the symptoms (sweating, dilated pupils) and I was told to take orange juice with it to enhance the effect, so I did...it wasn't all that great, lol.

weed is better.

Originally Posted by AirRick101

heard that shit is really bad for you.

I took E before, but I didn't like my trip...I had all the symptoms (sweating, dilated pupils) and I was told to take orange juice with it to enhance the effect, so I did...it wasn't all that great, lol.

weed is better.

Then it wasn't E. It was probably peperzine. But yes, weed is better. If I had to choose, I'd choose weed. There are just way to many perks and pros about weed than there are about Ex.

People like these guys don't give a shit about the taste of it, they just drink it fast as possible for the purpose of getting drunk ASAP.

LOL! Than that's their fuckin' fault..

I'm not saying it's completely their fault.. but still. I don't really have any pitty for the assholes who always ruin the party by throwing up or being a douche-bag drunk to everyone, because they drank to much... on purpose.