Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
I still don't agree. Scaring people into thinking they will be tortured for not doing something they can and should control is not torture. And sending terrorists off to countries where torture is legal is not torture committed by us. It is just a situation of giving them to those who will do it, but not ourselves. So torture is not a government policy.
Lol. UM...

Say I was a mob boss, and one of my goons caught you sneaking around my house, trying to get into my safe. He then brings you up to me, bound and gagged, and says "What you want I should do with this guy, boss?" and, without missing a beat, I say "Take him out to the docks and empty a clip in him. Make sure he's never found."

Now, say the conversation was eavesdropped upon, by the Feds. The would-be thief is killed, but I'm caught on tape, giving the order...

What...do you think I'm just going to get off, scott-free? No. I'm going to get a murder charge. Whether you agree or not, shipping people off to be tortured, is a torture policy, no matter what kind of a liability loophole they want to try to cover it up with.