Salvia divinorum banned in Illinois... Why????

**Universal Mind** · 01-03-2008 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by MrBeelzy

I'd never argue salvia is less intense than LSD, although that is subjective. I'd say it has a greater relative harm potential than LSD. I've done both many times, and only on salvia have I actually lost all conception of reality, and acted in an erratic way, and not out of fear.
Neither is particularly harmful either way, when used properly.

For me, salvia is about the most intense substance out there, but that is because I have not done DMT. It usually makes me see muppets trying to manipulate the fabric of reality in order to destroy reality. That might make it sound really freaky to some people, but it makes me realize that there is no way I would even think of driving a car on it. I don't even think I could find my car while on that stuff. I probably don't really even understand what a car is while on salvia. I lose all sense of up, down, left, right, here, there, forward, and backward. All I can do is just sit there and be still until the trip ends after ten minutes. Very basic knowledge of what that stuff does makes it very safe for virtually anybody. It just creates a crazy ten minute lucid dream.

**LucidFlanders** · 01-03-2008 09:45 AM

Why don't we all get together (all like everyone not banning these things) and throw these people off a bridge and change the law?

Free hallusinations for everyone! the world trips on Salvia, and DMT and the world is sane again. Seriously, ban booze while you're at it, hell ban fatty foods, and actually ban food all together and anything drinkable so we die of thirst and hunger so they can play amung themselves with free everything. This is all because they want us dead and they want tax free ferrarri's, and tons and tons of money, and stuff. It's all about them, they are thinking of their own needs when we all die from their a few thousand year old plan to slowly wipe us out from hunger, and thirst. Who's left to make them work for a living, or tell them it costs this much? Strike now while you can still eat and drink, for that will change in a few thousand years.

**Michael** · 01-03-2008 10:50 AM

Probably because the high potency extracts can cause a more intense trip than LSD. Since LSD is illegal, they thought it would be good to make salvia illegal.... I dunno, that's my guess. I still haven't heard of any injuries or deaths from it, but I don't research salvia much. I hate that shit with a passion. Don't get me wrong though, it should be legal. I just don't enjoy the trips or get anything positive from them + They are usually physically painful for me...

Shrooms, LSD, and DMT FTW!!!

**Idolfan** · 01-03-2008 01:53 PM

I am surprised salvia isn't illegal everywhere. I'm not FOR it being banned but I'm still surprised because it's way weirder than LSD or E or anything if you take it the right way. I never have I'm just going on other people's accounts

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It's still legal in England isn't it? Where does it grow???

**Nightmare** · 01-03-2008 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Idolfan

It's still legal in England isn't it? Where does it grow???

Salvia is indigenous to certain parts of Mexico. That's it. To my knowledge the only way it's been propogated for many years is by cloning. Somehow, it's really hard to pollinate a plant and have it produce seeds.