Thread: Why are drugs illegal?

The government always decides to fund propaganized biased studies that always initially find problems with long-term use of the drugs, even if they aren't based in reality at all. So, by the time real studies come out to disprove them they've already long since become 'common knowledge'.

Kind of like the idea that ecstasy eats holes in your brain image that they initially came out with, that was long since refuted as a tainted, biased, and unfounded study. The scientist even had to write a retraction and blamed mislabeling of the drugs because it was found that he used speed (straight amphetamines) instead of MDMA which he was trying to find results of. Although, of course everyone cites his blatantly WRONG study as a reference against MDMA use.


DON'T EVER LISTEN TO THE GOVERNMENT'S LIES!!!

I've heard of a Marijuana study with mice who have cancercells growing inside of them. The deathrate of those mice who had been given Marijuana on a regulair basis was significantly reduced. I believe by almost 50%

Also a misleading "fact" they tell you about weed is it's "addictiveness"
It is psychologically addictive they say. That sounds very negative while the truth is that it is no more "addictice"than sugar, coffee or Tea: Meaning it feels good so you're likely to do it again. It's not like you're gunna go cold turkey if you don't smoke Marijuana. It's not like you're going to go insane without smoking Marijuana regulairly.

It's certainly not like you would spend money on Weed when you're broke and still need to buy a month worth of food. It's certainly not so that Marijuana smokers, when out of money to buy weed, are going to rob and mug people to get some money for Marijuana.

However tell people Marijuana is addictive and they will think just that. Prejudice will take care of the rest of people's judgement.

When I say They I mean the powers that devide and rule us. They who Rastafari call Babylon. They who lead us, astray if they must, to benefit from it individually and selfishly at the expense of the people.

well if we legalized marijuana the united states would be as much of a laughingstock as canada. i dont think most americans want that

My 8th grade science teacher was required to give us this "drug talk" so she said this "No one else is going to tell you this, but the reason Drugs are illegal is because the government can't tax them. They're illegal because Uncle sam doesnt get a dime off o them."

Originally Posted by Mystic7

legal and illegal is a little game for school boys and girls. Find out the rules for yourself. The real rules.

It's about what's right and wrong and what people should be able to do with their own bodies in a free society, not just what people can get away with, meanwhile risking their freedom and property. It's not a game if they confiscate everything you have and lock you up for a long time.

at SS's pic--"plain brain".

Originally Posted by Jdog

well if we legalized marijuana the united states would be as much of a laughingstock as canada. i dont think most americans want that

Explain how we are a laughing stock, because to be honest, your country is in a pitiful state compared to ours right now.

Ha ha, I point in a generally northern direction and laugh all the time, thinking of Canada being up there, with all those Canadians.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Ha ha, I point in a generally northern direction and laugh all the time, thinking of Canada being up there, with all those Canadians.

Yeah, likewise . Our countries are pretty good at joking about each other, but saying that the other one sucks in a serious context without any explanation is just grounds for an ass whopin'...

You Americans shouldn't talk! Us, a laughing stock? What does that make you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIA...eature=related
I rest my case.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

You Americans shouldn't talk! Us, a laughing stock? What does that make you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIA...eature=related
I rest my case.

Oye, compose yourself ! I don't want to get into a flame war tonight...

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Yeah, likewise . Our countries are pretty good at joking about each other, but saying that the other one sucks in a serious context without any explanation is just grounds for an ass whopin'...

Yea, that was a little odd provocative statement. I think he's got a personal problem about it.

I wonder what "most Americans want" as far as the topic is concerned (drug leaglization, not Canada). Not that I think the majority should be able to limit the freedom of the minority, even that were the case.

I'm sure there's an opinion poll somewhere...too late to look for it now.

"It lasted for a million years and for a split-second. But it's over and now it's your turn." -Timothy Leary

Terence McKenna: Reclaim Your Mind
The True Facts About Cannabis
McKenna on Weed
McKenna on Psychedelics
Culture is NOT Your Friend

I'd have no doubt most americans would want to keep drugs illegal. Then again, most americans are sucked in by propaganda so easily it's not even funny.

OVERDOSE ON WEED

"i think we're dead, i REALLY do"

...IDIOTS!

Dearborn Heights? AHAHA these idiots live around my area!

"What's the score in the Red Wings game?"

You can hear the lady on the telephone trying not to laugh

Really, people are stupid. Especially people who don't educate themselves prior to doing something. A quarter ounce -- about 7 grams, split between two people. So an eighth a person, 3.5 grams. Hardly 15,000 grams in 15 minutes at all. Off some strong stuff (dearborn usually has pretty strong stuff but i have no doubt people this retarted got either ripped off or bunk weed), you'd get real high, but really, for an inexperienced user to smoke that much and get that high? That's just causing trouble; this guy was obviously freaking out due to being inexperienced with handling the paranoia that comes with a big intake of weed.

You can't hallucinate off 3.5 grams either. Lol. These people just put themselves in jail for being stupid. Plus you NEVER EVER call the cops. You go to the hospital, and they'll take care of you and usually won't call the cops (unless they feel as if you're a danger to others)

Let's drink water until we explode.

Oh wait, my parents shackle and spoon feed me.

Oh well... i guess they know what's best for me.

They are illegal because they are unsafe for your health. Not to say that alchohol and such isn't good for your health, but marijuanna (and the other drugs you mentioned) more powerfully affects you.

Spoken like someone who fully accepts what they are told by the powers that be... Did you grow up believing Nancy Regan's "Just Say, No!" campaign, too?

It couldn't possibly be illegal because it hinders and countermines the government's influence over the consumeristic and parasitic lifestyles it spoonfeeds you by causing you to question and think for yourself?

I beg you to show me even one accredited study mentioning marijuana as more powerfully affecting you than alcohol. By and large, alcohol causes more traffic fatalities, overall aggression towards others, and long-term health problems than nearly any other illegal drug out there. And, it is undeniably more dangerous than marijuana. Please prove me otherwise. If you can't, I suggest you unplug yourself from the matrix for a bit and start thinking for yourself.

k? thx.

Originally Posted by weelilhazel

They are illegal because they are unsafe for your health. Not to say that alchohol and such isn't good for your health, but marijuanna (and the other drugs you mentioned) more powerfully affects you.

Where did you get that nonsensical information from?

Marijuana and the other drugs mentioned such as Magic Mushrooms, LSD, DMT, Mescaline and Salvia more powerfully affect you? In what way?

Well from experience I can tell Alcohol's effect is much more radical, impairing and intoxicating than Marijuana.
Also Alcohol is the most toxic of all drugs I just mmentioned. The only one so toxic, in fact, that it's the only drug of those I mentioned that has a serious health risk. Also Alcohol is the only of the drugs mentioned that is truely addictive.

a DMT experience makes alcohol look like weak coffee for sure. It is a visionairy drug which can take you deep into dream-realms and sure is an overpowering experience. But still it is harmless. Alcohol is far from Harmless.

When questioned why drugs are illegal, why is it that the inevitable parallel is that of why other things are legal?

Does making the legality of tobacco and alcohol make it any more right for other drugs to be legal, EVEN if you deem them less harmful?

Are they not harmful?

Originally Posted by Howie

When questioned why drugs are illegal, why is it that the inevitable parallel is that of why other things are legal?

Does making the legality of tobacco and alcohol make it any more right for other drugs to be legal, EVEN if you deem them less harmful?

Are they not harmful?

Well I think compairing drugs in terms of Toxicity, Addictive potential and Social problems is a good thing.

Doing so would show you that Marijuana, Mushrooms, Mescaline, Salvia, DMT and LSD have such a low health-risk that they are actually acceptable to legalize. Especially with proper, TRUTHFULL education on these Substances the risk is so low that banning it would cause more problems ( criminality & Violence, dangerious drug impurity) than legalising them ( a very rare case of permanent psychological disturbance by a naïve, mentally instable user gone too far psychologically )

Do I think Alcohol should be banned? No. Do I think Coffee should be banned? No. Allthough both of these substances are significantly more toxic than any of the drugs I mentioned above they still shouldn't be banned IMO.
Alcohol counts 1000nds of yearly victims in any western country, so does Coffee and even Aspirin has it's 1000ns of deaths each year. That can be reduced.

I think with better education and age restriction Alcohol problems, as well as coffee problems and aspirin problems can be reduced significantly. Truthfull education & more enforcement/control (NOT prohibition) would be the solution in my eyes. The same goes for Marijuana, Magic Mushrooms, DMT, LSD, Salvia and Mescaline. These very low risk drugs can also be legalized without much problems if the legalization were accompanied by better, truthfull education and age restrictions.


Here's a Question: If I were to give you a Teabag of Plant Material which will make you feel <-insert desired feeling/mindstate here-> and told you it's less toxic than coffee and non-addictive; Would you strain a Tea out of it and try it?

Originally Posted by SKA

Well I think compairing drugs in terms of Toxicity, Addictive potential and Social problems is a good thing.

Doing so would show you that Marijuana, Mushrooms, Mescaline, Salvia, DMT and LSD have such a low health-risk that they are actually acceptable to legalize. Especially with proper, TRUTHFULL education on these Substances the risk is so low that banning it would cause more problems ( criminality & Violence, dangerious drug impurity) than legalising them ( a very rare case of permanent psychological disturbance by a na&#239;ve, mentally instable user gone too far psychologically )

Do I think Alcohol should be banned? No. Do I think Coffee should be banned? No. Allthough both of these substances are significantly more toxic than any of the drugs I mentioned above they still shouldn't be banned IMO.
Alcohol counts 1000nds of yearly victims in any western country, so does Coffee and even Aspirin has it's 1000ns of deaths each year. That can be reduced.

I think with better education and age restriction Alcohol problems, as well as coffee problems and aspirin problems can be reduced significantly. Truthfull education & more enforcement/control (NOT prohibition) would be the solution in my eyes. The same goes for Marijuana, Magic Mushrooms, DMT, LSD, Salvia and Mescaline. These very low risk drugs can also be legalized without much problems if the legalization were accompanied by better, truthfull education and age restrictions.


Here's a Question: If I were to give you a Teabag of Plant Material which will make you feel <-insert desired feeling/mindstate here-> and told you it's less toxic than coffee and non-addictive; Would you strain a Tea out of it and try it?

I was about to post about the subject, but SKA just pointed everything I have to say, and more. There is this video abotu ecstasy being harmless, but I just can't find it. It was brought up in another thread like this one.

And yes, I would try ecstasy and any other drug that's not harmful (and by not harmful I mean less harmful than alcohol/tobacco), but as long as it's scientifically proven not to be, of course (I'm no fool). And yes I do agree with the age restrictions for those. And I also think they shouldn't be used in public spaces either (but then again, I think the same about tobacco).

Here's a scientifically carried out study of the risk-level of Psilocybin Mushrooms:
http://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/m...ms_health1.pdf

Quite interresting.

Originally Posted by Jdog

well if we legalized marijuana the united states would be as much of a laughingstock as canada. i dont think most americans want that

You are the laughing stock. Lmao.