Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
What exactly does that extremely biased opinion piece prove?
"That extremely biased opinion piece?" You do realize that those quotes were pulled from 3 different sources, right? Did you read the articles, the first time I posted them?

I cannot prove that the terrorists are not being tortured. I also cannot prove that they are not being dressed up like clowns and sent up in hot air balloons. You are the one making an accusation, so all I can do is question your accusation. I am not even sure the terrorists are being taken to the "black sites". I just gave you the benefit of the doubt on that and argued in hypothetical terms. It looks like the only proof that they are even being taken to those sites is that the media has made claims and there is "an investigation", and that's only if that truth stretching journalist is telling the truth about even that. That is not proof that the terrorists are being taken to the black sites. If they are, it could be because we need cheap interrogation sites to take prisoners as we catch them by the net loads like shrimp. But now I am not even close to being convinced that the terrorists are being taken to those locations in the first place. It looks like an empty accusation at this point.
But if you were looking a little closer, you'd realize that I wasn't trying to "prove" anything, with that last post. I was simply providing evidence. I could have sworn I said that. My reason for doing so was so that you could also provide evidence that the U.S. was not torturing. If you can't provide any evidence that would match the facts that are stated in the above quotes (and there are quite a few there) then the scales of "whether there is reason to believe the U.S. is aiding/supporting/endorsing torture or not" should tip, in any open-mind to the side that proposes that they are.

If you have evidence to the contrary, that rivals the facts presented above, then it is only fair that the scales tip in the opposite direction.

So...do you?