Thread: "The US Does Not Torture"

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Yeah, I have to ask where you got this information?

Every news source I ever came across. That does not include left wing hate spin web sites, in case anybody is wondering.

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Ok UM now your just lying.

What sources say we got the hijacker identities wrong?

Do you have any videos of the "real" people with those identities on the news going, "Hey, I'm not dead!"? Cool. Please post a bunch of them.

Originally Posted by Mystic7

You ask another futile question. We are not so predictable. Notice that lately?

The question of what we should do is futile? Only because you don't have an answer for it. Your evasiveness is very predictable.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Every news source I ever came across. That does not include left wing hate spin web sites, in case anybody is wondering.

Does that mean you included right wing hate spin web sites?

Ok, so, digging around for the past few minutes, this is what I've gotten so far.

These bring up the possibility of ID theft.
BBC News
LA Times
Islam Online
CNN

This one, though, does say that they used their real names (never saw this one before).

Looks like a bit of a gray area, to me. What news sources did you check?

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Does that mean you included right wing hate spin web sites?

Ok, so, digging around for the past few minutes, this is what I've gotten so far.

These bring up the possibility of ID theft.
BBC News
LA Times
Islam Online
CNN

This one, though, does say that they used their real names (never saw this one before).

Looks like a bit of a gray area, to me. What news sources did you check?

I saw the faces of the hijackers, along with their names, very soon after the 9/11 attacks on several news stations, who have everything to lose by making things up, as illustrated by Dan Rather's career crash. I can't remember if it was the next day, but it was right away.

It looks like there may have been confusion about whether some of the 19 hijackers may have used a stolen identity. Some sources say there is confusion about six, while some say there is confusion about one. It looks like the claim is still a matter of speculation.

Considering the fact that names are very common, there are of course going to be other Saudi citizens with the same names. Google your real name (first and last names together), and you will see that you are far from being alone with that name, unless your parents were completely original. I am too, and I have never met anybody with my first and last name combination. I will be surprised if I ever do, but I have seen on Google that there are many of them in the country.

I began the post with the past knowledge that there was uncertainty on whether or not the hijackers were properly identified, but after finding the final link that I posted, I wasn't sure. I posted them all because I only thought it to be fair that I posted everything, in light of the new information that I found. So I concede that you could be right about their being properly identified. Until I spend some more time on finding some sort of consensus, though, I can't say you're right or wrong, either way.