Thread: "The US Does Not Torture"

Of course by this definition the US tortures combatants. I defy you to find me any nation at war that would not torture to find information.

Right now, the US is the bad guy because we started a questionable war and we are a super power. But, when this war ends and another one starts, those nations will be shown to torture too. Torture is a war tactic, and I dont care what nation you are, it happens....it doesnt make it right. I wish they didnt do it. and I am all for trying to get nations to stop it, but how would you go about doing that?

Originally Posted by tkdyo

Right now, the US is the bad guy because we started a questionable war and we are a super power.

Yeah, except we didn't start this war. By the way, have any of you noticed how many countries are actually fighting the Middle East right now? Have any of you noticed just how long they've been in conflict with their neighbors and half of the world? So don't even try to blame the US for the current state of things.

As tkdyo just said, we are in the spotlight because we are such a superpower. But I submit that it's NOT because "we started it", which anyone who is observant will be able to say that we did not start it. We're just tired of being the punching bag for a bunch of ruthless tyrants that happen to not agree with what we stand for.

They don't fight with each other, illegitimate kings and dictators that execute dissidents fight with each other. A war is not the way to get rid of these corrupt rulers, and the US makes a terrible liberator. Everytime we claim to bring peace we have only brought more turmoil. What are you going to do, site WW2 as a counter example? In the dozens upon dozens of countries we have occupied since ww2 we have not brought real democracy to a single one. Realize that and maybe one day we'll be on the same page. Realize all this 1984 new speak doesn't work on everybody, GH, some of us still know the US track record.

We let the attacks happen and then used them as an excuse to put a pipeline through afghanistan and let our companies replace the bombed ones in Iraq so a bunch of money gets funneled to Bush's main campaign contributors.

Yeah and if you say making money is just a coincidence, then how come companies like Halliburton are given no bid contracts? Is it really just a coincidence that Halliburton was one of Bush's main campaign contributors?