If you guys want to debate the issue, do it respectfully.
And Neruo, "No" to that picture you posted.
Carry on.
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If you guys want to debate the issue, do it respectfully.
And Neruo, "No" to that picture you posted.
Carry on.
The thing about this thread is... it was never about an argument waiting to be won...
It's about looking at things from a different angle or perspective then you held previously in order to help you better bring the different forms of your true self into focus...
Take it or leave it...
Those individuals looking for opportunities to be offended will be offended whatever one says in response to them.
They get offended and move on to their next offense...
Those looking for opportunities to expand, enjoy, and enlighten will act accordingly...
Those on the upward slant of self seek to unify and bring things together in new ways which hopefully inspire...
Those on the downward slant of self seek to divide, demonize, and destroy...
After all, we always reflect the thoughts we hold.
Clearly those coming from cynical and chaotic perspectives will feel the need to reflect that outwards onto others like someone caught with their pants down for all to see, cringe, gawk at, and turn away.
Even the proverbial police had to tell them to piece together some dignity and pull up their pants.
Is that a model of reality worthy of following suit? Perhaps... Perhaps not...
The ball is always in your court.
If thats something one feels personally proud of enough to put their name and intention behind to post as their belief system or lack-there-of... then so be it...
The term enlighten means exactly that... To fill yourselves with that inner light in order to help a given situation come better into focus...
Never is it about demeaning and demonizing in an attempt to cause one to get lost in certain shadows of self...
Be my guest... choose your camp...
The Unity of Art... or... The Division of the Devil...
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/.../art-death.jpg
This is the creation of the world, that the pain of division is as nothing, and the joy of dissolution all.
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Enterer
Coincidentally... this was just uploaded an hour ago by someone else... :chuckle:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/...48/enterer.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/...148/satori.jpghttp://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/18/662148/shiva.jpg
How is this forum topic different from "Perspective's of Perception", apart from the fancy title?
That's because science is generally linear and deals with paradigms of causality. What is non-linear cannot have a cause and so cannot be comprehended or proven through a linear process or processor.Quote:
Originally Posted by drewmandan
The Universe is simple, it is unified.Quote:
Originally Posted by drewmandan
It Is.
You're just ridiculing your entire religion here. And yes, I would call it a religion, because it's dependence on belief and lack of proper reasoning and evidence fits in well with other religions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
Will you stop posting mystic nonsense, stupid pictures, and start speaking like a coherent human being?!?
And I'm NOT looking for 'opportunities to be offended' - at least not primarily. I'm looking to find any sort of reason or evidence within your religion; to try and understand it. So far, all I see is a reliance on belief, and wishful thinking.
This group of kids indeed made an art of of distilling the most retarded parts of typical religions, such a blind faith, inconstancies and self-righteousnesses, and just went on posting colored google-picture from there.
Some of us are not offended nor interested in arguing a either.
Not all of this is clear to all people, there are questions here ignored. It does not hurt to explain things in different ways or describe a little background on the topic.
This is Extended Discussion, by the way. ;) Some mature explaining is necessary.
I never asked any of you to believe in anything nor did I say I believe it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
Entertaining thoughts is all we ever do...
Relax guys...
No argument to be had here...
There is some mature explaining needed from their end about what exactly they don't understand or dislike about my posts. I explained the background behind my posts pretty clearly and succinctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by really
I ask people to take it or leave it.
They respond by posting pictures of douches?
All they ever made a stink about and critiqued was the method in which I present topics and how they were insulted by my use of fractals and images...
The anger and hatred coming from their perspective as of this minute is without a valid reason.
The world population's average IQ drops by 1 point for every further post posted in this thread after this one.
Citation? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Serkat
It's just it kinda bugs me when I'm looking for an answer to my questions, or looking for someone to explain the basis for your beliefs to me; and I'm just totally ignored, and instead I get a load of cryptic mysticism and pictures. Not a thing I can understand as a response or explanation for your beliefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
That's all.
If you want this thing to be seen as just a crazy religion, then keep ignoring me.
Answer to your questions?
Uh. Look again. You never asked any...
Only blindly criticized from word one...
What you are looking for is what is looking
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/.../Crazy-Eye.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/.../narcissus.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
Fair point. I just assumed that you would help to curb my doubts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
Here's one for you.
Do you have any sort of evidence or reasoning behind these beliefs?
What beliefs?
I never claimed this as anything more than a tool to help pierce through yourself which it seems to have done.
Does a movie need to sell you on the feasibility and physics behind the story before you watch it?
...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
:?
Right... well... great...
So you're saying that this whole synchronicity thing is just a farce; but it's enjoyable to go along with for the hell of it.Quote:
Does a movie need to sell you on the feasibility and physics behind the story before you watch it?
OK. I can live with that.
If you already haven't noticed by now... I'll let you in on a little secret that most fail to realize in their blind justifications and logical juxtapositions of their silly reality bubbles...
All of reality is a farce.
We put on our masks so we can feel at ease with ourselves and the contradictions we create within our dualistic framework of our non-dualistic self...
That's all.
Once you can come to grips with that it's much easier to appreciate what I post.
;)
I totally understand this. Actually, I think there's no difference between reality and dreaming - both are built on perception, and during them we believe that it's real (lucidity aside).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclic13
But this still doesn't explain your religion.
I don't think I'm going to get anywhere, so I'll just leave you in your protective bubble of delusion.
I never said it was a religion.
You're putting words in my mouth.
If having faith in yourself is a religion then that's something most of us are guilty of.
Like us all I'm just enjoying myself in my own way.
The difference between most is, when I post things here I know I'm dreaming...
I'm just leaving different kinds of road signs for the other dream characters to find when they want to go lucid...
Lucid living that is...
"Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens." -Carl Jung
Right on Cyclic! you are a true worker of the light.
If reality is based on perception, and it is the mind that perceives, then what is the natural state of mind, and how do you or I or anyone differ from that in anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick
I'm sorry, I don't really understand the question...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Enterer
You people really have to learn to be more articulate. I mean, to everyone other than you, the above sentence is gibberish. That's why most reasonable people regard all this crap as bullshit, because it doesn't make sense. Of course, you couldn't elaborate in any meaningful way (like by using common sense reasoning or real world analogy) because you would very quickly realize that this, in fact, is bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Enterer
It's pretty clear to me what TheEnterer is getting at. To use terms you might be more familiar with, in science, in order to perform an experiment you must have a control group, yes?
TheEnterer was saying that since it is our perceptions and the mind that create each of our realities, and we don't have a "blank" (control group) version of our mind to determine which of our sociological creations are "delusion" and which of them are "real" we are all essentially always living in delusion.
Many of you overly-hypocritical people like using these open-ended words like; "insanity", "religion", "delusion", "normalcy", "real world", and "common sense" without taking the time to step outside your cultural bubble to see the hypocrisy in assuming your bubble as anything other than exactly that which you preach to hate...
Over four years ago, I unplugged myself from using America ME and downloaded Japan OSX. Which one of the two mindsets is "normal"? Which one is "real"? Which mindset is the control group that we can base all of our criticisms on in looking at those mindsets that seem "foreign", or outside the "norm" to us?
The answer is. We can't say.
Have any of you ever honestly bothered yourselves to step outside your limited cultural mindsets long enough to see the hypocrisy in standing so firmly in them?
I highly doubt it... Otherwise, you'd leave me to my idea of fun.
You see, without ever a control group to base your argumentation on you don't ever have a leg to stand on. You only have your skewed and flawed lens' of your perspective which is limited to your personally gathered experiences, from your point in the world, from the upbringing of your parents, and the societal systems around you.
Basically, all one is ever doing in hating on another person's way of thinking is spitting into the wind without a semblance of a clue.
Example: If this entire post were typed in Romanian, it would look like complete "gibberish" to you. Does that mean it makes it gibberish just because you didn't bother to take the time to step out of your bubble to learn Romanian?
That's a resounding... No.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/...8/romanian.jpg
So, in Japan, true is false, up is down and left is orange?
Logic is constant, no culture or upbringing will change that.